Dunk recently asked for feedback from his members to put in his koptalk blog. With thousands of happy members renewing their subs every year (accourding to Dunk) you would expect a rush of replies, but so far there are only two new feedbacks. One feedback that wont be found on that blog, however, is the feedback Dunk got from one of those who has been a member for many years; Ytse Jam, formerly known as miamired. This is what he had to say: Read the rest of this entry »
DunCon's plans for next year
December 7, 2008 — Koptalk OutsiderI guess we’re due another blog post. The comments section gets too long when it gets too far between posts.
There’s really not much to comment these days, even though it seems Dunk is trying to kick-start his web-empire with a new “free” site and “free” forum. Inside the VIP-forum it’s so quiet that he’s had to try and keep it going by posting more himself. But the fact remains; the activity on the forums is at an all time low, and he hardly gets new members. Existing members are still leaving in numbers, and many others have just stopped posting. Read the rest of this entry »
Discontent Grows At An Emptying KopTalk
September 16, 2007 — Koptalk OutsiderAs many of you know, we bloggers don’t pay Duncan Oldham a penny to monitor his sorry excuse for a site. Instead, we continue to rely on donated accounts from disgruntled KT members. It says something about how many of those there are that we’ve had continuous access now for over a year.
Frequently Told Lies
April 14, 2007 — Koptalk OutsiderA new gem!
I’ve not been around much of late for various reasons, but I’ve kept a brief eye on things. I’ve glanced at Koptalk from time-to-time and also glanced on here. Thanks for all the kind words I’ve had on here and in the emails I’ve actually managed to read. The offers of pints I hope I can take up one day, although I’d have to buy you one back of course!
I’ve not actually done much reading of my email. I’ve popped my head around the door of the gmail account two or three times this week but with something like 600 unread emails it’s a little daunting!
Thanks to everyone who’s helped to keep the blog going in recent weeks and months, most of all of course Rupert who’s done some excellent work and really kept the heat on.
Today I thought I’d have a little nosy at Koptalk. I went to the main site first, with the intention of clicking one of those misleading “members only” headlines so I could have a good nosy at that too.
But something caught my eye first. Dunk’s added an FAQ! FAQ, for those who didn’t know, stands for “Frequently Asked Questions”. In Dunk’s case you just know each FAQ will be answered with a FTL (Frequently Told Lie).
I had to have a read. I had to see if, for once, he’s told the truth. You never know, maybe he’s finally turned over a new leaf. He’s just been to the USA for a month (How did he pay for that? After all, he is unwaged or so he keeps telling us). Perhaps he saw how bad some of those US religious cults look and realised it was time to stop trying to convert people to his own version of a cult. Then again, maybe he picked up some new techniques from those cults.
So what did he say? Read on…
In the summer of 2006 we cleaned up our member’s community and cancelled the memberships of a small group of people. (First sentence, first untruth! Anyone who was a member of Koptalk on the basis of a previous promise of being allowed a lifetime membership, was kicked out. Pay up or piss off was the basic message.) New members were starting to feel intimidated by a small group of members who had been with the site for several years. (But that wasn’t the problem. If you paid you stayed. Plenty of those left behind were and are capable of intimidation, but the truth is that Dunk only wanted paying members on his site. Those who’d paid various amounts for lifetime membership, or had done various deeds in return for honorary membership were dumped. There was also a distinct possibility that Dunk thought he would get rid of us if he got rid of all his free members. He didn’t manage that – I still have access to the site and I’ve not paid a penny to him for many, many years.) It has always been our policy that a member who has been with the site for years is no more important than a member who joins today.(As long as you pay you are important. Sorry, as long as you pay and don’t ask difficult questions you are important.) We like everyone to be equal with no kind of favouritism. As a result of our decision to clean up our community a campaign was launched against KopTalk by those we ejected.(Another re-invention of history. When this blog started, just over a year ago, Dunk had both a free site and a pay site. It was a good few months after this blog was launched before he started his “clean up”. I suppose he had tried a bit of a clean-up early on, but that was done by banning people at random in an angry way because he couldn’t work out who we were. Time after time he thought he’d worked out who we were, only to find us posting away on here as ever. I started this blog, and was never banned from Koptalk. I started it to have a laugh at Dunk’s made-up-insider-information. He over-reacted and plotted his own downfall. Dunk “cleaned up” his community as a reaction to this blog!) On this page we want to try and answer some of their claims that you may have seen posted around the internet on the websites they set-up to target us. (We’ve set up this web-site, so why “websites” plural? To make it sound worse than it is? This one blog is all there is. For the first couple of weeks of its life the blog was hosted elsewhere, and I’ve experimented with other free hosting services, but this is the only website purely devoted to outing Duncan Oldham, the conman, liar and thief. Other than this site, we’ve been mentioned on just about every UK-based LFC website, INCLUDING THE OFFICIAL SITE! We are linked to from many LFC sites. Very few people disagree with what we are trying to achieve with this blog. We want everyone who is considering using Koptalk to know the truth about it before parting with money. We want everyone who’s already parted with their cash to know what they are helping to support. Most people who know the truth, or at least read this blog with an open mind, leave Koptalk on the spot, or at least make the decision that they’ll leave once they’ve used up their sub. Remember – read it with an open mind. When one of Oldham’s lies is pointed out, no matter how trivial, it’s usually easy enough to see there and then that it’s a lie, or untrue. In this intro to his FAQ he’s told a few lies already. He is incapable of honesty. He has to lie. And when he does, he trips himself up every time).
KOPTALK.COM
Q. Is it true that the owner of KopTalk is a fat Geordie who supports Newcastle?
A. It is true that the owner is fat but he like all of us here are Liverpool through and through. Dunk has supported the Reds since he was a young lad. The first game he attended was the Liverpool Everton FA Cup Final in 1986 when he was 11. He has a Liverbird tattoo on his chunky arm and he was married at the Anfield stadium in 1999. Scouse he is not, he’s a proud Yorkshireman and out-of-towner – maybe some Reds don’t like the fact that he’s an OOT and that he runs a Liverpool website? (Does this answer include any lies? He’s fat, and he’s proud that he’s fat, so that’s not a lie. Liverpool through and through? Well we’ve had it on good authority that he was a Leeds United fan as a child. He turned to Liverpool later. And later still he turned to Newcastle. More on that later. He’s not a Geordie, as many Geordies have been desperate for us to point out. He’s from Scarborough, where he’s well known for his scams, some of which started when he was working part-time in a chippy in the seaside town. And it’s probably because of that notoriety that he had to move to Wallsend near Newcastle, along with his mother who is also notorious in the town. The claim that he attended the FA Cup Final in 1986, at the age of 11, actually messes him up on one of his other lies. To justify himself when questioned in late 2005 about why he wore a S*n hat (as in the boycotted newspaper) in 1998 he claimed he wore it because he didn’t know about the boycott. He knew enough about us in 1986 to be able to get tickets for and go to the FA Cup Final. Three years later and that newspaper printed those lies, and that boycott began. He would have been 14 if what he says above is true. Yet he claimed that in 1998 he didn’t know about the boycott! (Even though we’ve shown proof on here that he knew full-well about the boycott in 1998 – because he spoke about it online). He’s a liar and his lies about The S*n are probably his most despicable ones. He buys the S*n (he admitted as much on his own “free” site last summer, before he closed it down. Tattoo on his arm? The only proof we’ve had of that was on his “Video Podcast” some time ago when he dressed with a tea-towel on his head, hiding himself from the camera before his recent bout of bravery. He flashed, very briefly, what looked like a hand-drawn (with marker pen) drawing of a squashed spider to the camera. But not until he’d started to roll up the wrong sleeve! He was married at Anfield in 1999. And again that event resulted later on in him tripping himself up with another lie. Last summer he claimed his real name wasn’t Duncan Oldham! He said it was a name he made up for the internet! But he’d published his wedding menu from Anfield on his site some years ago, which clearly showed his name as Duncan Oldham, getting married to Maria (Hartley). Dunk’s lies always trip him up. Why would he lie about his real name not being Duncan Oldham? He told his trusting customers that Duncan Oldham wasn’t his real name – why? Then there’s the statement on here: “maybe some Reds don’t like the fact that he’s an OOT and that he runs a Liverpool website”. It’s an attempt by Duncan Oldham to try and convince OOTers that this blog is just here to attack an OOTer. But nobody knows whether I’m an OOTer or not! (Well I do, and those who know me do, but I don’t think I’ve ever said where I’m from on here). I’ve got LFC-supporting friends who are scouse, LFC-supporting friends who are from elsewhere in England, or elsewhere in the world. I’m quite strongly minded that LFC should be a club that welcomes fans from any part of the world, scouse or not, English or not, and I’ve had a couple of arguments on other forums about this in the past (not as “Insider” though). I’m not comfortable with some of the hijacking that’s been done on the RTK campaign by some anti-OOTers, because RTK is not an anti-OOT campaign. And I think that point of view is reflected throughout this blog, because one thing Duncan Oldham likes to take advantage of is that any members who live outside of the UK are hard-pressed to take action against him when they’ve been scammed. Most of his fake merchandise is sold to overseas Reds who just can’t easily take action against him. And an OOTer running an LFC website? Not a problem at all, although those websites run from outside Liverpool that I enjoy using don’t actually try and claim that they are run from Liverpool. Duncan Oldham has lied many times about living in Liverpool, about his site being based in Liverpool. Last summer he claimed he had done a deal to buy a house overlooking Melwood, and was using it free-of-charge until the sale went through. He claimed that he was negotiating with Chris Waddle to buy his house overlooking Melwood! That was a lie, and very odd one too.)
