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You may have seen my comment yesterday about a thread Dunk made, where he attacked a koptalk member, calling him a muppet and gloating about what he (Dunk) thought was a piece of inside information broken on koptalk. Needless to say it’s not, but that’s another story. The thread developed into a discussion about who had left koptalk or not, and Dunk had to close it as he doesn’t like people talking about others leaving. But it was going to come back and haunt him later.
SenorButch, who I believe has left koptalk but is (was) still not locked out as his membership has not run out, logged on to koptalk and saw this thread from Dunk. Obviously he didn’t like what he saw, as he’s friends with the member in question. We’re talking about Selkirk07. He and Lecter claimed that we were not in for Glen Johnson, while Dunk (aka wallet) claimed we were. There was no foul language or anything, just a disagreement. But as the Johnson-transfer is unfolding in the media, Dunk has been all over the place with his “what did I tell you” comments and “Dunk knows best”.
Anyway, SenorButch wasn’t going to see his friend treated like he was, and rightly so. Everytime people question someone for info they’re bringing, Dunk rushes to the scene and tells them to stop it because “they only post what they’ve been told”. That obviously doesn’t relate to Lecter or Selkirk, because what they were doing was passing on the info they’d been told. So there’s one rule if you agree with Dunk and another if you don’t, and as we shall see, an open debate about it is not accepted on koptalk.
So SenorButch started a new thread about it (because the original one was of course locked).
#521883 – June 16, 2009 23:13 We definatly were not in for johnson
SenorButch SenorButch
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In jan. At least we knew we couldnt get him. Which is what sel had claimed, and by him not signing in Jan was proof he was right.I do belive Sel didnt rule out the transfer ever.
I always thought this site had a kind of good policy to cut some slack on members pacing info on. Clearly not.
Dunken you have got things wrong in the past, shall i call you MUPPET?
out of order that imo.
though i will probably be evicted for making such a thread.
#521885 – June 16, 2009 23:16 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: SenorButch]
StevieJ StevieJ
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I’m with you SenorButch – I was more than a little surprised by Dunc’s post.#521886 – June 16, 2009 23:17 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: SenorButch]
SenorButch SenorButch
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I do belive wallet and informer and any one on here has also got things wrong in the past, are they muppetts to?Of course not. Sel provied us with some good stuff on here and i for one will miss him
#521887 – June 16, 2009 23:18 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: StevieJ]
Easystrider71 Easystrider71
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Originally Posted By: StevieJ
I’m with you SenorButch – I was more than a little surprised by Dunc’s post.I must have missed that one
#521888 – June 16, 2009 23:18 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: SenorButch]
richt71 richt71
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Butch…Dunk didn’t mention selkirk or anyone else. Evicted? Doesn’t that happen on channel 4 Friday nights!#521890 – June 16, 2009 23:21 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: SenorButch]
Naveed Naveed
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Originally Posted By: SenorButch
I do belive wallet and informer and any one on here has also got things wrong in the past, are they muppetts to?Of course not. Sel provied us with some good stuff on here and i for one will miss him
Have I missed something? Is Selkirk no more…?
#521892 – June 16, 2009 23:21 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: richt71]
SenorButch SenorButch
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Originally Posted By: richt71
Butch…Dunk didn’t mention selkirk or anyone else. Evicted? Doesn’t that happen on channel 4 Friday nights!Imo rich it was plain to see who he was talking about. no names needed.
Now i have met sel for a couple of matches now and hes a good lad.
#521893 – June 16, 2009 23:22 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: SenorButch]
richt71 richt71
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Originally Posted By: SenorButch
I do belive wallet and informer and any one on here has also got things wrong in the past, are they muppetts to?Of course not. Sel provied us with some good stuff on here and i for one will miss him
It’s great that anyone posts including selkirk.
#521895 – June 16, 2009 23:23 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: SenorButch]
richt71 richt71
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Originally Posted By: SenorButch
Originally Posted By: richt71
Butch…Dunk didn’t mention selkirk or anyone else. Evicted? Doesn’t that happen on channel 4 Friday nights!Imo rich it was plain to see who he was talking about. no names needed.
Now i have met sel for a couple of matches now and hes a good lad.
I’m sure he is mate. There’s plenty of good lads on here.
#521896 – June 16, 2009 23:24 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: richt71]
SenorButch SenorButch
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Originally Posted By: richt71
Originally Posted By: SenorButch
I do belive wallet and informer and any one on here has also got things wrong in the past, are they muppetts to?Of course not. Sel provied us with some good stuff on here and i for one will miss him
It’s great that anyone posts including selkirk.
That type of thread (dunks one) is what has pushed all the good guys away
#521897 – June 16, 2009 23:25 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: richt71]
SenorButch SenorButch
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Originally Posted By: richt71
Butch…Dunk didn’t mention selkirk or anyone else. Evicted? Doesn’t that happen on channel 4 Friday nights!he also defended it wasnt lec but didnt once mention sel rich.
#521899 – June 16, 2009 23:27 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: richt71]
SenorButch SenorButch
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Originally Posted By: richt71
Originally Posted By: SenorButch
Originally Posted By: richt71
Butch…Dunk didn’t mention selkirk or anyone else. Evicted? Doesn’t that happen on channel 4 Friday nights!Imo rich it was plain to see who he was talking about. no names needed.
Now i have met sel for a couple of matches now and hes a good lad.
I’m sure he is mate. There’s plenty of good lads on here.
there was rich, ive been stuck between a bit of lurking and away on me hols and cant belive what ive come back to.
even you must be able to admit that rich? where has everyone gone?
#521900 – June 16, 2009 23:27 Re: We definatly were not in for johnson [Re: SenorButch]
Choppyman Choppyman
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Originally Posted By: SenorButch
Originally Posted By: richt71
Originally Posted By: SenorButch
I do belive wallet and informer and any one on here has also got things wrong in the past, are they muppetts to?Of course not. Sel provied us with some good stuff on here and i for one will miss him
It’s great that anyone posts including selkirk.
That type of thread (dunks one) is what has pushed all the good guys away
Have to agree with you on this one butch….thought it was well out of line and this site is all the lesser for those posts.
And that was the last said in the thread before it was deleted. I can’t see what justifies this, other than Dunk not wanting an open debate about the way he runs the site. The days of heavy censorship is not over at koptalk. You can only discuss what Dunk sees fit.
SenorButch started a new thread, asking why the first one was deleted, but this was also deleted immediately.
#521904 – June 16, 2009 23:34 where is my thread?
SenorButch SenorButch
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there was nothing wrong with it, it was a discussion. why has it been removed?i notice the one that has a dig against sel is just locked, mine deleted.
Why? i pay to be here i, i deserve my right
Choppyman, who just got into the first thread before it was closed, was not particularly impressed and started a new thread asking why it was deleted:
#521903 – June 16, 2009 23:33 Why the censorship?
Choppyman Choppyman
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Why was SenorButch’s topic deleted but Dunks is allowed to stand….do people not have a right of retort?#521905 – June 16, 2009 23:34 Re: Why the censorship? [Re: Choppyman]
DM DM
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seems to a lot of it going on lately#521906 – June 16, 2009 23:34 Re: Why the censorship? [Re: Choppyman]
Choppyman Choppyman
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It’s easy to slag someone off when there not around to defend themselves?#521908 – June 16, 2009 23:35 Re: Why the censorship? [Re: Choppyman]
SenorButch SenorButch
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choppyman, im al for banter mate. infact i love it, but dunks thread had venom to it imo
Two minutes and it was also deleted. No discussion allowed. Then Dunk made a (closed) thread about the issuse. Those who missed the deleted threads must have been wondering why he made this one:
#521910 – June 16, 2009 23:36 Johnson is definitely not a target – thread
Dunk Dunk
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Earlier today I posted that thread for a particular reason.It was because I recalled someone earlier this year who was disrespecting other posters with claims that they were making. I found their behaviour at the time inconsiderate and rude.
Things change in football and that doesn’t mean someone had bad intent when they posted. However this poster wasn’t just wrong, that is excusable, they were ignorant and off-putting with their tone to ‘genuine’ contributors.
Today I made my post as a swipe at them to try and flush someone out and it worked. If you don’t understand, you don’t really need to.
All you need to know is that I contribute in a manner that always puts the community first and the good people in it. I have zero respect for those who are here to mislead others.
I would suggest the clique gets over it and if anyone has a problem with this or needs clarification, they are more than welcome to email me personally rather than use an agenda to further mislead others.
So he can’t decide if it was one or more posters he was aiming at. But those who had read the discussions earlier in the year knew that it was Selkirk07 and Lecter who was opposing wallet/Dunk. But Dunk denied he was talking about Lecter (probably because he was afraid he’d also leave) later in his original thread. So that leaves us with Selkirk. But as we’ll see later Dunk will deny that as well.
A few more points from Dunk’s statement above: He’s deciding what his paying members needs to know, and he has zero respect for himself. He also says they’re welcome to email him, which translates into “I don’t want an open discussion about this”. There’s also something familiar about the reason he gives for his original post. He wanted to “flush someone out, and it worked”. This is what Dunk says every time he realizes he’s made a mistake and tries to save it by putting on a brave face. Recently he made a video of himself in his pool, bragging about how much money he had, singing “it’s raining money” and more stupid remarks. When I sent out an email to a long list of koptalk members, telling them they should take a look at that video to see where their money went, he quickly closed the moanvideo site and deleted the video. He then made a new video where he claimed he was making the first video to bait his haterz. That just made him look even more stupid.
SenorButch still wasn’t satisfied with the replies he had got, and he wanted to discuss the matter. So he started a new thread that was deleted imediately:
#521911 – June 16, 2009 23:41 lets be adults here
SenorButch SenorButch
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dunk, rich, choppyman, me etc etcim a long serving member and have made good mates here.
lets sort things out here, in the open, friendly like. no cloak and dagger stuff.
i can email you dunk, i know, but a discussion is whats needed here.
what do you say?
