How exclusive is an EXCLUSIVE?

A couple of days ago Dunk posted an exclusive news item on his paid koptalk forum. This was as usual promoted on Twitter and Facebook and what not with links to the sign up site joinkoptalk. The news was this: EXCLUSIVE: Liverpool swoop for Premier League ace. With the added info on the front page of koptalk: Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers has already started looking at his summer transfer options as he looks to strengthen his squad after failing to do so during the January transfer window.

So, what was this about then? Inside the forum where the full story was posted we could read this:

EXCLUSIVE: Liverpool swoop for Premier League ace
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Registered: August 05, 2006
Posts: 36457

Football agent Dario Canovi has allegedly held talks with Liverpool as they consider making a summer move for his client Micah Richards.

Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers is a big fan of the 25-year-old Manchester City defender and has identified him as a replacement for big-earner Glen Johnson, unless the 29-year-old agrees to sign a new contract on significanly reduced terms and can shake off his injury problems.

Richards continues to be linked with us on a frequent basis by the British media and a source at the club has now confirmed that there has been contact.

The source said: “Canovi met with people from Napoli and Liverpool last month. He was in Liverpool during the last week of the window to discuss Micah which sparked those reports [in the press at the time, that claimed Rodgers was trying to sign him on loan].

“The initial contact at the agency [that represents Micah] wasn’t Canovi but he has been dealing as he sat with Inter and Napoli before talking to Liverpool. He has a good knowledge of the state of play in Italy with regards the interest in Micah.

“Glen Johnson’s future needs to be resolved first but if City don’t ask for foolish money, then this one should proceed further. Liverpool have spoken to them (City) about a possible deal. There have been talks but it’s a very early stage. These will continue in due course.

“There is no feedback from Richards to date about where he wants to play his football.”

To find out how exclusive this was, I had a look at NewsNow to see if there were other news reports linking Richards to Liverpool, and I found these, all posted before Dunk’s so called EXCLUSIVE:
http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2014-02-16/rumours-liverpool-want-man-city-defender-richards-and-keeper-navas-man-united-eye-dortmund-duo/
http://bwinbetting.com/leagues/premier-league/liverpool-blazing-trail-sign-man-city-reject-summer,51996.html
http://soccerlens.com/micah-richards-available-for-8m-in-the-summer/127571/
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-transfers-isco-geoffrey-6716187
and several more from around the transfer window closing. Not suprising though is it that some of these reports are suggesting that the source of the latest rumours is the s*n. Wouldn’t exactly be the first time news from there pops up on koptalk as exclusives.

So, what’s exclusive about a rumour that’s printed several other places? Nothing! I think I agree with this koptalk member:

Re: “Ace” [Re: swajames]
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Registered: August 12, 2004
Posts: 940 Is Dunk guilty of over exaggerating a headline to get more punters through the door?

I must admit it got me interested when I saw the headline but when I saw the actual name I lost interest – nice marketing tho….

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Koptalk Insiders nowhere to be seen as Liverpool add to the squad

Liverpool FC today announced they have reached an agreement to sign Oussama Assaidi from Heerenveen, subject to the player passing a medical.
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/reds-agree-deal-for-winger
This transfer came out of the blue as it’s not been mentioned anywhere in the media or on the internet as far as we can see.

The members of koptalk are paying to get information before anyone else, but they never do. Not in this case either. The only mention of the player before the news broke was from a member who mentioned Fulham wanted to sign him and another player more than two months ago. That was all. The imaginary koptalk insiders was nowhere to be seen. If you belive what Dunk says about who his sources are, you have to wonder why they knew nothing about this transfer. Why didn’t Informer pop up with his usual “money is being transfered” shite as he does when a player is looking nailed on to sign in a few days? Last year he was banging on with this for what must have been a month before we actually signed Adam. Every time it looked like it was about to happen he came out with that story. But not now. Not a word. Why is that? The simple answer is; “Dunk didn’t pick this up from the media”.

Greedy conman shows his true face once again

Another koptalk member has found the membership fee to be a luxury he can’t afford anymore. This time it’s even a moderator who has done a lot of work on the site for free. So you would expect Dunk to give him a “free ride” for a while until his fortunes turn around and he can afford to pay again. After all, what’s the difference for Dunk if a member leaves or stays for free? Not a penny. God knows his dying site needs to keep those who actually bothers to post.