Q. I read he has a Newcastle United ticket season?
A. Dunk has been a Liverpool FC season ticket holder for around 10 years. The only connection he has with Newcastle is that he has family (who moved there) and property investments in that region. When KopTalk HQ moved to the north east Dunk bought a couple of season tickets to Newcastle for his son who would have been around 5 at the time. This enabled someone to take the lad to see some footy. Usually Steve was dragged into doing this or Dunk’s daughter but guess who took Robbie when the Reds were playing there? Dunk posted in one of his editorials about taking his lad to see a few games, it was no secret but those with a grudge like to try and make a big deal about it. Robbie is 7 today and he’s a big Red. He loves his football but now he’s a little older he’s happy to travel to Anfield to see the Reds play. His Newcastle ticket won’t be renewed for the 2007-08 season – thank God! (Dunk does have a season ticket for Anfield. In fact he has two. One’s in his (estranged) wife’s name. He renewed them for this season. They are in the Lower Centenary, I have the full details of which row they are in and which seats they are. Without giving too much away, the seats are a number between 190 and 210. The row number is between 3 and 7. If you sit anywhere near that and want to know Dunk’s actual season ticket numbers let me know by email and I’ll send you the details. Because Dunk doesn’t go to league games at Anfield any more. He obviously sells his tickets, like he sold his FA Cup final tickets last season for £1600. He’s a tout basically, because I doubt very much he has sold his season tickets at face value. I feel like publishing the full details of his seat numbers on here, but that might hurt the person he’s touted the tickets to. Perhaps I will forward the details on during the close season, so the tickets will be invalid for next season. Dunk doesn’t go to the game any more, but he makes a profit on his season tickets. That’s what LFC is to Dunk – a money-making machine and nothing more. His Newcastle season tickets were probably bought for similar reasons. Newcastle often sell out their fixtures, so he can no doubt make a bit of a profit on his tickets from time to time. When Liverpool play there, or at least for the past two seasons, Dunk is there along with his son and his daughter. So has he got THREE season tickets at St James’s? His son, who he’s named above, was pictured on Dunk’s site wearing a Newcastle shirt at the start of this season. Maybe he’s as fickle as his father when it comes to choosing his favourite team if he’s already changed his allegiances. And has his son been to Anfield? It seems doubtful, given that Dunk sells his season ticket and either sells (at tout prices) or gives away (in illegal competitions) any cup tickets he gets for Anfield. No renewal on the season ticket for 2007-08? Last summer Dunk claimed he’d had to lend money off his mam to pay for his season ticket for Anfield (the one he doesn’t actually use). If that’s the case, then he’d have surely had to borrow off her to buy the Newcastle one too. The recent spending spree they’ve had (even though they are unwaged) has surely made sure he can’t afford the Newcastle ticket this time around.)
Q. But doesn’t he run other club football sites?
A. KopTalk started as a hobby and grew into a huge site. During the years Dunk was approached many times by companies keen to tap into that success and help them establish other websites. He refused to sell KopTalk in 2000 and even rejected an offer of £1.3million for a 10% stake at the time. Again Dunk has always been open about his connection to such projects and revealed he had provided advice for other projects but wouldn’t be directly involved as KopTalk was his baby. Today Dunk has advised with the creation of half a dozen successful websites of various sporting themes. Not one of these sites is associated to any other football clubs here in England. Several years ago two club sites catering for Spurs and Newcastle fans were created purely to test the water. They were closed, rebranded and relaunched in 2006 but nobody from KopTalk is involved with such projects including Dunk himself. To clarify, Dunk has no inpurt or ownership of any other football sites other than KopTalk (and the forthcoming kopfootball.com) but only because he doesn’t have the time, interest or effort, not because he should keep anyone else happy. (Do a whois lookup on spursarmy.com, upthetoon.com, chavgames.com, caboodlenetwork.com and the other variations such as .co.uk and so on. You’ll find those sites were all registered by Duncan Oldham either in his own name, in Steve’s name or in his schoolgirl daughter’s name. Koptalk got off the ground thanks to the hard work of Dunk’s co-owner at the beginning. He soon left Koptalk. Dunk kept it going with his lies and scams, his broken promises and betrayals. He never rejected an offer of £1.3million for a 10% stake. He did hand over control of the domain name for a much, much smaller amount at one point, but in return for some easy money he spent all of his time promoting another domain he’d set up, an early version of his “insider” site. The victims that time were “Footy Mad”. In fact if you search around on “Footy Mad” you can see many of Dunk’s lies and made-up or stolen stories. And his begging-for-sympathy stories after he’d had to put one of his greyhounds down for not being fast enough. He was the sole person responsible for the Spurs and the Newcastle sites I’ve just mentioned. He even claimed last summer that Spurs Army was going to get back off the ground soon, but first of all he had arranged for Steve to go down to London to interview some people to work on it! So if he’s done nothing more than advise, what the hell is Steve doing interviewing people to take over the running of those sites? The truth is, Dunk created those sites. Early readers of the blog will remember how Dunk had actually copied the template for his Koptalk.com site to use on his SpursArmy.com site, but had made errors in various places so that parts of the page on the Spurs site loaded in Liverpool red, and he even had a blue Liverbird as one of the logos on Spurs site! The site disappeared when FusionBB were tipped off that he’d used one licence for their software on at least three sites. Is Dunk ashamed that he ran sites for fans of other clubs? Why lies about it? And where is the proof that he’s “advised” on other sporting sites? This bit made me laugh out loud “Dunk has no inpurt or ownership of any other football sites other than KopTalk (and the forthcoming kopfootball.com) but only because he doesn’t have the time, interest or effort, not because he should keep anyone else happy.” Dunk – read that answer again and try and clear up your contradictions. I’m not bothered that you run sites for other clubs, or that you used to do so. That’s your choice. What does bother me was when Michael Owen was about to sign for Newcastle and you pretended to be “Barry” from UpTheToon.com and thanked yourself (Dunk) for being so kind as to share information with yourself. Why not be honest? Why not be straight?)
Q. Someone on another LFC forum said Dunk’s a control freak and everyone has to agree with his views?
A. Was this person a former member who had been given a size ten up his rear-end for abusing others on one of our formers? (Who’s this former member that abused others on one of your formers? What’s a former?) Numerous former members have commented on how things are at Koptalk, how threads are deleted and locked on the whim of the fat controller and his dribbling helpers.) We have a strict moderation policy called the AUP (Acceptable Use Policy). (And how we’ve laughed at that Gestapo-style directive in the past. If you’ve got time find it and laugh, it’s hilarious without meaning to be.) This can be found on our support site at http://www.koptalk. info Basically providing you are polite and non abusive to other members and the moderators you’re fine. (And don’t question, no matter how politely, anything that Dunk does or says. Seriously – do so and you’ll be banned). Alternative debates are fine and nobody on the internet likes to get a few biting about LFC topics than Dunk but it is nonsense to suggest that you can only say a certain thing about the club. (Saying things about the club aren’t the problem. Saying things about Koptalk are the problem). If anything KopTalk urges you to be an individual and support the Reds how you want to, not how others want you to. Our forums are moderated every minute of every day by KopTalk staff and Dunk rarely gets involved in the moderation.(That’s because Dunk spends most of his time pretending to be someone else. So you’ll see a comment, sounding exactly like Dunk, but attributed to Steve, Katie, Emma (who never actually joined herself after her true identity was revealed on here), Jordy (who doesn’t exist) or even Dunk’s daughter. Dunk moderates, but much of the time he’s pretending to be somewhere else because he’s in hiding from one person or other). If you are a mature Red and you don’t go around offending others, you have nothing to worry about.(As long as you enjoy innuendo-riddled conversations with 17-year-old girls like Katrina/Katie on this “mature” forum.) People ban themselves on KopTalk. (Dunk’s catchprase, apart from “Blog That!”) We enjoy banter and we like to see people getting stuck into each other about their different club views. But we expect our members to respect each other. From time to time people clash but they usually kiss and make up. If they don’t and they continue with some kind of vendetta against another member, we bin them, end of. (Anyone else hate the phrase “end of”? It usually comes from people who aren’t able to explain there reasons for doing or saying something. It’s a bit like “because it is”.)
Q. KopTalk doesn’t campaign enough for fan issues?
A. This is a tricky one because behind the scenes we assist many fans with various LFC issues. But we won’t force any of our members or casual visitors to do a certain thing. We believe it’s about the choice of the individual whether they do or don’t do a certain thing. How someone chooses to support the club is not our business. We want our members and casual visitors to enjoy what free time they have online with us and not to get pressurised into doing something just because in the eyes of someone else, they’re not worthy enough unless they do. We will support fan issues if those behind certain campaigns run certain things by us. There are plenty of outlets on the net were people can get involved with various campaigns and we’re happy to point you in the right directions.
(Ha ha! Behind the scenes you assist many fans with various LFC issues? What like? You’re a liar Dunk, you clearly do no such thing. You’ve no contacts at the club, you’ve no clout with any supporters groups (most know who you are and condemn you completely) – what can you do? What about the Michael Shields campaign? Did you ever pay up, in full, the money you claimed you were going to pay? Remember, the amount you kept boasting about. You did it to justify the fact that you took a domain name related to Michael and pointed it to a part of your own site that included those lucrative pop-up ads you’re so fond of. You bought a domain name and created a special section on your forum to point it at, to make money from Michael Shields. Only when you got some stick for it did you PLEDGE some money. Did you pay it all up? As for campaigns, you jumped quite heavily onto the RTK bandwagon. So another contradiction isn’t it? You suddenly support RTK when they produce such a memorable six minutes as they did at the Arsenal FA Cup game. So why publicise that, yet disregard the S*n boycott? In fact your next question covers the S*n boycott.