He made one more attempt to get into a discussion with Dunk.
#521914 – June 16, 2009 23:49 discussion?
SenorButch SenorButch
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Posts: 15075 Any chance of it. all this emailing and things get lost in translation.No slagging, or bitching, just produntive.
me you, rich, choppyman, nav.
what do you say?
#521916 – June 16, 2009 23:52 Re: discussion? [Re: SenorButch]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7306 An explanation has been given as to why I posted a particular thread today, it was relating to a matter not concerning you. When people create ‘drama’ on the forums not only does it spoil the place for others who are not interested but it also allows for people to post misinformation. If you have questions relating to any decisions or comments I make then the best place to take them up is with myself via email. I have no problem with you posting my emails elsewhere.I only make decisions for the benefit of all the good people here and people have to trust me with that. If they don’t, they shouldn’t be here, they should be one an anti-Dunk site somewhere where they will be welcomed with open arms.
This time Dunk moved the thread to another subforum, made a reply and closed it. Once again he invites SenorButch to send an email, he is even allowing him to post his replies elsewhere (where the koptalk members can’t see it), but he won’t have an open discussion on koptalk. Also he claims to be the good guy, protecting his tender members from the bad guys. They’re not allowed to make up their own minds about the points raised by SenorButch. At the end he is referring to the anti-Dunk sites, as if there are any. This is an anti-koptalk site. We don’t mind what Dunk does as long as he’s not scamming our fellow Liverpool supporters. As for all the various LFC sites, they’re just LFC sites not anti-Dunk sites. But most people on them detest Dunk and koptalk. No wonder when you see how he treats his paying members.
At this point SenorButch was banned from koptalk. As far as I can see he hadn’t done anything but raise a few questions about how Dunk had called selkirk a muppet, and then wanting an open discussion about it. That’s no reason for banning a paying customer. But that’s koptalk for you. If Dunk doesn’t like you, you’re out. No matter how long you’ve paid for.
Another member picked up on the case. He must have been wondering what was going on with all the deleted threads. For some reason Dunk allowed this to go on for a while, tripping himself up a few times along the way, before he decided to close it.
#521917 – June 16, 2009 23:56 What is all this [oops]?
TerryJ TerryJ
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Haven’t posted much lately due to work related issues but logged on tonight with a nice glass of wine to catch up on all things Liverpool.Have to say I am seriously dissapointed with all the slagging off aimed at Selkirk just because he got it wrong about Johnson. Nobody will risk posting info if they are going to get slagged off for it if it turns out to be wrong. And in any case, Johnson hasn’t signed yet and who the feck knows for sure when Rafa became interested in him. Could have been last week?
This is not how a community works and I recommend a few people take a serious look at themselves.
There are obviously underlying issues here that I don’t understand and quite frankly I am not interested, however, I find it condescending when I am told one minute that we should not criticise people who post info in good faith and then the next minute people lay into Selkirk when he is not here to defend himself.
I sincerely hope that Selkirk starts posting again because the guy talks sense and is one of the better posters we have here, but if I were him and I read some of the stuff posted on here today, I would be off on my heels.
#521918 – June 16, 2009 23:58 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
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Did anyone name Selkirk today? How come people think he’s done something wrong? Have I missed something?
Bad mistake Dunk. Everyone and his dog knows that you were talking about selkirk. Denying it now only make it worse for you. Who was it then, if it wasn’t selkirk?
#521920 – June 17, 2009 00:00 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
danperkins danperkins
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Em was this not meant to be a bit of a joke, surely people aren’t taking that original post seriously it was only banter everyone should chill out
Edited by danperkins (June 17, 2009 00:01)
#521921 – June 17, 2009 00:00 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
Choppyman Choppyman
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Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasions
#521922 – June 17, 2009 00:01 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
Dunk Dunk
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Em was this not meant to be a bit of a joke, surely people aren’t taking that post seriously it was only banter everyone should chill outDepends on the person’s motives for posting (althought that may not apply here)
#521923 – June 17, 2009 00:01 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Choppyman]
Dunk Dunk
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Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI suggest you read my post about it again. That wasn’t the case or the reason. Please do catch up.
Yes it was. You slagged of Selkirk for posting what he had heard from his sources.
#521924 – June 17, 2009 00:03 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
danperkins danperkins
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Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Em was this not meant to be a bit of a joke, surely people aren’t taking that post seriously it was only banter everyone should chill outDepends on the person’s motives for posting (althought that may not apply here)
Dunno why alot of people are jumping on the bandwagon here, there’s loads of banter flying around koptalk every day, i dunno if there’s something else going on but i just took the whole Johnson thingy as a laugh
You obviously missed the threads posted above here.
#521925 – June 17, 2009 00:03 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
Choppyman Choppyman
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Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI suggest you read my post about it again. That wasn’t the case or the reason. Please do catch up.
No need for that
Indeed not!
#521926 – June 17, 2009 00:04 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Choppyman]
danperkins danperkins
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Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI’m not taking any sides but i thought it was a joke
No, it wasn’t.
#521927 – June 17, 2009 00:05 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
TerryJ TerryJ
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Well one word answer Dunc, who was the “Muppet” that you were referring to? OK it can be a 2, 3, 4 or 5 word answer if his name consists of more than one word.I like Selkirk, I am pretty sure it was aimed at him.
It was, but Dunk will never admit it. The fact that he can’t come up with another name proves it.
#521928 – June 17, 2009 00:06 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
TerryJ TerryJ
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Loc: Liverpool Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI’m not taking any sides but i thought it was a joke
It could have been a joke, but the use of the word Muppet persuades me otherwise.
#521929 – June 17, 2009 00:07 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Choppyman]
Dunk Dunk
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Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI suggest you read my post about it again. That wasn’t the case or the reason. Please do catch up.
No need for that
Sorry but you’re pulling me up for something that you are wrong about. I’m suggesting you read what I posted before involving yourself in something you know nothing about. It’s not meant to be rude, just to the point.
He is a paying member who’s in his right to say what he feels about this. And he is right about it as well. You haven’t managed to prove otherwise yet, and you won’t. You were calling selkirk a muppet and you can’t admit it even though the proof is there for all to see.
#521930 – June 17, 2009 00:07 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
Choppyman Choppyman
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We can all take a joke on here but that just came out nasty
#521932 – June 17, 2009 00:08 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
Choppyman Choppyman
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Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI suggest you read my post about it again. That wasn’t the case or the reason. Please do catch up.
No need for that
Sorry but you’re pulling me up for something that you are wrong about. I’m suggesting you read what I posted before involving yourself in something you know nothing about. It’s not meant to be rude, just to the point.
Then explain what you meant? because it di come across rude
#521933 – June 17, 2009 00:08 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
danperkins danperkins
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Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: TerryJ
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI’m not taking any sides but i thought it was a joke
It could have been a joke, but the use of the word Muppet persuades me otherwise.
Depends on what way it was meant mate ya know, sure if you read any of the threads on koptalk people do be slagging each other off, the word muppet isnt exactly that offensive, i posted on that thread and i was having a laugh too as i assumed it was a harmless thread purely aimed for some banter.
Edited by danperkins (June 17, 2009 00:09)
You were having a laugh, but Dunk wasn’t. He was gloating over the fact that he/wallet had said Liverpool was interested in Johnson, while selkirk and lecter said we weren’t. And with the recent media reports he felt it was a done deal.
#521934 – June 17, 2009 00:08 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Choppyman]
Dunk Dunk
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We can all take a joke on here but that just came out nastyI was pulling up someone who was nasty to others. I was defending the good people. People need to get a grip as I always only post in the best interests of the majority here.
Who then?
#521935 – June 17, 2009 00:09 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 Originally Posted By: danperkinsDepends on what way it was meant mate ya know, sure if you read any of the threads on koptalk people do be slagging each other off, the word muppet isnt exactly that offensive, i posted on that thread and i was having a laugh too as i assumed it was a harmless thread purely aimed for some banter.
It was a bit of fun but the internet police didn’t see if that way.
Anyway, why do people think Sel’s a muppet?
People doesn’t think he’s a muppet. It was you who said that.
#521936 – June 17, 2009 00:10 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
danperkins danperkins
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Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: danperkinsDepends on what way it was meant mate ya know, sure if you read any of the threads on koptalk people do be slagging each other off, the word muppet isnt exactly that offensive, i posted on that thread and i was having a laugh too as i assumed it was a harmless thread purely aimed for some banter.
It was a bit of fun but the internet police didn’t see if that way.
Anyway, why do people think Sel’s a muppet?
Selk dishes out serious banter and takes it so i don’t know why people would think he’d take offense to it, thats even if it was about him?
Banter is one thing. What Dunk did was another. Selkirk wasn’t around to defend himself.
#521937 – June 17, 2009 00:11 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
TerryJ TerryJ
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Loc: Liverpool Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: TerryJ
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI’m not taking any sides but i thought it was a joke
It could have been a joke, but the use of the word Muppet persuades me otherwise.
Depends on what way it was meant mate ya know, sure if you read any of the threads on koptalk people do be slagging each other off, the word muppet isnt exactly that offensive, i posted on that thread and i was having a laugh too as i assumed it was a harmless thread purely aimed for some banter.
I read your post and I took that as harmless banter, not having a go at you mate I just think there is some underlying nastiness that has no place here.
#521938 – June 17, 2009 00:12 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
Dunk Dunk
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I just think there is some underlying nastiness that has no place here.which is exactly what i was addressing
Was it? Why didn’t you say so.