Here’s the post that appeared a couple of days ago: Read the rest of this entry »

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Koptalks attempt to be clever backfires again

We’ve covered some of the following in comments on our previous post, but I guess it’s woth it’s own post now. The so-called inside information on koptalk is getting more embarrassing by the day as the transfers doesn’t go through even though The_Informer said money was about to be moved more than two weeks ago. More than three weeks ago Informer expected LFC to agree a fee for another player as Henderson was about to be signed:

#849708 – June 08, 2011 11:13 some news
The_Informer
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Registered: October 15, 2007
Posts: 158 It seems that Liverpool hope to agree a transfer fee for another English player today based on a memo that I have seen this morning.

Money for Henderson hasn’t left yet but that should be sorted by 4 pm. Henderson wasn’t at Melwood early morning.

Comolli was negotiating with Blackburn Rovers and Birmingham City last night for Jones and Dann and is still talking to Ipswich about Wickham.

Disregard claims that Manchester United are winning the race to sign any of our targets. Every player that we are negotiating for wants to move to Liverpool.

Substantial money is available for further expenditure. Once the long term targets have been secured you will see Comolli turn to Europe.

Notice the edit from the original post in our comments.

This post was made as the media was claiming Jones was at Melwood for a medical. SkyBet even suspended betting on the transfer, but as it later emerged, he was actually on his way to manure. Dunk didn’t want to be caught out though so he, sorry Informer, tried to be clever and get the news out early. Too early it seems, and he spent the best part of that day to try to talk himself out of that error.

Less than a week later rumours again prompted Dunk/Informer to post. There were several rumours doing the rounds though, so he couldn’t be quite sure what was about to happen. The rumours was all about english based players though so that narrowed it down a bit and he came up with this:

#853262 – June 13, 2011 13:13 funds + medical
The_Informer
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Registered: October 15, 2007
Posts: 158
Liverpool are preparing to move money. This won’t happen today as a deadline has passed for this to happen. It should happen tomorrow or Wednesday. Expect a medical later in the week if papers stamped tonight. £5 million advance, U.K. account.

His follow-up showed he didn’t know what was happening:

#853294 – June 13, 2011 13:21 Re: funds + medical [Re: NaviFC]
The_Informer
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Registered: October 15, 2007
Posts: 158

Originally Posted By: NaviFC
Thanks for the info… Is this for Charlie Adam????

I never know the name of players when money is exchanging hands. I only get the destinations. There are no papers to see yet so I know that it this deal hasn’t been agreed. Because of procedure I know something is imminent. I know it’s a U.K. destination and not outside the U.K. because of the currency and the fact it’s not going into a holding account.

So. More than two weeks ago money was about to be moved, and something was imminent. But nothing happened. The twitter rumour mill was just that, rumours. The Adam rumours wouldn’t go away though, and claims that the transfer was close made Dunk confident that he could expand a bit further so he came up with this:

#855770 – June 17, 2011 12:42 some news
The_Informer
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Registered: October 15, 2007
Posts: 158
I previously mentioned that the club were preparing to transfer an advance payment in relation to an imminent player transfer agreement. That agreement did not within the time frame that I expected which isn’t unusual, but the money is earmarked for Blackpool. I don’t think it can go today but I am very confident that it will go ahead. The club would not move money unless they were absolutely certain that a transfer was proceeding. I have never seen anything advance to this stage and then be cancelled off.

Two weeks later, the transfer that was supposed to be imminent, and which the club was moving money for, still hasn’t gone through. A couple of days ago the local media in Blackpool said Adam had told the club he wanted to join Liverpool. And would you belive it? Informer resurfaced:

#862647 – June 30, 2011 11:37 Re: some news [Re: The_Informer]
The_Informer
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Registered: October 15, 2007
Posts: 158

Originally Posted By: The_Informer
I previously mentioned that the club were preparing to transfer an advance payment in relation to an imminent player transfer agreement. That agreement did not within the time frame that I expected which isn’t unusual, but the money is earmarked for Blackpool. I don’t think it can go today but I am very confident that it will go ahead. The club would not move money unless they were absolutely certain that a transfer was proceeding. I have never seen anything advance to this stage and then be cancelled off.