Q. Is it true that KopTalk supports The Sun newspaper?
A. This is a silly one. That’s how low some rivals have to swoop to try and earn brownie points. To use the innocent lives of 96 Reds to try and target us disgusts us but doesn’t surprise us. As stated above if people want to buy The Sun newspaper then that’s their right. We wouldn’t encourage them to do so for many reasons but we have no right to tell people what they will or won’t do. We’d prefer it if they didn’t buy the rag and we’d encourage them to boycott it but that’s as far as it goes.
(Silly? Despicable more like. Brownie Points? Disgust actually. The S*n is boycotted because they tried to turn the blame for Hillsborough back onto the Liverpool supporters. Worse than that, they made claims that our supports pissed on the dead bodies of those fans who lost their lives. They made claims they we pickpocketed from them. Do some research if you’ve never seen what the S*n wrote. They’ve never apologised, apart from a half-baked attempt after Wayne Rooney had sold his soul to them. The editor at the time, Kelvin MacKenzie admits he knew that they were lies that he allowed to be printed, but he really does not care. What The S*n and Kelvin MacKenzie did played a big part in our 96 lost ones not getting the justice they deserved. That’s why that Arsenal game in January started off with six minutes of singing for justice for the 96, and why the Kop held up a mosaic for those six minutes asking for “The Truth”. Not everyone knows about the boycott of The S*n, and it’s not unusual to see a naive forum member on one LFC forum or other quote from that rag. Usually the poster is told about the boycott (sometimes politely) and the poster apologises. Later on a moderator removes the offending quotes. Nobody questions the boycott. Nobody feels it needs to be debated, perhaps with the exception of a debate over what it would take for the boycott to be lifted. Everyone agrees though – the S*n is boycotted and it will stay boycotted until the families say otherwise.
Except on Koptalk. On Koptalk last summer I saw an exchange where Dunk’s moderators attacked someone who pointed out that quotes from the S*n weren’t welcome. Then Dunk came along and locked the thread, claiming his readers don’t want to be bothered with serious things like that. As the summer went on Dunk’s true feelings about The S*n became more and more apparent. He told more lies about why he wore a hat promoting The S*n at France ’98, even though he’d known about the boycott at the time he was wearing it. And then I spotted a pattern. Some of his news stories linking Liverpool with players from other clubs didn’t appear anywhere else on News Now. Love it or hate it, News Now have long since stopped including stories from The S*n on their LFC page. So how did Dunk get these stories, some of which included quotes from players or managers? Google News helped me to find the answer. Stick a player’s name and part of his quote onto Google News and you’d find the story’s source. The S*n. Google News don’t actually boycott The S*n, so a search on Google News will include their stories in the results. Often there would only be one result with those quotes. Usually if it appeared anywhere else in Google News other than the S*n it was on some newspaper from overseas many hours later. But Dunk had taken the story and used it as his own on Koptalk. And with Google News a relatively new service, most Reds hadn’t a clue that Dunk had got his story from The S*n. Soon Dunk’s story would be number one on News Now – well it was the only story on there linking us to player “X”. Dunk’s now banned from News Now. For the second and hopefully final time. Dunk tried hard to defend himself over this. He was asked questions by his members. One day he claimed that Liverpool players spoke to The S*n. (The BBC are notorious for taking comments given by a player to a press conference and following them with “told the Sun”.) LFC PLAYERS DO NOT TALK TO THE SUN. Dunk tried to make out this wasn’t true. “Rushian”, well known on many Liverpool websites, pointed out to Dunk that he was wrong to say Reds players spoke to the S*n. Dunk again had a go, claiming Rushian was wrong, “and you know it”. The thread was locked. Then Dunk claimed that Peter Crouch had been speaking to the S*n. And what’s more, Dunk said he had the tape to prove it. And, like any true Liverpool supporter would he claimed he was going to use that tape to end Crouch’s career whenever he felt like it! LFC Fan? Sure.
Shortly afterwards Dunk admitted to buying the S*n. In fact he claimed he had it delivered every day, along with some other papers, but he claimed he bribed or threatened the paper boy to give it to him free of charge. Then he filmed him and Steve burning that day’s edition. And then he said he had to buy another copy so that he could type out the story that he’d been so outraged over.
Using the 96 to have a go at Dunk? Days before the anniversary I think his claims are insensitive to say the least, but Dunk took advantage of that boycott to make himself some money. As for supporting the S*n, well he refused to allow any discussion on the matter on his sites and actually seemed to be trying to persuade his members to soften their stance towards the rag. It’s an ideal paper for him, he hates the fact that he can’t talk openly about something he read in there that morning. The other way he supports it is that he copies directly from the BBC their round-up of that morning’s newspaper football stories. He never removes the references to the S*n, claiming outrageously that he CAN’T remove those references (even though it’s a cut and paste job). By removing any threads that inform his members about the boycott and the reasons for it, then printing quotes from the BBC talking about stories in it, he is effectively encouraging his members to satisfy their curiosity by going out and buying a copy of it. If that sells one extra paper for the S*n, then I consider that to be supporting it. Koptalk supports The S*n. )
Q. Fair enough but what about running ads for The Sun newspaper on KopTalk?
A. KopTalk has never taken a single penny from The Sun for advertising. Our advertising is organised and displayed by advertising agencies with the exception of Blue Square and Amazon. Every month the agencies add new campaigns. None of the agencies we use now or we have used in the past notify you of what ads will be run. If an offending ad is displayed, once notified we can disable the particular ad but only once we are aware. With Google Ads you can block/ban certain websites (advertisements) before they appear so obviously we have banned the website of The Sun newspaper. From time to time offending ads can appear, not just from The Sun but also from other advertisers that are maybe not appropriate. Any LFC site signed up to the same advertising agencies would have the same problem. In the entire history of KopTalk we have had to disable adverts for The Sun newspaper twice. The minute we’re made aware of such ads we disable them for obvious reasons. If anyone out there thinks we’d actually knowingly run ads for The Sun they must either be very naive or very, very stupid.
The last time S*n ads appeared on Koptalk, Duncan Oldham played a game of pretending he didn’t know where they were. It’s well documented on here how he played this game, not taking any action until his members had got pretty irate. At the time there were only three possible sources for ads on his site to appear in such a way. Instead of going into the control panel for each one of those three he played his game. He did it to prove a point, to attract attention. As he admits himself above, he hates being told what to do, and he no doubt had a great thrill to see how he’d upset so many Reds. He made no apology for those ads appearing. He instead had a go at those who’d complained. Liverpool fan?)
Q. Loads of Liverpool sites are free, why isn’t KopTalk?
A. Our site was free for years but when Dunk wanted to scale it down to concentrate on his kids, he wanted to concentrate on a more limited readership base. A membership helps deter rival fans and internet trolls. Rather than have the site plastered in adverts, we chose to generate revenue by way of an optional membership fee. Many fans website accepts donations and give little back, we don’t ask for donations, we offer an optional membership to our website with no advertising, free worldwide LFC alerts by SMS and much more. We also ensure that a member of the KopTalk team is online every minute of every day to ensure the forums are kept safe and sensible for our members. All for less than 9p-a-day! And if you disagree with the option of joining, you don’t join. That way everyone’s happy!
(Dunk wanted to concentrate on his kids? He doesn’t see his kids except at weekends and school holidays, and he’s not seen them for a month if he’s actually been in the US for a month. His wife has custody of them. And she wasn’t in the states with him either, despite his tales that she was. He scrapped his free sites because he couldn’t keep on top of the hundreds of outraged Reds that were trying to spread the news about him. Especially when most of his moderators upped sticks and left in disgust. He scrapped his free site. Then he ditched his members on the paysite who’d paid for a lifetime membership. He figured if he restricted his membership to just those who were paying £30 a year he’d get rid of people wanting to spread the word about him. It didn’t work though, there are still many of his members who are fully aware of his scams and have stopped posting, just waiting for the day before their membership runs out so they can make one last, significant post. If Dunk could find a way of bringing back his free sites with the same levels of hits he used to get he would bring them back – as long as nobody could spread the word about him. That’s why his expensive site (£30 a year more than any other “fan” site) doesn’t have a Private Message facility. That’s why you can’t view a fellow member’s profile. He is frightened to death of his members reading this blog with an open mind, away from his control. The fear of a “suicide post” is the reason he has Smoove logging on overnight and Katrina logged on all day. )
Q. Is it true that Dunk has a disabled cousin and ‘scammed’ tens of thousands of pounds from her through fundraising?
A. If you’re a complete loon, yes! Not satisifed with using Hillsborough to try and discredit the site, our former (banned) members and the sites that choose to rival us, try to claim that Dunk would target a family member and profit from her paralysis. Complete nonsense as usual. At first they said she didn’t exist, then she wasn’t really disabled.. if it wasn’t so sad you’d laugh! Then when she came on the site’s podcast to silence these idiots they said she was an actress. Remember, if you ever see such claims, ask them to report them to the police. It’s one thing targeting Dunk and the site but to stoop so low to target a young Red is another thing.