#521939 – June 17, 2009 00:13 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
danperkins danperkins
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Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: TerryJ
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: TerryJ
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: Choppyman
Selkirk or not ir doesn’t matter…you were slagging someone off for posting what they thought was information for the community. This is something you have spoken against on many ocasionsI’m not taking any sides but i thought it was a joke
It could have been a joke, but the use of the word Muppet persuades me otherwise.
Depends on what way it was meant mate ya know, sure if you read any of the threads on koptalk people do be slagging each other off, the word muppet isnt exactly that offensive, i posted on that thread and i was having a laugh too as i assumed it was a harmless thread purely aimed for some banter.
I read your post and I took that as harmless banter, not having a go at you mate I just think there is some underlying nastiness that has no place here.
Does anyone actually know who the post was aimed at?? If it was Selk he’s well able for the banter, i do agree that the whole nastiness issue has no place on koptalk but IMO i just didn’t see it that way.
It was aimed at Selkirk. Everyone knew it was Lecter and Selkirk who claimed Johnson wasn’t a target, and Dunk denied it was Lecter but said nothing about Selkirk.
#521940 – June 17, 2009 00:14 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
DM DM
KopTalk VIPRegistered: January 24, 2007
Posts: 452
Loc: Ireland has butch decided to leave then
No. He was banned for asking questions.
#521941 – June 17, 2009 00:14 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 Sel’s been on today, a few hours ago. I guess he didn’t see anything wrong. I still don’t see how people think it was about Sel?
So you are now admitting that Selkirk is lurking. Seems to fit with the one you called a muppet then? Maybe he didn’t see that post. After all it was a bit down the page as it was locked hours before.
#521942 – June 17, 2009 00:15 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: DM]
danperkins danperkins
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Posts: 4863
Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: DM
has butch decided to leave thenOh it was Butch!! Haven’t heard from him in ages thought he was gone
No it wasn’t Butch. He left a long time ago, but he still had access as his membership hadn’t run out. Asking a few awkward questions hastened his departure though.
#521943 – June 17, 2009 00:15 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
danperkins danperkins
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Posts: 4863
Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: Dunk
Sel’s been on today, a few hours ago. I guess he didn’t see anything wrong. I still don’t see how people think it was about Sel?Yup thought as much
How did you know he was online? There’s no “Who’s online” page.
#521944 – June 17, 2009 00:17 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: DM]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 Originally Posted By: DM
has butch decided to leave thenSteve’s contacted him… he was due to leave for pastures new so there’s no shock there. Friends like to be together, nothing wrong with that
Due to leave? He had left. No posts for more than a month..
#521945 – June 17, 2009 00:17 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
richt71 richt71
KopTalk VIPRegistered: July 09, 2003
Posts: 29019 Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: DM
has butch decided to leave thenOh it was Butch!! Haven’t heard from him in ages thought he was gone
You just missed him Dan!
Obviously.
#521946 – June 17, 2009 00:18 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
drogred drogred
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Posts: 2509
Loc: Drogheda, Co Louth, Ireland
Selk was out of order before, not so much to wallet but more to Legin if I remember correctly, claiming that his “source” had left the club and so on.Look, for Gods sake we are ll big boys and girls here, I don’t know why anyone gets their knickers in a twist over a thread on an internet forum anyway.
Yes, we all like coming here and we all like a bit of craic and a bit of banter. Someone was unnecessarily out of order a couple of months ago and got pulled up on it today for being a bit of a know-it-all, it happens everyday in every walk of life. Selk is a big boy and more than capable of either defending himself or putting his hands up and admitting he was wrong.
It now transpires it was to do with Butch (I think), so Ive no idea what is going on!
No it doesn’t. But you are excused. You didn’t see what happened.
#521947 – June 17, 2009 00:18 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
TerryJ TerryJ
KopTalk VIPRegistered: November 01, 2006
Posts: 1771
Loc: Liverpool Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: TerryJ
I just think there is some underlying nastiness that has no place here.which is exactly what i was addressing
Dunk, I don’t bother trying to find these sites that you claim are Koptalk haters as I don’t have the time or inclination, therefore I don’t have the knowledge to read through these cat and mouse games that get played out on here.
All I can go on is this:
“no wonder the muppet doesn’t *post here any more
Dunk knows best
* but still lurks”
I am 100% certain that the “Muppet” you are referring to is Selkirk and if you deny it then you are insulting my intelligence.
All I want to know is why you are displaying such double standards in slagging him off so nastily when you yourself posted a while ago warning people not to do the same.
You’re right, but Dunk won’t admit it. It was aimed at Selkirk. Don’t take any more of the insults. Join a better, free site and see how a community actually can be. (If you haven’t already).
#521948 – June 17, 2009 00:18 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: DM
has butch decided to leave thenOh it was Butch!! Haven’t heard from him in ages thought he was gone
it wasn’t aimed at butch if you mean that… i was trying to flush a few out to see if they’d bite… and they did.
No, it wasn’t aimed at Butch, but he was the one who responded. Who were you trying to flush out, and how come it worked when in fact it was SenorButch who responded and it wasn’t aimed at him? This isn’t easy to understand Dunk. You make yourself look like a fool now. Or should I say a liar?
#521949 – June 17, 2009 00:18 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: richt71]
danperkins danperkins
KopTalk VIPRegistered: April 17, 2008
Posts: 4863
Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: richt71
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: DM
has butch decided to leave thenOh it was Butch!! Haven’t heard from him in ages thought he was gone
You just missed him Dan!
Ok cheers dude
#521950 – June 17, 2009 00:20 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
danperkins danperkins
KopTalk VIPRegistered: April 17, 2008
Posts: 4863
Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: DM
has butch decided to leave thenOh it was Butch!! Haven’t heard from him in ages thought he was gone
it wasn’t aimed at butch if you mean that… i was trying to flush a few out to see if they’d bite… and they did.
They certainly did, ah i personally think if the trouble was all about that thread i just think its been massively blown out of proportion. Its a Football thread nobody should be getting offended by anything said on it
Didthey? Who? I didn’t see it.
#521951 – June 17, 2009 00:21 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 Originally Posted By: TerryJI am 100% certain that the “Muppet” you are referring to is Selkirk and if you deny it then you are insulting my intelligence.
Please stop insinuating that Sel is a muppet. Unless you can read my mind you have no idea what i was doing when I made that post. It was made in defence of the community here and that will always be the case as far as I’m concerned. I would never post anything bad at a good member but I will defend good members when others think it’s ok to attack them.
So who was the muppet then? If it wasn’t Selkirk or Lecter, I can’t see who it was. Neither can those who responded to your thread. Everybody though it had to be one of them.
But you just called a good member a muppet. This doesn’t add up. Maybe you thought noone would react at that, especially since the one in question (Selkirk) had left?
#521952 – June 17, 2009 00:22 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
JD JD
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KopTalk VIPRegistered: December 12, 2004
Posts: 24706 Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: TerryJI am 100% certain that the “Muppet” you are referring to is Selkirk and if you deny it then you are insulting my intelligence.
Please stop insinuating that Sel is a muppet. Unless you can read my mind you have no idea what i was doing when I made that post. It was made in defence of the community here and that will always be the case as far as I’m concerned. I would never post anything bad at a good member but I will defend good members when others think it’s ok to attack them.
I am a muppet and proud to be one
We know that. I donæt think you’ll many who will disagree with you.
#521953 – June 17, 2009 00:23 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: JD]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 me too
#521954 – June 17, 2009 00:24 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
TerryJ TerryJ
KopTalk VIPRegistered: November 01, 2006
Posts: 1771
Loc: Liverpool Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: TerryJI am 100% certain that the “Muppet” you are referring to is Selkirk and if you deny it then you are insulting my intelligence.
Please stop insinuating that Sel is a muppet. Unless you can read my mind you have no idea what i was doing when I made that post. It was made in defence of the community here and that will always be the case as far as I’m concerned. I would never post anything bad at a good member but I will defend good members when others think it’s ok to attack them.
That’s were you have lost me. who was being attacked and who, if not Selkirk, was the “Muppet” doing the attacking?
You won’t get an answer to this question mate. It was Selkirk. Everyone knows, but Dunk won’t admit it.
#521956 – June 17, 2009 00:27 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325
I’ve never seen Sel attack anyone? No more than others give anyway. I know he’s chosen to lurk these days but that’s his call, just like some have chosen their usernames (and we have 15 more to approve!).Fully grown men getting caught up in internet boll*cks that they don’t actually know about. I just want to bang heads together.
People should trust the admin/mods to moderate the site with everyone’s best intentions the only factor. We shoudn’t have to justify our decisions or our posts when pulling people up and if people really do have sincere questions then can contact me or Steve any time.
Silly season? You bet
so why did you call him a muppet? He’s not chosen to lurk. He has left for another site.
15 more members? Where did they go? They haven’t shown up yet, and this was three days ago.
#521957 – June 17, 2009 00:27 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
danperkins danperkins
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Posts: 4863
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
Well when the Johnson thread originally came out there was few people saying we were interested and others dismissing them (2 names, you know who)and they were very rude to Wallet in particular,he got ostracised and to be fair to him he was very mature about it and didn’t say much and they turned the thread into a bit of a pissing contest. Maybe they’ll eat some humble pie if Johnson signs but a bit of egg on their face isn’t the end of the world. Lets just chill out and move on
Edited by danperkins (June 17, 2009 00:28)
Correct danperkins. Two names. Lecter and Selkirk. They weren’t rude as I see it. They claimed their sources said we weren’t interested.
#521958 – June 17, 2009 00:29 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 Originally Posted By: danperkins
Well when the Johnson thread originally came out there was few people saying we were interested and others dismissing them (2 names, you know who)and they were very rude to Wallet in particular,he got ostracised and to be fair to him he was very mature about it and didn’t say much and they turned the thread into a bit of a pissing contest. Maybe they’ll eat some humble pie if Johnson signs but a bit of egg on their face isn’t the end of the world.You have a better memory than me lol.