It is going ahead.

A day later it looks like the transfer isn’t so imminent after all as Adam was quoted saying:

“I go back to Blackpool on Monday and that’s the way it is.
“Everybody knows the situation – the club have met with Liverpool but that’s as far as it has gone.
“I had a conversation with the chairman (Karl Oyston) but that will remain private.
“It’s important that we keep everything in-house – whatever happens will happen.”

So, once again Dunks attempts to be clever and try to predict what the future holds, passing it off as inside information, has backfired. We’ve shown you, our readers, time and time again that this is how Dunk works. Still there are hundreds off gullible koptalk members who believe everything they are told by Dunk and his imaginary insiders. Every time they come out with these lies there are dozens of arse-licking replies thanking for the information. Why don’t they demand answers as to why the things they’ve been told turns out to be wrong? Well, there are a few who does, but they are always shot down in flames by the gullible mob. Every time someone tries to raise the subject they’re told “How can you question Informer/wallet/Ranter/Dunk with their proven track record.” But what that proven track record is noone knows. It’s just something they say. Ask them what koptalk and it’s insiders was first to reveal, and they’ll have no clue what to say. It’s like a cult in there. And by the looks of it most of them have committed mass suicide as the forums are dead quiet compared to sites with similar number of members. Even sites with a lot less members are way more active than koptalk these days. The sad thing is that most of the members are only there to read the inside information, but they don’t realize it’s made-up or stolen from other sites. And this is what they pay £36,5 a year for.

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Jordan Henderson transfer rumours

There have been rumours going around the internet at various times that Liverpool are interested in signing Jordan Henderson from Sunderland. About a week ago it emerged again as rumours started circulating on twitter that Liverpool was in for Henderson, and even some rumours we had made a bid and had it accepted. One koptalk member posted this in the forums, but the thread was closed swiftly by Dunk, saying members should not post info from twitter. He also dismissed the rumours and said “Liverpool are not negotiating with the player’s club today. Liverpool have scouted the player several times but today’s claims are untrue and should be dismissed at this time.”

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Koptalks latest scam

Despite claims of thousands and thousands of members paying 36.50 GBP each, koptalk and duncan oldham have resorted to old tricks of conning Liverpool fans to pay for his latest venture, the koptalk iPhone app.

http://www.koptalkblog.coN/2011/02/liverpool-fc-news-iphone-app-update/

What Dunk wont ever tell anyone is how much the project cost and never will he keep a public tab on who donated what and how much money he actually accepted. It smells of his cousin Lauren and the Alder Hey collections where no final amount, though suspected to be in the thousands could ever be accounted for.

It’s classic duncan oldham. Goes off to America with his fiance at the expense of his members and comes back to them with a begging bowl to pay for the app, claiming he cant afford the project
There is no shame in the man, He even wants his members to believe that someone donated 1500 GBP for the app just because he is a good guy and the off-chance the bait will be taken by other members for a contribution.

What will a koptalk app offer anyone that you cant already get for free from Twitter ? Almost everything dunk posts today is recycled from Twitter. If Dunk has all this so-called insider information, how come not one Liverpool Football journalist follows him, not one ? Tony Barrett, Tony Evans, Chris Bascombe, Brian Reade, Ben Thornley to mention a few are all easily accessible on twitter, just ask any one of them their thoughts about duncan oldham and koptalk.

Save your money or do the very bare minimum of doing your homework before you part with any cash.

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Summer 2010 – Insider scoops by koptalk

With the next transfer window fast approaching it may be worth having a look at how the “Insiders” of koptalk did during the transfer window last summer. Quite a few new players arrived, but did the koptalkers know about it before the rest of the internet? Surely that’s why hundreds sign up without even bothering to make a single post in the forums. The lure of inside information has always been the main marketing trick for Dunk, but what do you really get? I did a similar post a couple of years back, and there was no inside info back then. Was there this year? Let’s have a look. Read the rest of this entry »

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