(This one hit Dunk hard. His cousin, Lauren, genuinely is disabled. She’s very unlucky to say the least. I don’t fully remember the start of Dunk’s campaign to raise funds for her, but it all began with the news she’d been hit with the bad news that she was paralysed. Dunk started to raise money from his members to pay money to her parents to pay their mortgage and so on. People were donating big money, sometimes as standing orders. Later on Dunk started a website for Lauren. It consisted mainly of plugs for Koptalk, but included details of how members could donate to her. Cheques were to be made payable to Dunk’s mum, not Lauren’s mum. Dunk used his own PayPal address for online donations “for Lauren”. He sold footballs that were signed – he claimed falsely – by Liverpool players, “for Lauren”, at over £100 a time. He sold numerous fake shirts for at least £200 a time. He sold cup tickets (including FA Cup final tickets at £1600) “for Lauren”. He collected well over a thousand pounds in one day from Paddy Power, including a £300 donation “For Lauren”. In the early days of the appeal some people donated goods rather than money, so Lauren got a laptop for example. But later on it was always money. Dunk made a big fuss on his site about how he wanted to raise money for a special hand-powered bike for Lauren. The balls and the Cup final tickets alone would have paid for that. Except it never appeared. There was never a word from Lauren thanking everyone for the money. And how it must have added up. Except we never saw how it added up. Dunk’s very public appeal was never publicly accounted for. He never mentioned how much was raised and how it was used. If it was all used legitimately it would have been extremely easy for Dunk to show how it had been used. He didn’t though. I’ve not said Lauren doesn’t exist or that she wasn’t disabled – her plight was reported in the press at the time it happened. I’ve not heard the podcast she is supposed to have appeared on. If it was her, did Dunk get her to explain how she’d used the thousands of pounds she’d received from money collected by Dunk between March and May last year? I doubt she did, but I’m prepared to be corrected. And if I’ve time I’ll go back to the police and chase them up on this. I had to stop my communications with them for personal reasons a couple of months back, but perhaps I’ll have time to go back to it soon. Anyone else with time on their hands should contact North Yorks police and ask them to investigate. It’s what Dunk wants! If Lauren got the money off Dunk and spent it all on booze and fags then that’s her choice and I’d not condemn her for it. Targetting Lauren? No, we’re asking Dunk to prove that he handed over that substantial amount of money to his disabled cousin. And it’s not hard to prove it if he did.)
Q. I read that KopTalk sells dodgy goods?
A. We don’t sell anything. We have tried to run a shop in the past but we really didn’t have much success. We could make a lot of money if we wanted to but we simply don’t have the time as we found out. Out of every 1000 orders maybe 2 or 3 items go missing and a further 2 or 3 get damaged in transit. It just wasn’t worth upsetting a member who has been with us say for 4 years because a picture he wanted turned up smashed. It was either a shop or the site. Because of our visits to Melwood we can obtain signed balls, signed shirts etc but if a player’s in a rush a signature on one shirt could be so much different to that when the same player has time to stretch the shirt and sign it when he’s not under pressure and when half a dozen kids are not trying to get a bit of him. Then you’d get one doubter saying this doesn’t match my shirt from last year and so on. Basically we now just keep things for ourselves or our own competitions.
(Dunk had a shop until we started to shop him. All of a sudden his Champions League Balls and Signed Shirts disappeared. Search the blog for the photos of the ball he sent to an Irish member. Look at the signatures, very very poor fakes. He signed them himself, or got Steve to do it. Steve’s name appeared on the certificate of authenticity, at a time when he was 16, maybe just 15. He refused to offer a refund. One member complained repeatedly that he’d not been sent the promised certificate of authenticity. Dunk said he would only send it out if the member first of all sent the ball back at his own expense, from Ireland, so Dunk could check it! He’s a liar and a conman. And he knows he is. What he did in selling those fake balls is classed as fraud, and the poor signatures have nothing to do with a player being under pressure. Dunk won’t admit to this scam of course, but look at those pictures of that ball and you’ll see he’s got no grounds to deny he’s faked those balls. An LFC Fan? Selling fake goods to “fellow Reds”?)
Q. I also read that once a member has signed up, you can debit their card again without their permission?
A. That’s rubbish. At no time do we ever know your credit or debit card number. If you sign up via PayPal your membership runs for one year. At no time during that year could we ever bill you again. It’s impossible and PayPal can confirm this. At renewal time your sub will autorenew if that is set up on your own PayPal account. There’s much more about this on our support site at http://www.koptalk.info
(It’s not rubbish. When Koptalk take your money by Pay Pal they do it using an option which will take an identical amount out one year later. But 11 months later Koptalk will send you reminder that you need to renew your membership, and ask you to pay there and then by Pay Pal. One month later your auto-renewal also goes out. Koptalk know this happens, but don’t tell you. They just pocket the money. If you try and ask for it back you often have to send numerous “support tickets” in before they will pay up. In fact Pay Pal have started to act directly and just pay the subscribers back. They are starting to get wise to Duncan Oldham. Even members who were banned six months earlier find themselves being billed, and Dunk won’t refund their money. Is that the actions of somebody honest? No, it’s the actions of a conman.)
Q. KopTalk has no official sources?
A. That’s right we have no official sources at all but we do have sources throughout the club at various management levels. We have no official relationship with the club and would never want one. We work for our members, the fans, and are not puppets for the likes of Ian Cotton in the press office. KopTalk is rare in that we refuse to toe-the-line on club matters where as some LFC websites will do what they can to have some kind of relationship. We’re not bothered about receiving a club Christmas card, we report the positive and the negative stuff and that will never change. Past and present contributors to the site includes the likes of Barry Venison, Rob Jones, Tommy Smth MBE, Ian St John, Jan Molby, Peter Thompson, Danny Murphy, Steve McManaman and many, many more. We have numerous relationships throughout the club and are in regular contact with players from the past and the present.
(No, the question should be, “Koptalk have no sources at Anfield, Melwood or the Academy?” Careful wording of that question doesn’t excuse you from answering the real question Dunk. You have no offical access to the club, at least you finally admit that. But you don’t have any unofficial access either. You are lying by saying you have “sources throughout the club”. The club hate you, to be frank, because you’re a parasite who reflects badly on our club’s name. In fact it seems you’ve now admitted that your recent visits to the States were far from being at the invitation of our new owners. Surely if they’d invited you they’d be official contacts? So what does that tell us? Lie after lie after lie. You were in Tom Hicks’ office, for a couple of minutes, which in itself is quite an achievement. But it was only for a couple of minutes, not the hour you’ve claimed. And you were warned off. Your hatred of Ian Cotton is unhealthy. As is your hatred of Chris Bascombe. And in that list of “past and present” contributors, how many of those are actually “present” contributors? And why did they all stop contributing? And not all of them ever did contribute did they? Did the ones who left do so because you wouldn’t pay them what you’d promised you would? Or did they realise what they were unwittingly becoming a part of? And Danny Murphy – you used to claim he was your Anfield Mole and your mate. Then when he left Anfield you didn’t even know it had happened! In fact you tried to make out it wasn’t true if I’m not mistaken! Another LFC website broke the news, thanks to their genuine contacts at the club. And your “mate” didn’t even tell you.
Last summer Dunk also claimed to be having a meeting with Rick Parry which he’d have when he could fit Rick Parry in. Dunk claimed he had something Parry wanted! He later admitted he doesn’t actually meet Rick Parry on a regular basis and in fact had never actually met him. He also went quiet on his previous claims that he was mates with Steven Gerrard!)
Q. Dunk’s writing a book called ‘Anfield Exposed’ but it’s never appeared why is that?
A. Simple. Just a lack of time. Several years ago Dunk announced his intention to write a book about the site. Interested people could place a pre-order deposit of £5 if they wanted to grab a copy when published. The working title was ‘Anfield Exposed’ but a more appropriate name would be given at publication. It’s not about exposing LFC in anyway and there isn’t any kind of negativity towards the club. Why would one of the biggest Reds in the world attack the club he loves? A publication date was never set and it was hoped to be published this season but again, time has been an issue. Also because of the campaign against the site since last year, there are fears that the book could be too revealing about key matters at Anfield. Not only that but since last summer various members of Dunk’s family have been targeted in a not so nice way. People with no connection to the site have been targeted at work simpy because they are related to Dunk. All of this just because one or two saddos cannot accept the fact that KopTalk is a success. The fact that Dunks own kids and family members have been targeted is a concern and whether or not we’ll go ahead with the book we’ll have to wait and see. Anyone who has placed a pre-order deposit several years back can at any time request a refund in full. It’d be a shame not to share this book with so many people but family has to come first.
(So once again, a month from his latest deadline, Dunk finds an excuse not to publish the book that he claimed was already finished last year. He changes this story all the time, even blaming an exploding laptop one time for the delay. The book was due out for the start of this season, then for the end of last year, then for the end of this season. And they are just the moving dates for his book since this blog started. He says “there isn’t any kind of negativity towards the club”! Well have a look back in time to his website promoting his book: The archive of anfieldexposed.con shows him promising all those about to part with the £5 deposit for a book that doesn’t exist that they’ll be able to read about, “The VIP apology from Anfield when a certain individual was trapped by the editor following a planned attack on the site” or “The CCTV footage of one of Anfield’s biggest stars that is locked away in a vault in the city. The media know it exists and offers of £50,000 have so far been rejected!” Not negative towards the club? An LFC fan? And again those claims about his family and kids being “targetted”! Meanwhile over on his cyber-squatted kopfootball domain he pretends his teenage schoolgirl daughter is the figurehead for his awful-looking site on the new stadium! It’s time someone warned the child protection people about Mr Oldham and the way he exploits his kids.)
FINAL WORD
Every day of the week new Reds join our website. We consider them to be members of our family and we will do all we can to make them happy. You can’t keep everyone happy but we try to if they come to us. We will do everything possible to make someone happy. We listen and we care and that’s why every year thousands of our members renew.