Doesn’t take much to have a better memory than you Dunk. You are able to forget what you said in the start of a setence and contradict it in the end.
#521960 – June 17, 2009 00:30 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
TerryJ TerryJ
KopTalk VIPRegistered: November 01, 2006
Posts: 1771
Loc: Liverpool Originally Posted By: danperkins
Well when the Johnson thread originally came out there was few people saying we were interested and others dismissing them (2 names, you know who)and they were very rude to Wallet in particular,he got ostracised and to be fair to him he was very mature about it and didn’t say much and they turned the thread into a bit of a pissing contest. Maybe they’ll eat some humble pie if Johnson signs but a bit of egg on their face isn’t the end of the world. Lets just chill out and move onI can’t recall that thread at all, must have been when I was away on holiday.
#521961 – June 17, 2009 00:31 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
drogred drogred
KopTalk VIPRegistered: August 06, 2007
Posts: 2509
Loc: Drogheda, Co Louth, Ireland
You’re so innocent Dunk! Like pastry wouldnt melt in your mouth!
Good call.
#521962 – June 17, 2009 00:33 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
danperkins danperkins
KopTalk VIPRegistered: April 17, 2008
Posts: 4863
Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Well when the Johnson thread originally came out there was few people saying we were interested and others dismissing them (2 names, you know who)and they were very rude to Wallet in particular,he got ostracised and to be fair to him he was very mature about it and didn’t say much and they turned the thread into a bit of a pissing contest. Maybe they’ll eat some humble pie if Johnson signs but a bit of egg on their face isn’t the end of the world.You have a better memory than me lol.
Ah i remember it vividly cause i felt really sorry for wallet at the time. But sure i think this has been blown massively out of proportion, people need to take a step back and realize that if we didn’t have the banter we do on koptalk it’d be boring
#521963 – June 17, 2009 00:34 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
danperkins danperkins
KopTalk VIPRegistered: April 17, 2008
Posts: 4863
Loc: Dublin, Ireland Originally Posted By: TerryJ
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Well when the Johnson thread originally came out there was few people saying we were interested and others dismissing them (2 names, you know who)and they were very rude to Wallet in particular,he got ostracised and to be fair to him he was very mature about it and didn’t say much and they turned the thread into a bit of a pissing contest. Maybe they’ll eat some humble pie if Johnson signs but a bit of egg on their face isn’t the end of the world. Lets just chill out and move onI can’t recall that thread at all, must have been when I was away on holiday.
You lucky git going on holidays
#521965 – June 17, 2009 00:36 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: drogred]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 Originally Posted By: drogred
You’re so innocent Dunk! Like pastry wouldnt melt in your mouth!
(there were just a couple of smileys in that post)
#521966 – June 17, 2009 00:37 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: danperkins]
Dunk Dunk
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KopTalk VIPRegistered: July 21, 2007
Posts: 7325 Originally Posted By: danperkins
Originally Posted By: Dunk
Originally Posted By: danperkins
Well when the Johnson thread originally came out there was few people saying we were interested and others dismissing them (2 names, you know who)and they were very rude to Wallet in particular,he got ostracised and to be fair to him he was very mature about it and didn’t say much and they turned the thread into a bit of a pissing contest. Maybe they’ll eat some humble pie if Johnson signs but a bit of egg on their face isn’t the end of the world.You have a better memory than me lol.
Ah i remember it vividly cause i felt really sorry for wallet at the time. But sure i think this has been blown massively out of proportion, people need to take a step back and realize that if we didn’t have the banter we do on koptalk it’d be boring
he’s actually just posted… that thread will be fun over the next 24 hours
How convenient. All of a sudden wallet pops up and gloat, just like Dunk, about his Johnson info.
#521968 – June 17, 2009 00:38 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
TerryJ TerryJ
KopTalk VIPRegistered: November 01, 2006
Posts: 1771
Loc: Liverpool Originally Posted By: DunkPeople should trust the admin/mods to moderate the site with everyone’s best intentions the only factor. We shoudn’t have to justify our decisions or our posts when pulling people up and if people really do have sincere questions then can contact me or Steve any time.
Silly season? You bet
Dan has given me the answer as to what this is all about, however I totally disagree with what you have written there.
It is healthy to brings things out in the open and discuss them freely and what’s wrong with justifying your actions when it concerns people we have come to know and like.
I’m off to bed.
Things will never be brought out in the open on koptalk.
#521970 – June 17, 2009 00:38 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: Dunk]
Dunk Dunk
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I’m gonna wind this thread down now. Sorry if I offended anyone. It wasn’t my intention, just sometimes we (the admins) know more than the posters and it’s good to have a bit of banter every now and then. Yes I was sticking up for people but I was trying to flush some out and it worked. I expect more responses in due course
Who did you flush out? I didn’t see anyone, exept SenorButch but you said it wasn’t him.
#521971 – June 17, 2009 00:39 Re: What is all this [oops]? [Re: TerryJ]
Dunk Dunk
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Posts: 7325 Originally Posted By: TerryJ
Originally Posted By: DunkPeople should trust the admin/mods to moderate the site with everyone’s best intentions the only factor. We shoudn’t have to justify our decisions or our posts when pulling people up and if people really do have sincere questions then can contact me or Steve any time.
Silly season? You bet
Dan has given me the answer as to what this is all about, however I totally disagree with what you have written there.
It is healthy to brings things out in the open and discuss them freely and what’s wrong with justifying your actions when it concerns people we have come to know and like.
I’m off to bed.
Dan has given an answer which he thinks my post was about. If people want to ask me questions they have my email address. The reason I oppose such on the forums is because people often post misinformation or didn’t know the full facts, as you admitted yourself as you may have been away on holiday
And then the thread was closed. Again Dunk wouldn’t have more discussion about the matter. He never managed to tell who he was calling a muppet, but it was clear all the way that it was Selkirk. The first reply in the original thread was this, and from there on everyone assumed it was Lecter or Selkirk:
#521507 – June 16, 2009 12:16 Re: “we are definitely not in for Johnson” [Re: Dunk]
RedDom RedDom
KopTalk VIPRegistered: August 08, 2007
Posts: 393
Loc: Isle of Wight
Do you mean Lecter or Selkirk? Haven’t seen either of them for a while.
And you stated it was not about Lecter. But you never said it wasn’t about Selkirk. At least not until much later in another thread. It was too late then. And still there is no explanation about who he was talking about or who he was trying to flush out.
I’ve just read through the Johnson-threads to make sure my memory served me right, and I couldn’t find any attacks on wallet at all. There were disagreements but no attacks. I’ll just end this with a statement from Dunk in the thread where Johnson was discussed in May. Did anyone mention double standards?
Just because one source says something and another says something else doesn’t mean one person contributing is posting in bad faith.
I have little time for these ‘I’m in the know’ threads. Post what you want to share and let people digest themselves. I think if we need to question anyone that should be left up to me as I have no time for pretenders.
Things change, you’re probably all right.
Let’s not lose good people by making them justify themselves every time they post. If you don’t believe someone, just say “Thanks but I don’t believe YOUR source (not you)”. Then everyone is happy.
June 18, 2009 at 4:10 am
People pay him for this! I don’t understand how anyone could not know about other free sites, I guess part of it is that some people become precious about their post count. If they go to a new site they start from scratch but fuck me handing over cash to this conman beggars belief when there is so much info on him.
Thanks for sharing k_o, very entertaining.
June 18, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Two words….. siege mentality
June 18, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Has anyone tried to claim back subs after being banned? I’m sure he can’t legally do that, even with those very vague terms and conditions he uses (which would never stand up in court).
Raising a dispute with Paypal should do it I think. If enough peopel do that his standing will be brought into question and eventually his permission to use the service revoked (rather than invoked eh fatboy?)
Just a suggestion
June 18, 2009 at 12:38 pm
On another note, just watched his latest ‘revenue-generating’ vid on his video sharing website and am finding it amusing.
Am I wrong in wanting some of those dickheads on there to donate money and lose it all?
It may mean he leaves us Liverpool fans alone.
June 18, 2009 at 2:11 pm
What a complete twat Dunk is. I claimed back subs after being banned though.
Had 63 days left and he gave me £4.49 back.
June 18, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Did you do it through Paypal?
If people do it through Paypal rather than direct it will give them an indication of the type of business he is conducting and will raise their suspicions.
June 19, 2009 at 3:21 pm
No I didnt. He banned me and I raised a ticket in his support system asking for re-instatement or my money back.
It was back in 2007 though.
June 19, 2009 at 4:51 pm
And to think people pay for the privledge.
June 19, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Ste, surely you banned yourself
June 19, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I hope Dunk keeps his dictator style up because he will have another mass exodus if he does. No way to run a website. £30 quid and you get no inside info and you cannot discuss anything that he does not want you to.
June 20, 2009 at 12:15 am
Post updated with the rest of the thread made by TerryJ.
June 20, 2009 at 5:47 am
Dunk, I thought a medical was pencilled in for last monday or tuesday ?
No better way to take the heat off and create a smokescreen by calling your members muppets.
Dunk knows best eh ?
You also commented that you know Dave Maddock. Funny that, cos I talk to Dave and he has no idea who you are.
He does now and is interested in your scams of Liverpool fans.
June 20, 2009 at 11:07 am
FT SCORE: Revo 1-0 Dunk
Match Report Revo comtinues to kick Dunks ass [both of them]
June 20, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Pay attention kop. It’s more like 10-0.
June 20, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Let’s make it 11 – 0 and add Dunc’s cousin Kate Oldham into the mix. Dunc has remade his cousin into a girlfriend. Her hair has been changed to brunette, Kate Oldham’s Twitter has been locked down and her blog is in decay.
In reverse Kate Couzins appears. Having her own twitter, and failed web site, katiecouzins.com. You can find her earlier circa 2006 image at Koptalkinsider.
Its the irony of using Couzins has a phony last name that makes this 11 – 0 a true “V” for victory.
June 20, 2009 at 8:37 pm
by the way dunk all your talk of the rag being relevant to signings, I thought maybe you should be clued a little bit
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheMightyWah
stop posting links to the rag, yeh fat prick, you are disrepecting our brothers and sisters
June 22, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Somewhat of a surprise that Dunk didn’t give advance notice that his long search for a replacement for Rick Parry was over and that an announcement was imminent. Tom and George did, after all, personally request that Dunk find one, right?
July 1, 2009 at 9:44 pm
the fukwits at it again – trying to con people he has a Merc when in fact he has fuck all!
Look fatwit.\, anyone can hire a car drive it to someone else’s drive way and make a friggin video.
Your brain dead half brother and the half wits on Moarshite may fall for this but the rest of the planet doesn’t.
July 3, 2009 at 10:24 pm
How do his members think he supports himself ? do they feel alright that their hard earned money supports his existance. especially when anything koptalk provides, can be found for free on other Liverpool sites.
July 3, 2009 at 10:28 pm
To be fair. You won’t find Dunk’s lies elsewhere though.
July 8, 2009 at 6:04 am
Dunk one of your members forwarded this to me.
The informer (flmao)
“I had to sign in from work to tell you about this ! I only found out myself a few hours ago .
Up until yesterday Liverpool were in talks with Valencia regarding three of their players. Juan Mata, David Villa and David Silva.
Each deal was very, very complicated and only 1 or possibly 2 could proceed for various reasons. We were never going to sign all 3.
The money for Villa would have been there if Real Madrid were to pay the asking price for Xabi Alonso. One condition of the deal to sell Alonso to Real Madrid was that they had to end all interest in David Villa this summer. Real turned to Karim Benzema but Liverpool had to sign an agreement that Real had first refusal on Alonso over Barcelona. That is in place as far as I am aware.
If Barcelona then bought Mascherano, Liverpool would emerge as favourites to sign Villa but the deal would be cash plus Riera to free up Juan Mata to be sold ( to any club ). Liverpool could still fund a move for Villa if Mascherano stayed but it could prove difficult as Barcelona also want him and yesterday they were still favorites.
Benitez has spoken about Mata but is considered over priced. Mata has also expressed an interest in us and Benitez is aware of that.
Silva is the easiest of the 3 options both financially and availability wise but there is a concern regarding rumours of a minor knock on his right ankle.
There has been a huge number of calls between Real, Barcelona, Valencia and Liverpool concerning all of the players named above.
Things were going smoothly from Liverpool’s point of view until Vicente Soriano took control of the club again this week. His consortium has pledged 500 million euros to clear Valencia’s debts within days and all transfer negotiations with all clubs have now been placed on hold. This means Valencia would no longer be in debt.
What I’m hearing this afternoon is that if Villa is taken off the market, then a bid for Forlan could be tabled before the weekend.
In the last week Liverpool have been in talks with more than 10 clubs across Europe.
Rafael has held out due to the Valencia situation but with the massive change there, he now has to ask himself if he should hold out longer or consider other options.
If he closes the door on Valencia you can expect a host of new players to be mentioned with us as the weekend approaches.”
Let your blag sources know that everytime they post something, I am going to post it here. see you on moar video big fella
July 8, 2009 at 6:03 pm
I can confirm that the post above is so full of bullshit that not even Alex Ferguson’s shit-stopper-keks could stop it.
Liverpool haven’t signed anything with Real. Xabi wants to go, Real want him to join – but Real don’t want to pay the asking price. Xabi hasn’t burned his bridges in public yet, but it’s surely only a matter of time before the truth about his relationship with Real comes out.
July 8, 2009 at 10:39 pm
and just one small fact is that Liverpool have not given Alonso permission to speak with Real. so how can the deal be done? If Real have spoken with him direct there would be hell to pay.
And does he really think that Real would agree to end their pursuit of Villa because we told them to? How do you write that in a contract?
The fact that he posts the twaddle and the morons that pay him money believe it says a lot about them dont you think?
July 9, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Another one has left..
5EuropeanCups
July 9, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Tells me he was double dipped
July 9, 2009 at 8:08 pm
You’re right.
Thought I had that thread where he said he was leaving. Must be at work.
July 9, 2009 at 10:56 pm
This is dunks explanation of some rules for the site
Sometimes people try to promote their own LFC site. Now I have no problem with a member doing that if they’re genuine etc but my experience is that they do so to try and recruit from here.
If you say “you can’t promote your LFC site” they say “well how come some LFC sites are allowed”. So following months of arguing with people about this we introduced a simple no linking rule to stop people crying.
All official and mainstream media sites are allowed. If in doubt a mod would remove anyway.
While we also don’t allow linking to other LFC sites, we also don’t allow people to criticise other LFC sites so it’s not just about stopping promotion. It’s just an easy format that has worked for years now.
In Other words, he does not want us visiting other sites for fear of losing his subs. I have opened support tickets asking where I can find 3 other members and have yet to recieve a reply.
Everytime a thread is opened asking about the whereabouts of a member it gets locked and yet we get no answer from a support ticket. Now I hear 5 european D cups has left as well ?. Oh dear
July 9, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Why would anyone want to recruit members from KT? Koptalk is the only istethat actually bothers about the number of members, because it’s the only site tat makes money from it. All other sites are about discussing LFC, football or other stuff. Koptalk’s all about the money.
July 10, 2009 at 3:46 pm
More shite form koptalk
The InformerEarlier this year we made an inquiry regarding Ribery. The price quoted was extremely high and out of our budget. But if Alonso and Mascherano were sold the money would be available to fund a move. I think ive spoke about this before.
I spoke to club officials today and they said that Rafael had already made significant progress for a similar type of player and that we had made no formal or informal attempt to approach Ribery, his agent or his club.
There is a financial payment for an incoming signing that has been agreed. That money will be transferred to a holding account pending authorisation to wire it. I will not know how much will be moved until Monday at noon but the size of the payment should give some idea as to the valuation of the player.
Liverpool agents will be in Italy over the weekend. Note they are agents and not official figures from the club. This suggests preliminary talks with another club or player’s agent before anything steps up and becomes official.
Clubs usually use 3rd party agents so that they can deny making an approach themselves. The same applies with the opposite club, if they are aware of such movements. It is a way of bending the rules.
WALLET
Hi
My contact has just got back to me and is as baffled as anyone about the Ribery talk.
What I was told is that Hamsik is now on the short list (not sure where he plays but he’s meant to be a good prospect at only 22). No mention of fees etc but apparently agents are meeting to discuss a potential move over the weekend.
We’re still holding on Silva but apparently the money is there at the price they want.
I think Rafa is waiting to see the outcome of Alonso / Masch (I believe Masch will agree to stay).
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
July 11, 2009 at 2:37 pm
So Dunk(Wallet and Informer) is mentioning enough names and hoping we sign one and then he says I told you so.
He never really comes up with a suprise name but always the ones in the media. Did he have a clue about Mavinga? A poster on RAWK did a week before hand. If he had sources in the club he would know that. Last year, had he any idea of Ngog and Cavalieri? No chance.
July 11, 2009 at 4:23 pm
a payment will be sent to a holding account pending authorisation to send?? who is authorising the payment to the holding account then?, it sounds like a fucking paypal transaction, haha. if the transfer is agreed, why do we not just send it to the club in question? Bull shit!
why would the informer know everything about how and when the payment is being sent, but not know the player. retarded.
Did dunk skype the club officials from his box in spain whilst having a high level meeting with the devlopers for his $1500 a month moan video site
July 11, 2009 at 6:36 pm
its the same pattern from dunk, smoke and mirrors. you cover every possible angle and if something hits, there is always one sap that steps up to thank him.
In other news, he his beating the drum again about how no one gets a wage but food gets on the table blah bla blah.
dunk its one thing that you dont respect yourself but have some respect for the Liverpool fans that you call ” family” . As a site owner myself, I know all about the costs for running a site and you are making a mockery of yourself. worst than that, much worst, you are fleecing the good fans of our club by self promoting your site as some type of cozy home (for a fee) when in fact you are running a business that subsidizes you and your lapdog steves existence in spain.
Talking of steve, lets examine that for a minute. nobody recieves a wage ? steve has never had a job,lives in spain and is able to travel back and forth to england. how do you explain that ? Like I said, everytime you open your gob, you make a mockery of yourself.
for the record, Ive got no problem with anyone making a living but you are worse than a ticket tout. you prey on the nieve and then pass some of us off as” jealous and haterz”
jealous of what ? that we are not banished to live a life in exile (the taxman DOES await you) As for hating,you are on to something there. you are a despicable liar that doesnt have a shred of transparacy as you continue to fleece reds.
I have also asked for your membership to SOS to be rescindered and I would encourage any other union members who read the blog to let your feelings be known. The premise being, that he doesnt care about the welfare of this club or its fans but continues to fleece fellow reds in the name of something thats not. The union needs to distance itself from looking like it would even remotely endorse this pig.
If any koptalkers are reading this blog, feel free to ask Koptalk Outsider for my addy and I will help you get hooked up and get you introductions on other forums, the ones that exist for spreading the word of LFC and not for profit.
July 11, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Dunks time as a LFC fraudster must surely be coming to an end. The man is scum. Im one of the guys he misslead for years on koptalk. hes a lieing thieving git.
the only thing unique about his site is it will cost you.
kontalk is a site puposly set up to tale from inocent naive , but good Liverpool fans.