(Every day? Not what I’ve heard, far from it. You listen? Well listen to this – answer us some questions with honesty for once. Own up, if you’ve got the guts to.)
The internet is a scary place and for some reason some people want to rival us. We’re no angels but in all the years the site has been online we’ve never had any major problems.
(Dunk is quite obsessed with this “rival” idea. Look at any LFC website and you’ll see complimentary words about other LFC websites. You won’t see a complimentary word about Koptalk though, quite the opposite. And you can’t mention other LFC websites on Koptalk. Dunk is frightened you’ll jump ship. He sees the other sites as rivals, yet all the other sites see each other as part of one big net community.)
Anyone that takes a pop is usually connected to another LFC website or they’ve been booted off either our former free forums or our existing members only forums. Sometimes it’s simply just a Red who has no connection to us but wants to be loyal to the particular site they use. (No Dunk, most people who’ve been banned by you have been banned for mentioning this blog. Nobody gets banned for any other reason other than mentioning this blog or the concerns of this blog. People who take a pop take one because they’ve been double-charged by you and couldn’t get a refund, or got banned for asking where their book was. People who have a pop at you know about you and they speak the truth. Face up to it, the vast majority of Reds who’ve heard of you hate you for what you’ve done to our club and our fans. Your mam must be proud of you.)
At the end of the day there’s a lot of childish nonsense around the web. We’re happy that thousands of members enjoy our site and come back year after year.
(Thousands? You’ve only got “hundreds” left now, and most of those are lurking until their memberships run out. The game’s all but over, no matter how hard you try.)Our site is aimed at mature Reds, we try to be different than the others. We don’t care if you’re from Liverpool or Libya or whether you attend every game that involves the Reds or whether you’ve never been able to get to Anfield. If you’ve got Red in your heart that’s all that matters. (No – all that matters is that they have to be in possession of a credit or debit card and have to be willing to take all your lies as truth. If either of those isn’t there you don’t want them.)
If you can’t make your own mind up in life and are thinking of not joining because you’ve seen a site taking a pop at us, we kind of understand, but maybe you’re not the sort of member we’re looking for. We don’t want people who aren’t intelligent enough to differentiate between a genuine moan and a direct attempt to discredit our site simply because of our success and because we don’t have time for fools.
(Good move Dunk. “If you are so thick that you believe a site run on a completely voluntary basis over a site that makes enough money for its unwaged owner that he can travel around the states in a party of four for four weeks then you aren’t welcome! No we didn’t steal money from Lauren, but we’re spending a hell of a lot on this holiday, and this gadget-filled van (did that ever materialise?) even though we’ve not got only a couple of hundred members. Obviously it’s still a lot of money you can make from even a few members, but £30 each time 300 is only nine grand. And you claim your web hosting costs 1200 quid a month. And you claim you’ve got permission to use all of those photographs on your site from the Premier League, even though you’d have to get permission from Anfield as well as the Premier League and then you’d have to pay a huge sum for the licence. And quite a large sum for each photograph too. Your little attempt at psychology is only going to attract fools isn’t it? Which is what you need, because without fools you’ll struggle to keep your myths alive.)We have members from all races, backgrounds and ages. Sign-up and if you don’t like our website, why not email the man himself via dunk2007koptalk.com and tell him.
(Email him then. Ask him some questions. See if he’ll reply. Because from what I can gather, he won’t reply to anyone who asks even a slightly difficult question. All you get is an auto-responder where he claims other people filter his emails before he sees them! As if he’d trust Katrina to read his mail first, especially if most of it contains stuff that might make her finally see that Dunk did rip her mate Lauren off after all.Keep an eye on our existing member feedback, they’re the only people you should pay any attention to. Don’t listen to us, our rejects or our rivals, listen to what our existing members think.
(How many of those “existing members” a) are still existing and b) exist? )
KopTalk doesn’t rival anyone, they just want to rival us and we know why…
(Dunk, again, shows his obsession with the word “rival”. He’s not afraid of the competition at all is he? And one last point on this update that I admit is probably too long: This blog is not making money. This blog is not an LFC website. This blog is here purely to educate LFC fans and others about Duncan Oldham and his many scams. As soon as Dunk goes then so will this blog. As soon as Dunk finds another club or another sport to scam, the blog will be locked. As soon as Dunk gets what he deserves after his years of bullying, the blog will no longer be needed. )
Keep reading, keep spreading the word, keep on Dunk’s back. There can’t be too many left now that don’t know the truth about him.
Koptalk – Charting it's Decline and Fall
September 21, 2006 — Koptalk Outsiderby Rupert Insider
This Alexa chart purports to show the internet traffic first to Koptalk (in blue) and then to this blog (in red). At least for one brief shining moment – this blog has had more traffic! More importantly, it shows the extent of the decline and fall of Duncan Oldham and his Koptalk site as a presence in the LFC community on the internet.
These numbers are remarkable.
Koptalk has been in existence for more than seven years. According to its owner it is a five million pounds business based on its assets, its subscription list, its traffic, its revenues from betting and adult date-finder referrals and Google Ads. And even when he is in one of his more modest moods – it produces revenues in the hundreds of thousands of pounds which buys him Mercedes and other vehicles, as well as properties, foreign holidays, season tickets for LFC and Newcastle United and mountains of pies and peas. And in his begging moods when he pleads poverty – he stresses how many scores of thousands of pounds it costs him in computers, servers, software licenses, image rights and around-the-clock 7×24 maintenance by a team of three or four of Her Majesty’s dependants.
We, on the other hand, use free software and a free server. We have no subscription list. We have no advertisements – no revenues of any kind – and we have existed only a few months. In financial terms, we are what a chartered accountant might call “a black hole”.
This blog is not even a website and not, therefore, designed to compete for traffic with other LFC web-sites.
In fact we encourage our visitors to visit all of them (except Koptalk) for all the goodies they offer. They have lively, witty forums, and football archives, and statistics, and information about games and travel, and links to live matches and video downloads and news services and many other attractions. They are designed to attract traffic. They are designed to be permanent. They, too, are free.
All we do is concentrate on the scams of Duncan Oldham and Koptalk. We are not permanent and intend to close down when Koptalk closes down.
As our contributors have explained many times before, a blog is a daily or regular diary – it is an ongoing analysis which welcomes comments positive and negative. It’s not a place where witty one-liners are at a premium – although we have had more than our fair share of those – its a serious forum for recording facts, analysis and argument about an unpleasant but, at times, surreal subject-matter.
One of the negative comments about the blog – as recorded on the blog and on other sites – is that we are repetitive. It’s true – we admit it!
We have explained that repetition is a necessary evil (a) because Oldham and Koptalk are repetitive and (b) because the blog is not only for those who have already been convinced but for those who still want to know.
New visitors arrive every day who want the whole story as quickly as possible and don’t have time to read the blog from the beginning. They either don’t know about, or don’t want to use, the Search feature or the Read Me section.
(And to be honest – given the limitations on our free software and our time – neither of those features are completely efficient).
So we give summaries, we repeat the essentials. New readers can get up-to-speed fast if they read only the contributions of the previous week.
It’s nice to have the Alexa chart though, for those who say that nobody is interested in reading constant criticisms of Oldham and Koptalk. We can now say that more people are interested in reading criticism of him than reading his woeful site.
One word of caution – we are not in a ratings race. And our traffic depends on our output. And our output depends on Oldham’s and Koptalk’s output. If nothing is going on there, then not much can go on here. Hopefully, one day soon Koptalk will be dead, and this blog, too,will say goodbye.
But don’t weep for Oldham, he can always use his black Mercedes as a hearse.
Now there’s an idea – “Oldham and Stepbrother – Funeral Services”. (“Join our Insider for guaranteed access to life hereafter and our Gold Club for those who want to sit at God’s right hand”).
Liverpool FC Closing In? Dunc about to do a runner?
September 6, 2006 — Koptalk Outsider
What is going on at Koptalk HQ? While we’re all trying to second guess the fat Geordie conman, there may be a simpler explanation. He’s about to do a runner.
By closing down the free forums Dunc has surely abandoned his recruiting ground for new paying members in the medium and long term. A certain victory for this blog. We know he’s had the worst summer for signups since he started Koptalk. Thanks to this blog, and other startup LFC websites, Koptalk is out of pocket; This summer has been a disaster and his visit to Melwood last week was a last desperate attempt to convice his users.
He may be thick, but when it comes to money, Dunc(e) will do whatever it takes to keep it rolling in – and with a long term strategy for keeping the money rolling. Koptalk HQ are fighting for their survival, but how long will it last, and what if there is no long term strategy any more?
I don’t think this latest twist is an ill-conceived marketing plan. For Duncan there must be a very good reason for his shutting down of the free site, and if you believe the rumours, our famous and proud football club are finally about to come down hard on Oldham and his constant illegal activities.
His latest stunt could be one last money spinner before doing a runner. Isn’t he set to go to Malta for two weeks later this month? Maybe he’s bought a one-way ticket!
His shenanigans at Melwood last week could have given LFC grounds for legal action, and with the North East Trading Standards, the Inland Revenue and many more organisations closing in on the fat con man, maybe he’s planning on a disappearance.
I am no legal expert, but as I understand it his visit to Melwood, sticking paparazzi style camcorders and wide-lensed cameras in the faces of Liverpol FC staff and players, has upset quite a few and rightly so. His implications of having a ‘gateman in his pocket’ has also ruffled a few feathers, and put jobs of honest hard-working folk on the line at Melwood.