July 11, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Hello good LFC FANS, I Cant belive i belong to this Forum. I most certainly Will not be continueing my subs with this site.
I must admit i thought dunk smelt a bit fishy a while ago what with all the compotitions he runs, without having a winner.
Thank goodness for the Koptalk outsider.
July 11, 2009 at 7:47 pm
wow 5 cups has left…..someone tell Fabio and dave 100 to comeover to St …….
July 11, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Dunk
You wont come over for the manc game and get the ale in like you say, something “will come up” and You will make some excuse. If you do visit, you will not publish any details of what pub you will be in and you certainly wont have any interaction with any members.
July 11, 2009 at 8:30 pm
dunks latest :
Liverpool v united fancy a pint ? I’m coming over for this game so if you fancy a pint (I’ll get em in) over the weekend, email me and we’ll hook up
(WHY EMAIL DUNK, HAVE AN OPEN KOPTALK MEMBER MEET UP, LIKE EVERY OTHER SITE DOES)
dave100 says if you turn up I will buy your beer all day
(OBVIOUSLY CALLING DUNK ON IT)
dunks reply :
Now now, I’ll hold you to that. I’ve met loads of lads from KopTalk. I even invited a handful to my wedding at Anfield. Used to be in the Flat Iron before every game but as I got older I got more sensible, especially as I tend to have the kids with me.
(I KNOW QUITE A FEW EX KOPTALKERS AND NOT ONE CAN EVER RECALL A MEET UP WITH YOU, EXCEPT JD MAYBE)
As I stated earlier dunk, everytime you open up that blubbering kipper of yours, lies just flow and you make a mockery of yourself.
July 11, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Dunk hasn’t been to Anfield for yeas, and he certainly wont be there the coming season either. He doesn’t dare, and you can’t blame him for that. If you have conned as many people as Dunk has, you know you’re about to get a good beating if you turn up on their playground. He’d be lucky to get away alive from there.
July 12, 2009 at 5:05 am
Despite what Dunk claims rumors have it he moved to UK recently cause he ran out of money. Dunk will have videos claiming different let’s see him show a news paper with a date on it. Knowing Dunk, he’ll probably buy the S!n and use it instead of a real paper.
LFC fans can live without Dunk. Dunk can’t live without LFC fans to fleece.
July 13, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I hear the same thing – he is back in the UK and trying to throw out a smoke screen with the odd recycled video from benidorm. Has anyone noiticed that there are zero videos showing anything other than his bloated face?
My guess is that he is back in he North East….
July 13, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Its already Monday evening dunk, erm I mean Informer. what happened to the money in the holding account for a incoming player ?
July 13, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Got to feel sorry for the mods there aswell.
They are so disillusioned they cant see Dunk for what he is.
Most have never met dunk, and have never recieved anyhting from him for all the hard work that they have put in.
As for dunk going to Anfield and meeting up with some members. Aint going to happen. I remember a member was once out in spain and close to where Dunk was staying. the poor guy, couldnt get a response from dunk for love nor money. (actually money probably would have done it) All he wanted to do was meet up and have a beer, and put a face to name of a fellow fan.
That member has thankfully now seen the light and left.
July 14, 2009 at 8:40 am
#538558 – July 14, 2009 08:23 A little bit of this, a little bit of that
Dunk Dunk
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Registered: July 21, 2007
Posts: 7732 * Barcelona refusing to meet €30m asking price for Javier Mascherano.
* If Mascherano accepts he cannot instigate his transfer to Barcelona and commits himself to Liverpool by signing a new and improved deal, then Rafa will give the nod for Alonso to move to Real Madrid.
* Alonso will be sold to Real Madrid regardless of Alonso’s status if Real meet our asking price which they are supposedly refusing to do but I have been told to ignore ALL speculation in the media about Alonso and Real Madrid by our source who would be personally responsible for the paperwork in any deal. This person is a senior executive at one of the clubs, don’t want to say too much so please don’t ask or speculate. The source is concrete and every claim they have made has happened. They say the deal is done and ONLY the player can stop it from going through. Your move Xabi!
* Liverpool have been negotiating with Athletic Bilbao for Javi Martinez since March/April. Click on search above and enter ‘Martinez’ and select the search period of 1 year and select the news section and you will see we have touched on him before. There is confusion over his buy-out clause. Some say it’s around €17m, some say it’s €30m. I’m sure Rafa knows the amount. Any deal can not be finalised until Rafa knows what is happening with Alonso and Macherano.
* I’m led to believe that Liverpool representatives are currently (13th July & 14th July) in Italy.
* There is fresh activity on the investment front. We have had many false dawns but please note that I totally ignored the last round of speculation as I knew it was nonsense. There is nothing else I can add at this time.
DISCLAIMER: All of the above has been passed to me in good faith by people I have a great deal of respect for. Before misquoting anything, please re-read, digest and see what happens over the coming weeks especially in relation to Alonso/Masch.
July 14, 2009 at 1:45 pm
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ THE DISCLAIMER that should be one of his new sources ” The Disclamer ”
Duncon, its just a rehash of whats been played out over every forum for the past 2 months. As for your source “being very concrete and every claim they have made happened”, show us one snippet that they have been out in front with and I will show you that the same info was posted on another site previously. Your days of putting 2 + 2 together and reaching 5 are over.
July 14, 2009 at 2:27 pm
His sources didn’t give him much info last year, did they?
http://koptalkinsider.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/the-insiders-summer-transfer-window-report/
July 14, 2009 at 7:24 pm
The funniest was lastyear. Informer and wallet both made a thread claiming a bid for barry had been accepted, and the deal was done, barry was on his way for a medical.
I shit you not, within minutes of this happening, skysports news broke the story that barry was commited to another year at Villa, and there was no deal to be made.
July 14, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Dunks back to his old fantasist self,the globe trotting millionaire.
Who the feck books a trip to NY 9 months in advance ?
So now he’s hitting Vegas,LFC and just incase you didn’t think he was wedged up NY for good measure.
Why have all the videos dried up ?
July 14, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Thats not the only thing that has dried up…
July 14, 2009 at 8:38 pm
No No No he has a new Merc and a beutifull home (only has 1 whitewashed pebble dashed wall though) with massive gates and a tree lined drive way…
July 15, 2009 at 12:13 am
Dunk claimed he was going to the states a year ago. Then claimed he was sick. Not sick enough to stop posting videos. His first video was all “…I am sick (cough)[nasal congestion]“.
Following video was a few hours later no cough, no nothing.
Remember Dunk’s work out videos? Yah well that didn’t go any place either. Dunk is mentally challenged.
July 15, 2009 at 12:16 am
POSTED BY GLASNEVINRED
“Not really too many genuine sources on here, it seems. Thought Koptalk prided itself on access to insiders. Don’t see much news breaking here. Off to BBC Sport. ”
HAHAHAHAHA Its bad when they are leaving for BBC SPORT dunk. By the way wheres Kate
July 15, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Maybe she realized that blood after all is thicker than water?
July 15, 2009 at 3:17 pm
What’s going on in Tidworth?
July 15, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Well it never took long for ” the informers ” thread about Ribery to be locked. A few posters were having a mature discussion about how legitimate sources were etc etc and how slow koptalk was. “informer” got his nickers in a twist and has gone off searching other sites for some info. Dunk knows best eh
July 15, 2009 at 6:07 pm
What’s going on in Tidworth?
He’ll be buying a 12* Hotel in a picture perfect English Town that’s FREE !!! that’s right FREE !!! to all Moarvideo subscribers…
He only does it because he cares.
July 15, 2009 at 7:45 pm
#539614 – July 15, 2009 19:36 SITE NEWS: Steve leaves KopTalk
Dunk Dunk
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Registered: July 21, 2007
Posts: 7752 Just to let you know that Steve is no longer a member of the KOPTALK team.
There is a possibility that he will pop in one day but we’ve both been talking about the future of the site for some time and I think it’s best that he gets some further education under his belt once he sorts a few things out. He can’t assume that KopTalk will always be here in the future, he needs to make a life for himself and as he’s turned 20, it’s time he did some real work
He was slacking in the support department and I can’t have that. You people give us your hard earned money when supporting the site and I really want to see major improvements with support.
I’m sad as he’s been like a brother to me but my lad’s the same age as Steve when he first started helping on the site so maybe over the summer you will see him become more involved… obviously not with support tickets etc!
Dunk
July 15, 2009 at 7:58 pm
The old Steve is leaving sympathy story. That has been used a few times before and i’m sure it will be used again.
July 15, 2009 at 8:01 pm
slacking in the support dept dunk ? according to you he was never paid a wage hahahahaha
slacking or refusing to do your dirty work anymore ?
Its time for you to let go now dunk, go about your moan video crap and stop fleecing the good reds of the world
July 15, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Latest tweet from Dunk: On my way to England. I’ll be using my private twitter account while away. Got some business to attend to.
Has he forgot he son is coming in a couple of days? Or is he going over to travel with him?
July 15, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Check out Kate’s blog: http://www.kateoldham.com
July 15, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Kate Oldham is being erased and Kate “Couzins” is being promoted. It’s Dunk’s cousin who was used as some type of weird sexual interest. She claimed to speak and write Spanish. Caused bi-lingual speakers to laugh at her in our blogs.
July 15, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Now that is GOLD hahahahahahahahaha
Maybe even Platinum
July 15, 2009 at 10:03 pm
It’s Dunk’s life and he’s entitled to it. When Dunk makes claims that don’t make sense or doesn’t follow through. That’s his business.
The parts I comment on are when Dunk forgets his claims and then makes new ones that didn’t match his previous claims. Not saying his lying. Saying he has a problem in getting his facts straight.
Like in June ‘09 when Dunk said he had to go to the doctor for medical problems. Soon after Dunk is making claims of drinking till the wee hours and having huge, fat filled, meals.
Or when he claims his web site needs $1300 donations a month and he’s not paid. Then Dunk turns around and says he owns cars, houses, hotels or whatever. Then, a week later or so, Dunk talks about not having enough money for food.
It must be hard to be Dunk. Not knowing what he’s said or not caring. Some say he’s a liar, that could be true. I say he’s entertaining and should never be taken seriously or given any money.
July 15, 2009 at 11:19 pm
does that mean steve’s brand spanking new mercedes has now been cancelled, despite dunk putting the “deposit” down for it. hasnt he only just given him a house aswell. poor dunk, too many lies and not enough intellect to remember
July 16, 2009 at 2:11 am
Both Steve and Kate have been struck from the members list. Today, Informer ran off with his nickers in a twist and now dunk is either in, or on his way back to ingerland. Forget the Muppet show, this is better than Corrie.
Amusingly and after 10 years of being a co conspirator, not one member has asked whats gone on with steve.
July 16, 2009 at 8:59 am
There was finally someone this morning who made a post about it. But noone is questioning why he has to leave the site like that. He could easily just stay on but not do the work he did. But then they wouldn’t know that he’s off the memebrs list either. Dunk just told them he is no longer a member of the kotalk team.
Someone also made a funny remark: I guess Dunk’s Mrs doesn’t want you round the villa any more! Has he not noticed Kate’s gone too? Or maybe that’s just was he has? I don’t know, but worse for Dunk is that he doesn’t know either. It’s comedy gold at that place right now. Run off and sign up. Eh, wait a minute… It will all be revealed here anyway.
July 16, 2009 at 11:43 am
Dunk’s on fire today:
#539916 – July 16, 2009 10:19 Liverpool FC still in Italy
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Registered: October 15, 2007
Posts: 74 We have a delegation there. They were due to be there for no longer than 1 – 2 days but they’ve been there quite some time now which is unusual. I would say that they’re waiting for instructions from Liverpool as such a delay is odd.
#539922 – July 16, 2009 10:23 Transfer of money
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Posts: 74 I posted about the movement of some money recently. Those funds are still sitting in a holding account. Because of tax and interest matters, that money has to be paid out by Monday July 20 or returned to the original sterling source account.
#539940 – July 16, 2009 10:32 Alonso + Madrid
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Posts: 74 Communication between both clubs has currently ceased but Liverpool expect an increased offer in the next 48 hrs.
There is a disagreement of 11 million euros in the valuation between the clubs.
The player is very unhappy and doesn’t want to return on Sunday. He is hoping that Real Madrid will have reached an agreement by then.
#539965 – July 16, 2009 10:44 Liverpool F.C. divorce
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Registered: October 15, 2007
Posts: 74 Gillett and Hicks could be about to negotiate a divorce. Without getting too technical their options are, if they agree to a sale to a consortium that is present:-
- 24.5% estimated stake each with 51% stake to new investor
- one party sells and remaining party has 49% stake with 51% stake to new investor
- 100% sale by both partners to new investor
There is an August 20 cut off period for them to agree a deal under these options but then they would have to negotiate valuations and future rights. Hicks is someone who has always wanted a condition that if he sells he would still get a slice of future gate receipts. If he drops that condition and they both agree one of the options above, a deal could go through before September.
#539967 – July 16, 2009 10:45 Re: Transfer of money [Re: KOP1975]
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Fee and terms agreed but Rafael has not asked for it to be signed off.
July 16, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Even more bullshit from Dunk:
#540272 – July 16, 2009 16:45 Liverpool transfer funds
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Registered: October 15, 2007
Posts: 75 Liverpool have this afternoon transferred funds to Spain to an account with Banco de Valencia who have branches across the country. This was wired to their head office in the city of Valencia.
This money has a ‘claw back’ option which means Liverpool can recall it anytime until July 23 and the beneficiary can not draw on it until after that date. This is not unusual. Liverpool had to do this to prevent some kind of UK-related financial penalty (taxes/interest). They could either move the money from their holding account back to a primary account or transfer overseas. Moving it overseas is the cheaper option.
I can not disclose further details but I can tell you that Liverpool plan to finalise a deal on Wednesday 22 July. According to my source at the club the deal could be cancelled if Real Madrid don’t reach an agreement for Alonso within the next 4 days.
I will try to log on tomorrow.
#540362 – July 16, 2009 18:01 Deal done….medical pending…..
wallet wallet
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Registered: July 22, 2004
Posts: 1890
Hi
Sorry I’ve been on the go a lot (going on honeymoon next week) but I’ve just received a snippet by text saying “Rafa’s a happy man today, another done deal and a medical is expected after the weekend”.
I’ve texted back asking who but I don’t expect to receive any names by text. I would have assumed it was Silva (and it most likely is) but that deal was agreed in principle over a week ago when I spoke to my contact last about him. We do have representatives in Italy so it could be someone else.
I’ll let you know once I do..
July 16, 2009 at 9:22 pm
the account thing is total bullshit. pretending to know about banking when he obviously knows jack shit. maybe they will move it to a super extra holding account next with a double clawback no swapsies option. fucking retard
July 16, 2009 at 9:27 pm
He must be fuming that all his snippets are being posted on here when he is trying to con people out of thirty quid for it.
July 17, 2009 at 3:04 am
“Claw Back” is an investment term not associated with player contracts.
The_Informer (Dunk) used term incorrectly.
To a Financial Analysis, someone referring “claw back” to a player’s contract is saying, “the player isn’t human” but an investment, like stock”.
Does this make sense? Of course it doesn’t.
Dunk is The_Informer, trying to look smart. Looking really thick headed. Dunk stay with terms you can understand like fat and lazy.
July 17, 2009 at 4:19 am
Every post by informer and wallet today was the biggest load of shite I have ever witnessed on a website. Who gets a text saying “rafa is a happy man about the deal being done and a medical is planned for next week” without may I add, being told who the player actually is. Its more of the same dunk, 2+2=5. Like one of your members has stated today, there is no informer its just you being computer savvy and reading the internet. RSS feeds are great for that, arent they .
Todays posts are a diversion away from the real story on koptalk. What has happened to Steve and Kate ? Why are they deleted from the members list? Maybe steve is writing his own book (haha) You dont want questions being asked and once again you trip your self up with your lies. You say “steve may pop back in now and again to say hello” how does he do that if his account is deleted ? use one of the many alias`s or multiple accounts that exist to pad the numbers?
Little bit advice for you dunk, Tell the truth, its easier to remember.
July 17, 2009 at 11:40 am
“I’m sad as he’s been like a brother to me” – past tense! So Steve’s been cast aside and disowned for not keeping up with support queries – bit harsh. He must be a hater!
July 17, 2009 at 11:50 am
I actually think that he is still involved behind the scenes and the public announcement of his departure could well be so he can carry on claiming benefit in the UK.
July 17, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Been reading this site for a couple of hours now and i cant believe the amount of info on here. Im going to have to cancel my subscription.
THere are various refferences to free sites which geve just the same amount of iinfo.
Im aware of various ones can anybody recommend one in particular?
RAWK?
July 17, 2009 at 12:47 pm
You just couldn’t make this up. The world of Duncan Oldham is incredible. Todays twitter announcements:
Clearing Rob’s room of a load of junk ahead of his arrival tomorrow. Then clearing my old office so my new chick can settle in!
So he’s been engaged with two girls in the last year. The last one he claimed to have bought a house with two months ago. Now he’s got a new chick?
yeh man… me and Kate are still pals though… been like that a while
It’s not that long ago she said how much she loved you on twitter. But some of the later updates showed there was a bit of concern from her side. Less than three weeks ago she was working on koptalk. And now you have a new chick?
Nah all’s good bro. We’ll keep in touch. Her daughter lives in the north of Spain & I’ve encouraged her to be closer. We move on.
So she has a daughter as well now? And you are encouraging her to move closer to her daughter two months after the two of you bought a new house together? Come on Dunk, even the most dense of your moanvideo members surely won’t believe all this crap.
July 17, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Hi Ballbag
If you recently renewed you sub, as I’m led to believe, you can claim your money back from paypal. See blog post in the top menu about that. That is, if Dunk don’t refund you on request.
As for other sites, Rawk is just one of many good alternatives. All free and without Dunk’s lies. (Not saying there’s no bullshitters around either.
)
If you’re irish, as your IP suggests, try http://irishkop.com
July 17, 2009 at 5:24 pm
seems dunk s”chick” left at the same time as steve. maybe she wanted a “slightly” less fat model. Does this mean steve is still getting the brand new merc you were buying him dunk? you have paid the deposit already havent you?
Maybe she finally realised that his whole world is built on lies. How quickly does he move them in aswell? Maybe its like a carer because i doubt he is able to wipe his own arse.
Any more movement on this money? must be a full time job just moving this from holding account to holding account. dont forget the clawback!!!
July 17, 2009 at 6:46 pm
You’d have thought he would’ve waited until today before leaving England as then he could’ve surprised his son by picking him up from School and flying back with him.
Maybe that’s just what i would’ve done,you know being a real farther and all that.
Also i thought he’d emptied his little box so why would he need to clear his ‘OLD’ office ?
The looser is in one of his manic fazes where he forgets what tripe he’s allready put out into the WWW.
July 17, 2009 at 11:48 pm
From his own blog:
Things To Look Forward To
Personal
17th July 2009 – By Dunk
I like to look forward to things in life. I like to have something to be focused on, it motivates me knowing that I have something to look forward to so I’ve booked a week’s holiday in Las Vegas and I’m hoping to visit New Orleans before the year is out.