Pretending to buy a property close to Melwood fitted with CCTV cameras to watch the comings and goings at a private property would breach many privacy and invasion laws. Something else to upset “the suits”, and besides the daily visits to “spy” on Liverpool FC training sessions would certainly be unwelcome. What would a Newcastle fan be doing spying on LFC training sessions? Selling sensitive information to their rival clubs?
You don’t see the other media outlets such as Sky Sports or the national newspapers camping outside melwood or anfield, and neither would you see any respectable and law-abiding journalist climbing walls with ladders or wheelie bins to take hundreds of snaps of a legitimate companies private property and activities.
So did Duncan finally give LFC solid grounds for legal action? Is Dunc about to take the money and run? I think so.
Koptalk.coN's video of Sheff United v Liverpool
August 19, 2006 — Koptalk OutsiderThe video was posted by “ST3”, aka Steve, who warns you not to archive it. He seems to think this gets him off the hook. You’ll notice that Duncan Oldham won’t post the link himself, because then he can claim it wasn’t him…
http://www1.koptalkinsider.com/060819/190806notarchived.wmv
Steve also says it’s a large file, so enjoy using the Koptalk bandwidth.
Dunk’s actually now convinced he’s this character – “The Kid from Brooklyn”. He’s ditched the avatars of the past including James Whale and Del Trotter, now he’s this guy. According to this page – http://www.thekidfrombrooklyn.com/about.asp – the guy is some kind of “agent” who sells tickets for sporting events. In the UK we often call this type of person a “tout”, unless I’m getting mixed up in some way. In the UK it’s illegal to sell tickets for “soccer” matches at anything over the price of buying the initial ticket, plus some money for a share of any booking fees. As well as having this guy in his avatar, Dunk decided to embed this video into his site, http://205.238.253.222/WeakfortheFlesh_512k.wmv which was part of his chatter with his only friend, Smooch from Noo Yoik.
Dunk KopTalk Daddy
Reged: Aug 20 2004
Posts: 9435
Loc: KOPTALK
Re: The Kid From Brooklyn [Re: bazza76]
#1611186 – Sat Aug 19 2006 02:25 AM
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Is he a relation of yours Dunk?
FLMAO
Smoove say’s he’s just like me
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…and the big man’s always, always, happy to see ya…
Smoochie himself was trying to get some conversation going on the Insider, anything to drown out that tumbleweed noise…
Smoove The Bouncer
Reged: Jan 21 2006
Posts: 88
Loc: New York
“What makes Liverpool special?”
#1611159 – Sat Aug 19 2006 01:41 AM
You probably know that I’m a friend of Dunks from the States. I’ve been getting into football for the last couple of years due to Dunks site. He’s often told me what makes Liverpool a special team, but what do YOU think makes Liverpool special? What makes them different to other English clubs in your opinion?
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Then a couple of posts later, in pops the obese conman himself. The very one who uses Liverpool FC to suit his own ends as often as he can. The one who is not a Liverpool supporter, just a user of the club…
Dunk KopTalk Daddy
Reged: Aug 20 2004
Posts: 9435
Loc: KOPTALK
Re: “What makes Liverpool special?” [Re: wiwma]
#1611183 – Sat Aug 19 2006 02:23 AM Reply QuoteThe real fans, they are very switched on. The best thing I like about Liverpool fans is that they show respect to the opposition more than you’ll see anywhere else like applauding the visiting keeper when he runs to the goal in front of the Kop. They also appreciate good football and will applaud opposition players when they show class.
Take support… look at the Community Shield. Our girls and boys went regardless of the distance where as Chelsea fans couldn’t be bothered.
Liverpool FC is about tradition. I really must sort you some DVD’s out Smoove.
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Of course none of this was rehearsed. I’m sure Smooch and Dunk weren’t chattering on MSN prior to Smoove starting that thread in the “chill-out room”. Except it was also posted, the exact same thread, in the “Gold Club”. And the exact same answer from Oldham had been posted there too, a little earlier…
Smoove The Bouncer
Reged: Jan 21 2006
Posts: 88
Loc: New York
“What makes Liverpool special?”
#1611158 – Sat Aug 19 2006 01:41 AMYou probably know that I’m a friend of Dunks from the States. I’ve been getting into football for the last couple of years due to Dunks site. He’s often told me what makes Liverpool a special team, but what do YOU think makes Liverpool special? What makes them different to other English clubs in your opinion?
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Dunk KopTalk Daddy
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Posts: 9435
Loc: KOPTALK
Re: “What makes Liverpool special?” [Re: richt71]
#1611166 – Sat Aug 19 2006 01:56 AM
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… we are always known as knowledgeable fans!
Hmmm… when you’ve interacted with as many fans as me Rich, that opinion can become a little clouded
Joking apart, the real fans, yes, they are very switched on. The best thing I like about Liverpool fans is that they show respect to the opposition more than you’ll see anywhere else like applauding the visiting keeper when he runs to the goal in front of the Kop. They also appreciate good football and will applaud opposition players when they show class.
Take support… look at the Community Shield. Our girls and boys went regardless of the distance where as Chelsea fans couldn’t be bothered.
Liverpool FC is about tradition. I really must sort you some DVD’s out Smoove.
So it’s a chance for Dunk to try and convince the rapidly dropping userbase that he’s a true Liverpool fan and that all of those who got banned (sorry, those who banned themselves) are just kids who don’t support Liverpool. Trouble is Dunk, they didn’t spend the past 8 years trying to make themselves rich by whatever means they could, regardless of who got hurt on the way.
People were a bit lost about why they couldn’t make the use of Koptalk they did last year, one of their reasons for joining the Gold Club was gone…
the stuartb Gold Member
Reged: Jun 20 2002
Posts: 469
Loc: Atlanta, US
Red Als streaming info?
#1611211 – Sat Aug 19 2006 04:42 AMDid I miss something or are Red Als posts no longer around for games on the net?
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You missed something stuartb.
Andy_James Gold Member
Reged: Feb 02 2005
Posts: 59
Can anyone help…?
#1611088 – Fri Aug 18 2006 11:19 PM
Been away for a bit, can anyone tell me what happened to the ‘Live’ section on KT, and also how to access Red Al’s help site?
Any help would be much appreciated,
Ta,
Andy.
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It’s gone Andy.
Red Al left some time ago – it’s here on the blog, you’ll not find it on Koptalk now.
Meanwhile, Duncan’s proposed move to a new server is STILL NOT HAPPENING! It keeps being put back and put back. Anyone would think that this move to new £900 a month server was just another made up story. He’s still got this message at the top of his forums too: “06/08/06: This week we will start pressing ahead with our server move. We will keep you updated in advance.”
That’s his free forums, which included free streaming info this morning, yet more proof that there’s no need to buy a Gold Club sub. http://www.koptalk.orggggg/forums/showtopic.php?tid/20334/
Username Post: Internet Streaming Links (Topic#20334)
saycc U-17 Player Posts: 64 Age: 32
18-08-06 08:10 AM – Post#306635
Well.. i thought i would better start this topic and our season early.Very often i have got to rely on internet streaming to catch the actions due to works and travelling. I reckon many of you out there are the same and i was always glad to see some koptalkers provide the streaming links in the past.
here are some links that you could get the streaming for tomorrow’s game. I think only the first link gives you the english commentary and the rest in chinese.
ppstream://hwmj…
ppstream://3iih…
ppstream://hwm… (Links removed by me)please reply and add on to the list if you happened to know other links…
And on it went. Post after post. All from people not looking to make money out of the links, as used to be the case on the Gold club apart from the owner of the Gold Club – who plugged his site like mad on the back of the streams and the clips.
In the absence of Red Al he has to put the info on himself, as “NJRED”. The deluded Oldham, of Swan Avenue Wallsend, thinks it gets him off the hook to do this (I’ve obviously edited this post, but have left enough behind for you to what it said originally…)
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Sheff United online feeds
#1611488 – Sat Aug 19 2006 12:05 PM
Software required depending on source:–
PP Live: http://www.myp2p.eu/..rest of link removed
Sopcast: http://www.myp2p.eu/..rest of link removed
PCast: http://www.myp2p.eu/..rest of link removed
TV Ants: http://www.myp2p.eu/..rest of link removed
Kookoo: http://www.myp2p.eu/..rest of link removed
Afreeca: http://www.myp2p.eu/..rest of link removedTry these feeds:–
ESPN: PCast Link TVANTS Link Sopcast Link
Guandong: Guandong Link TVANTS Link Sopcast Link
Shanghai sports: PP Stream Link TVANTS Link PCast Link Sopcast Link
QSIV: PP Stream
SipTv/Fortunesports: PCast Link
Also try Afreeca. http://www.myp2p.eu/..rest of link removed
So, is this Gold club site worth 30 quid? Not really.
By the way – Dunk should now have closed his site, so who will the authorities speak to about this stolen and unlicenced photograph on his Koptalk.coN homepage? The one that has not credit on it.
We found that the people dealing with the rights of a lot of the photo agencies are now trying to make it easier for media outlets to use their images. So rather than suing Dunk, they might just send him a bill for a few hundred quid per photo. We contacted them to make sure they knew about it too. If he can afford up to ten grand a year for his server, he can afford the costs of using those photos on his website.
Not that he’s got a website now. He promised to close it if there was no investment by the start of this season. This season has now started.
What rhymes with "Kuyt" but starts with "Bull-"?
August 18, 2006 — Koptalk OutsiderSo, after waiting 12 months or more, Rafael Benítez has finally got his man – Dirk Kuyt is a Red. (I am going along with the idea his name is pronounced “Kite” by the way, not “Koit” or “Koat”, for the sake of the post’s title!) Or at least he will be today when the formalities are completed. He could even be in the squad for tomorrow’s game against Sheffield United.
Koptalk, with its claims of all kinds of insider contacts, didn’t know any more than anybody else. They followed the news like the rest of us – reading the Echo website, reading the official website, looking out for information from other (not Koptalk) websites to see if they knew anything.
Dunk knew nothing. And we’ve been able to prove this time and again. The lack of insider knowledge within Koptalk is just one reason not to buy a subscription to the site. One of many. He has no contacts.
Someone reminded him about his gateman. He didn’t respond. (Last month he’d claimed he’d bribed a gateman to provide him with news on comings and goings at Melwood. He hadn’t, he’s a liar.) The reminder of the gateman lie came on Wednesday when it had been reported everywhere that Liverpool were pulling out all the stops possible to give Kuyt his move to Anfield, and when it had been reported Feyenoord had already allowed Kuyt to chat to the club about his possible move.
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Re: Dirk Kuyt Transfer News & Discussion [Re: Dunk]
#1606517 – Wed Aug 16 2006 12:42 PM Reply Quote
Quote:
Quote:
what do you think our chances of signing this chap are Dunk, in percentages.
100% for him signing
We’re still waiting for your gateman to feed us with info.
How about some photos Dunk – from Chris Waddle’s house perhaps? This was at lunchtime yesterday. (Dunk claimed last month that he was considering making an offer on Chris Waddle’s home outside Liverpool’s training ground.)
mwdareds
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Re: Dirk Kuyt Transfer News & Discussion [Re: nonni19]
#1608331 – Thu Aug 17 2006 12:45 PM Reply QuoteCan anybody near Melwood get any pictures?
Not Dunk, obviously. He’s not even near the training ground. What about his Koptalk photographer? He never had one really. And he’s gone back to using stolen photos on his website again as you’ll have spotted.
All this money for the insider site yet not a bit of advanced information. Until, wait, some news on the medical…
Conno
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Posts: 138
Loc: Liverpool
Re: Dirk Kuyt Transfer News & Discussion [Re: Gazzla]
#1609374 – Thu Aug 17 2006 10:17 PMHe’s passed the medical according to Dave Usher on TLW.
Oh, I see. It is “insider” information, from someone with a contact or two at the club, but it’s not from Koptalk, it’s from another website. We found that thread on the TLW website, didn’t cost us a bean – http://forum.liverpoolway.co.uk/showthread.php?t=36105
Still, at least Dunk’s mum has been trying to cheer Dunk up. She’s just remembered he doesn’t support Leeds any more, like he did as a kid…
Dunk
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Re: Sky reckon we will finish….. 2nd! [Re: brettreading]
#1608816 – Thu Aug 17 2006 04:15 PM Reply QuoteMy mum turned round today and said, “Son, I think Liverpool will win the league this season”. That’s the first time she’s ever said that since I’ve known her
So there you are then. Exclusive. Dunk’s mum thinks LFC will win the league. That’s the only contacts Dunk has. His family. Who all live between Scarborough and Newcastle.
Koptalk is dropping off in member numbers. Dropping off in moderator numbers too as former moderators start to see how they are assisting the dodgy Del Johnson. A member wanted to know if he could discuss the missing members. Or would the dictatorship prevent such crimes and criminals even being mentioned. Can you guess what the answer was?
CtrlAltDelete
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FAO DUNK
#1608574 – Thu Aug 17 2006 02:21 PM Thx for the “Gold Club Etiquette”. Nice to see you address some of the issues that has been a priority this summer. Seeing that I was on vacation in July, I’m still trying to figure out what the hell happend and where so many of the oldtimers are.So here is my question:
Are we allowed to talk about former members of this institution and what happend over the summer, or is that a strict “no go”?
I hope the question is in order!
– – – – – –Dunk Executive Editor
Reged: Aug 20 2004
Loc: KOPTALK
Re: FAO DUNK [Re: CtrlAltDelete]
#1608624 – Thu Aug 17 2006 02:50 PM
It’s not right to talk about anyone who isn’t here. We had been receiving complaints for some time that some members, particular Honorary Members, were getting out of hand. A handful of friends didn’t it when we took action and they opted to leave. No drama at this side of the fence, it happens. I’ve seen it before on the main site and we’ll see it again. People get close which is great but when the majority suffer, we have to break up cliques that flout the rules that exist for the benefit of everyone. It wasn’t popular with a few people but the feedback I have received is that things have greatly improved. That’s about it really. Despite the claims, I don’t think anyone was banned. If they were, it would be a couple at max. People ban themselves, we don’t ban them. Life goes on
“Despite the claims, I don’t think anyone was banned.” Hmmm. As far as I’m concerned, you are either allowed to join in or you aren’t. If Dunk has taken steps to stop you from joining in then you are no longer allowed to join in, and so are banned. It doesn’t matter how you dress it up – “locked out awaiting the provision of details” or “honorary membership taken away” – a ban is a ban. Any reputable site would have a way of allowing anyone treated in this way to complain to management – but that’s the dictator himself at Koptalk, so fat chance.
Dunk has taken one step towards allowing people to leave support questions on his forum. He’s allowed them to leave them secretly. As he says in his signature – “Need support? Please post a message in the ‘Member Support’ forum. Only KopTalk will see your message.”
That’s good in a way, some support questions I agree need to be confidential. It turns out though it will only be the ones that Dunk decides to make confidential that will remain that way. Red Del was one who asked a question. Dunk answered his question without showing the original question to other members. Another example of censorship, and surely if Del should be entitled to have either his original question quoted or to have his name ommitted from the answer. (And yes, this is the same Red Del with the video clips. He’s changed his password and we’ve decided not to publish the new one yet. As long as he doesn’t add any more clips for Dunk to use to sell his site I’m prepared to call a “truce” on the clips.) He was asking why threads get deleted. We all know why – because they show Dunk up to be a lying dictator. Red Del wanted to know what Dunk’s answer would be –
Dunk Executive Editor
Reged: Aug 20 2004
Loc: KOPTALK
FAO Red Del
#1609193 – Thu Aug 17 2006 07:40 PM
Thanks for the questions about why mods delete threads and don’t leave reasons.At KopTalk we have MASSIVE communities. We have the Insider forums, the Gold Club forums and the main site forums @ koptalk.orful/forums
It is impossible to post reasons behind why a thread was moved, deleted or edited. If we were to do that all day we’d never get any real work done. That is a simple fact. It’s just not possible.
Nobody gets a thread removed for the fun of it. Providing threads stay within the Acceptable Use Policy they don’t get pulled.
If people educated themselves by taking a few moments of their time reading the AUP, then they would understand.
None of us enjoy modding the forums but it has to be done. If we make a decision, follow it through and then explain it, we’d be there all day.
For example, if two people are exchanging blows on a thread it is better to delete it. Lock it and they start another. Start another and they are asked to cut it out. Keep posting new threads to continue their row and we just keep deleting.
If we were to create a post explaining why we removed their row, others who missed it then want to know what was in it so even more threads start and more people start fighting.
This is just one example. Nip it in the bud and 9 times out of 10, people leave it. I’ve been moderating forums for more than 10 years now and I have enough experience to know how to do moderate them for the benefit of the entire community and the people who moderate them.
Sometimes it is hard for forum members to really understand how hard it is for moderators to try and keep everyone happy. But at the end of the day it’s not personal because if it was personal the offending person(s) wouldn’t be here.
I hope that helps a little
This is the AUP which will soon be updated for the next season:
http://www.koptalk.disinfo/acceptableusepolicy.shtml
Need support? Please post a message in the ‘Member Support’ forum. Only KopTalk will see your message.
So it’s diffcult to leave a line saying, “Thread Deleted – Reason: Abuse of fellow member” is it? I know and he knows, we all know, it’s a piece of piss to be transparent about these things. Unless you’ve something to hide.
Like Milkman’s thread listing all the predictions made by Insider members about transfers. Dunk got all his wrong, so did his aliases. Guess what happened to that thread within minutes of it being bumped to the top. You can find the list on this blog, and someone also posted it on www.est1892.co.uk. So Dunk’s attempts to try and hide more proof of him being a bullshitter failed. Again.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell nowadays whether questions asked on Koptalk forums are asked genuinely by members unaware of the truth about Dunk, or if they are sarcasm. In some cases I already know because I’ve already been in touch with the poster, but not always. Take this one next, I’ve no idea if “Chewbacca” knows about Dunk’s upthetoon.coN site, but it sounds like he could…
Chewbacca
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Newcastle’s Response to LFC move
#1608423 – Thu Aug 17 2006 01:19 PM Reply QuoteHas anyone been on the Toon forums to see what they have to say? I can’t view any of their sites at work
Dunk
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Re: Newcastle’s Response to LFC move [Re: Chewbacca]
#1608432 – Thu Aug 17 2006 01:22 PM Reply QuoteWho cares mate? I’m sure they’re gutted. Some of them emailed U2US on Sky Sports saying we would be lethal as a result
Says Dunk who’s probably been there all afternoon pretending to be “Barry”. Not on his own Toon forum though – that disappeared a while ago and won’t return because he might have to pay a licence fee for it, and he doesn’t want to do that.
This is the “Gold Club Etiquette” referred to above.
Dunk
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Gold Club Etiquette
#1608516 – Thu Aug 17 2006 01:50 PM
Over the summer we have shown that no matter who you are, the majority of the members must always come first. This season we will be very strict on the conduct of anyone posting in the Gold Club sections, not because we’re killjoys, but because we want to keep things sensible.Contrary to popular belief on other Liverpool fans sites, money isn’t everything. Quality is more important than quantity. We will not just accept anyone as a member and those who we feel are not respectful to their other members, will not be invited to renew their subs. We want to make this a place for mature discussions only.
We really want to promote and provide a mature and sensible area for Liverpool fans on the net. Some of our members here are in their 60’s and 70’s, some are under 16. We also have members from all walks of life and backgrounds. Because of this we need to ensure that we’re providing an environment suitable to all.
Over the summer we clamped down and we know this wasn’t popular but this zero tolerance will continue for the benefit of everyone. If you want a free reign, then this isn’t the place to be.
Football is a passionate support so we like to think that we understand from time to time that some people fly off the handle. People don’t get banned for anything like that, they only ban themselves if they continue to be abusive or ignore our polite requests to tame things down. The majority usually apologise (not that we want apologies) and by the time the next topic comes around again, people who were beating each other up with their handbags are friends again. That’s what it’s all about, right?!
We, more than anyone, love a laugh and a bit of banter, so nobody could ever say we’re politically correct or too sensible. The day we have to go all serious is the day we pack it in. But there’s a time and a place.
Please, please, please try and keep the Gold Club areas sensible. Let’s see plenty of on topical indepth discussions, less duplicate posts and no foul or abusive language.
The Insider sections are a bit more laid back but still, we don’t want the Zoo to be run by the animals
Under every post is a report icon image, it looks like this:
If you see offensive posts or something you want to notify us about, just click on that image. We won’t respond to you but we will look at the post(s) you have brought to our attention.
These communities are moderated 24 hours-a-day. We now have a KOPTALK member of staff browsing the forums 24/7 and there are moderators who also help us out. Moderators are fellow members like yourself and if anyone is abusive to them you will be ejected by the stewards
We really want the place to be buzzing and fun but we just want everyone to think about the bigger picture i.e. the whole community.
Another request is that you refrain from typing in ‘SMS style ling’. We have a handful of blind members who use word recognition software to read the forums.
We absolutely hate having to moderate the forums but it has to be done. We moderate the forums as we do for YOU. Foul and abusive language doesn’t offend us but it might offend someone else, someone at work or someone who logs on in the company of their children for example.
I would also like to be kept informed of any ads on the site (Insider section for example) that you feel are inappropriate. 99.9% of all ads displayed are provided by the ad agency and we don’t see them until they appear. Some ads we don’t see at all because we may be in a different country to you. But we can filter out specific ads if you give us feedback via the appropriate channels i.e. a support ticket, a call, MSN to Steve (support@koptalk.com) or a post in the support forum on this site.
The new support forum enables you to post a message privately in it for our attention so if you want to submit notes to us, you can do so that way if you don’t want to submit a support ticket.
This season we will introduce a freephone 0800 telephone number for Gold Club members. This means you will be able to call us for support completely free of charge.
When it comes to support, we prefer to speak to you personally. This is the best way to resolve any issues with passwords etc. We will call you wherever you live in the world. It’s never a problem, you only need to ask.
Please enjoy your time on the site and if you ever need assistance, never hesitate to contact us.
Now go and get some money on Liverpool to win the Premier League!
Etiquette? Rant more like. And as for this 0800 number, I somehow doubt this will be brought in. And if it is, well you’ll know what it is from us here.
And maybe we’ll be able to pass the number on to any authorities looking at Dunk. I need to go and find the email I got from someone explaining the rules on competitions, but there’s a good reason why big companies put the words, “No purchase necessary” into their competition entry rules. Unless I’m mistaken, Dunk’s breaking the law by not making the offer open to all. And the earlier competition he’s referring to was the World Cup one. He’s so amateur and lacking in organisation that he forgot to carry the competition on. Until one of his members reminded him…
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NEXT COMPETITION!
#1607197 – Wed Aug 16 2006 08:17 PM
Right.. the XBOX 360 comp is still running so make sure you’ve entered (for Sheffield Utd) if you’re still elible (if you progressed from the last round)!Our next competition which will run alongside the XBOX 360, will start on 26th August (LFC v West Ham).
The prize on offer will be a multi-satellite receiver which can receive thousands of channels and feeds. You can connect this to a fixed dish or a motorised dish. The prize consists of the receiver, you will need the other kit i.e. dish, cable and any CAMs/cards (for subscription channels).
Members from the UK or overseas can enter but you must be a Gold Club member.
Finally, just a chance to read some complete bullshit from Oldham as a member asks the innocent question. “p7chu”, may know about the blog and all the reasons why so many left to join other sites, he may not. As I say above, it’s hard to tell nowadays. And if I’m finding it hard to tell, imagine how difficult it is for the Fat Controller. But the member asks a valid question – if Dunk has the contacts he claims to have, why did he fail to call the transfer before the nationals?
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Koptalk’s Goodbye to Robbie Fowler – “Close the Door on Your Way Out!”
August 11, 2006 — Koptalk Outsiderby Rupert Insider
August 10, 2006
(This topic has been dealt with before on different pages. Several new readers have asked for an overview. For those not familiar with Liverpool I have added information about the restaurants and bars involved in the story. If you don’t like long posts, don’t even start!J But to break it up, we will print it in three parts over a number of days. Subsequently, it will be archived in the Read Me section as a single document).
PART 1
On the afternoon of Wednesday, the 28th November, 2001, Liverpool Football Club announced that terms had been agreed for the transfer of Robbie Fowler to Leeds United.
It was probably the biggest outward transfers in the history of the club. But Koptalk failed to predict it. It’s “Anfield Mole” had gone up a blind alley again.
Within a couple of hours of the public announcement, Duncan Oldham, the self-styled “Editor” of Koptalk published a mocking editorial entitled “Close the Door on Your Way Out”.
His site received more hits that day than at any other time, before or since.
We know from many sources – including a published interview with Jamie Redknapp – that Robbie was devastated, distraught and in tears as he said goodbye to his team mates and the staff at Melwood and Anfield he had known since he was fifteen years of age. Houllier had not given him a chance to say goodbye to his loyal fans on the Kop. It could not have helped him to know that the Editor of the largest supporters’ fan site (as it was at that time) was celebrating his departure with the spiteful cry “good riddance to bad rubbish”.
But there was more to come.
When Peter Risdale, the Executive Director of Leeds United, announced that his club’s medicals would take a day to complete, Oldham was quick to explain that what Risdale really meant was that Fowler would be subjected to rigorous tests for drug and alcohol abuse – so the transfer might not yet happen. When Friday brought the news that Robbie had passed the medical tests with flying colours, Oldham did not then concede the flip-side of his argument – that the extra-stringent tests refuted the slander and lies about Fowler, alcohol and drugs that Oldham had been peddling for more than two years.
He just shifted the direction of the attack. The transfer fee was £11 million, somewhat less than Liverpool’s presumed asking price of £15 and less than the £12 million Chelsea was thought to have offered earlier that year. Oldham offered an “inside” spin that the actual fee was nearer £8 million, with additional monies to be paid only after certain appearance and performance thresholds, which, he said, Fowler would not be able to reach. He went on to say that the £11 million was merely a face-saving figure. It amounted to humiliation for Fowler considering that Owen would fetch offers in the £40-50 million ranges from European teams.
Well we all know what codswallop all that turned out to be!
A contributor to the Wikipaedia entry on LFC states what many believe – that while Gerard Houllier acted as though he was an admirer of Fowler’s character and talents he simultaneously orchestrated a PR campaign to force him out of the club. Chris Bascombe of the Liverpool Echo has written retrospectively on Houllier’s manipulative tactics with respect to Fowler. And Fowler, himself, has dealt with it in his recent autobiography.
There are some who suggest that in 1999-2001 Koptalk aligned itself with the alleged Houllier’s strategy to weaken the hold Fowler had on the affections of the supporters and the Board of Directors.
Certainly, Koptalk’s forums were dominated by articulate anti-Fowler posters who seemed to regard themselves as Houllier’s little-helpers. Many of them also related their anti-Fowler stance to their support of Michael Owen. They regarded Fowler as the injured but recovering “rival” to their favourite, both in the LFC and England squads. But that was their prerogative as fans – to express opinions – and, to be fair; there was a minority on Koptalk who tried to oppose the dominant view.
But this blog is not about Koptalk’s posters, it is about Duncan Oldham. And we know he had no dealings with Houllier or Owen or anyone at Anfield. So what were his motives for his personal anti-Fowler campaign? For a reply, look no further than what he said on his site last week – that in “this lark” of running a web site his motive is “always to look after No.1”.
And that’s what this blog post is about – not about the merits of the Houllier-Fowler conflict – but about some of the ways Oldham sought to make money from it.
I’d like to take you back to July 2000, to the Moat House hotel on Paradise Street in Liverpool. That’s where Robbie was assaulted in the lobby toilet by two guys. But that is the subject of PART 2 which will be posted in a couple of days!!
Official Koptalk Exposed Site 
Oldham the Conman
October 19, 2009 — Koptalk OutsiderDunk claims he’s not bothered with this blog or the “haterz” as he calls us. Despite this, every other video on his moanvideo site, and most of his tweets are about us. In fact he talking, tweeting and thinking about us all the time. I can understand why though, as we’ve managed to reduce the number of people he is ripping off by several thousands in the three and a half years the blog has been running. Today he made a tweet with links to three different websites where he’s addressing us. On one of them there is a long speech where he tries to defend himself from some of the issues we’ve brought up on this blog. How does he even know what we say when he claims that de doesn’t read this blog? The truth is, he’s one of our most avid readers. Here’s what he says: Read the rest of this entry »