While in Nevada I will be visiting Area 51! I’m really excited about that!
I’m definitely going to see Liverpool take on Manchester United having confirmed my flights and hotel and I’ve booked a week in New York during the first quarter of 2010.
I enjoy travelling and as I enjoy making videos for MoarVideo, there should be some interesting content coming up over the next six months or so!
I’m sure you all know by now that I’m no longer with Kate. She has a few things in her life that she needs to address relating to her child and also her family back in England. Kate and I had some good times but she can’t kick that nasty habit (smoking!) – I can’t stand that shit.
As my closest friends know, we actually split a few weeks ago. I had hoped that Kate and I would sort a few things out but that’s not going to be the case as someone else has come into my life and I really do think it’s best that Kate spends some time on her own to sort out some personal things. Even though we split up she still lived here as ‘friends’, there was no nasty parting thankfully.
I’m very happy and I want Kate to be very happy too. I wish her all the happiness in the world as we had a good laugh during our time together
Working for yourself and waking up in paradise every day is an advantage for me and because I like my status, I feel it’s easier to make positive but hard decisions. Back in England I had 2 serious relationships since leaving school. Since living in Spain these last couple of years I’m now on my 3rd girlfriend here, 4th if you count the one that moved out here with me! I don’t like the short-term thing, I prefer to be settled. Back in England I may have stayed in one of these relationships but out here, the way of life is different and you really need to be surrounded by happiness because there’s so much fun here.
Shit happens I guess. I deeply regret f*cking my marriage up because I lost my best friend, but you can’t turn back the clock. I was too young and too bloody stupid. But with or without a bird, I’m happy here. The girl I’m seeing now is a happy person, I’ve yet to see her not smile which is nice.
F*ck knows what the future holds but for now I’m happy and that’s all that counts, and as long as my former partners are happy, everyone’s a winner! I wouldn’t like to split and then feel the need to hate someone. Life’s too short.
And his daughter’s seen through him now too:
Good Times
Personal
17th July 2009 – By Dunk
My son Rob is due here in Spain tomorrow for the summer holidays. That means we’re going to have 6 weeks of fun! Eating out, partying, shows, meals, adventures… you name it we’re gonna do it!
Sadly his big sis won’t be coming for the first time. She’s 16 now and she’s more into lads than dads so I’m naturally upset about that. However it means Rob and I will get to spend some quality time together alone, for the very first time. Obviously I spent a lot of time with Charlotte before Rob was born so this is a new experience for me.
Rob idolises me, so everyone tells me, and I idolise him. I’m really excited; can’t wait!
July 18, 2009 at 12:38 am
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
What a woppa he is. dunk its all about karma my man. As long as you continue to fleece reds you will never know true happiness.
Its another display of your bi polar kicking in. deny all the pain and medicate yourself with a quick fix of trips to the states and phoney well wishes for everyone.
no better way to squander hard earned subs from your members by blowing it on trips to america eh ?
what a picture you have painted, Only your closest friends knew of your break up. steve and kate were your closest friends (doh) and to push the story along you have met someone who hasnt stopped smiling “which is nice” hahaha priceless shit mate and well deserving of your editor title.
There is no new chick, no maria, no kate or no louise. Louise ? now you didnt think I forgot about her did you.
your alone dunk and you always will be. you have brought all this isolation on yourself with your continued mockery of Liverpool Football Club. you are despised on every LFC forum who you claim, “are trying to steal your members”. How the fuck would anyone be stealing anyone for a FREE forum? delusions of grandeur fella.
you said steve was at home tending to Lauren in hospital. She is your cousin, why were you not at her bedside ? Then you said steve was home tending to his sick aunt .steve sounds a regular florence nightengale doesnt he ? remember I told you to tell the truth, its easier to remember.
whilst your blowing the subs, wonder whos blowing steve ? as long as everyones happy, dunk knows best eh.
July 18, 2009 at 1:02 am
Kate has been gone since June. Dunk’s been playing with sock accounts to make her live again. It was easy to see when she left and Dunk imagination took over.
Dunk “ragged’ on Kate on twitter, sad.
Dunk is wrong about Area 51, it doesn’t exist. Groom Lake is the real deal. Area 51 is from movies and bad science fiction. Those ‘in the know” understand this.
Groom Lake is a US military installation. Go ahead Dunk visit it. Am sure the Sheriff will let you out long enough to blog about it, or after your are deported.
The reality is Dunk posted a video of his daughters boobs on the internet. Imagine her friends seeing this.
Hate to kick a thick headed Dunk on his way down. Then again, he deserves every stomp.
July 18, 2009 at 8:41 am
There was 1 update in 11 days, and then she all of a sudden created a “private” twitter accound. Does that sound like Dunk?
Dunk posted a video on his moanvideo-site a while back where he said there were three people that had let him down recently. THe one he named was his daughter, who would not be visiting him this summer. The other two he didn’t name, but it’s obvious it wsa Steve and Kate.Poor Dunk. His best friends leaving and his family won’t see him. He’ll soon be left with a few gullible american vloggers, even fewer gullible LFC fans, and loads of sock accounts. At least the latter won’t let him down.
July 18, 2009 at 12:10 pm
#541338 – July 18, 2009 09:56 Liverpool ask for Klaas-Jan Huntelaar valuation
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Posts: 78 Rafael spoke at length with Real Madrid general director Jorge Valdano on Friday. They get on really well away from football but this was a business call.
Obviously they were talking about Alonso and a long list of players that Real are prepared to deal in. One new addition to that list is Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.
The general response from Rafael was that he was too expensive because Real would have to pay 7 million euros to his former club Ajax if they sell him on this summer.
Tottenham and Arsenal have spoken about the player and if they weren’t to agree a price, could Rafael negotiate a loan deal? I don’t know the rules about loans.
July 18, 2009 at 12:13 pm
#541346 – July 18, 2009 10:03 Roma claim Liverpool interest in Bale
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Posts: 78 A Roma executive claims that Liverpool and Inter Milan are interested in Tottenham’s Gareth Bale.
I asked about this and was told that we were in talks with Spurs earlier this summer but it wasn’t about Bale. I had to back off as my source was a bit unhappy about me mentioning Spurs for some reason and he wouldn’t even say if it was about a sale or purchase.
July 18, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Who calls Rafa Rafael like!! So Valdano the guy who called Rafa’s team “shit on a stick” is best of friends away from football? Haha that’s a good one.
July 18, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Rafa hates Valdano with a passion usualy reserved for The Kop on a European night,it goes right the way back to when Rafa was incharge of the RM Youth set up and Valdano started to stab him in the back.
I’ll say again Rafa HATES Valdano it’s not even a secret ffs.
July 18, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Skamp, does he hate Rafael though ? hahahaha.
Dunk knows more than ever that he is under pressure to keep his members active. The recent departures of guys like Ytse, senorbutch, redkopmike, penman, Kop, Loocold, 5 europeancups, and The Cat are having a drastic effect and have made a significant dent into the quality of posting that went on. Dunk would also have you believe and tells the site that some of these members have changed their names and are contributing in other aliasis. WRONG .
In fact, they are reaching out to current members of koptalk and letting them know that all the insider baloney is bullshit and that other free forums are way out in front in terms of information, freedom of speech and freedom of expression, where any type of emotion is not subject to the control of a thick bi polar gormless twat.
Dunk if you want to sell your site as a closed community for friends then you have the right and no qualms from me. If people want to pay for that then thats their perogotive. Its when you start selling and marketing your site as a site with insiders and connections at Liverpool Football club and are duping fans into a false pretending.
You have no insiders at LFC and you prey on the nieve with your snake charm and your tactics of a conman. Just about every other LFC forum despises you for this yet you call them rivals and haterz. Thats a bizzare attitude but denial is the best sort of defence I guess.
The overwhelming majority of people that leave koptalk all feel like a victim. Thats how unhealthy your site is. When they see how hard earned money is squandered on the premise of deceit of a club they love, is it any wonder they leave feeling bitter and angry ? yet you still find a way to mock them. truely pathetic dunk, pathetic
July 18, 2009 at 6:16 pm
what an entertaining couple of weeks, thanks dunk.
July 18, 2009 at 6:48 pm
So his son comes over to see his dad and his dad fecks off out for the night leaving his son with ?
Yes Dunce you really are the poster child for the perfect farther.
July 18, 2009 at 8:27 pm
What a magnificent father he is!
July 18, 2009 at 10:34 pm
hey, thats what computer games are for. he can go out and ruin his health even further and his kid can sit at home alone and play games.
i think we should run a sweep on how long it takes for him to be engaged again. twice in the last 2 years. this one is already being moved in so the engagement video is probably already being made. does he go out and just ask the first girl he sees to move in with him? nice to see he gets to know the properly before moving them in and letting his kid spend 7 weeks with a total stranger. great dad.
On the koptalk side, wasnt steve basically running the site after dunk decided to take a step back? so members are now getting even less for their money as nobody will be manning the site. As for him deleting his account. why would he want to leave the most die hard super fan site for everything lfc with only die hard real fans on the most popular die hard site in the whole wide world? Is he now a hater.
July 19, 2009 at 12:09 am
He’s back on the hookers…
http://duncanoldham.posterous.com/cough-my-new-lady-friend-is-here-gotta-go
July 19, 2009 at 1:00 am
but he is such a catch though! why wouldnt a good looking girls want to play hunt the penis and strap him into his breathing machine?
July 19, 2009 at 12:29 pm
It’s not even a hooker, it’s just someone else who happened to be in the same bar as him.
Has he mentioned this week about how much more he loves Spain to England? So much that he has to have a full English breakfast every day, complains about the heat all the time, drinks the well-known Spanish tipple Magners, or the other Spanish delicacy Pepsi if he’s having a break from the booze and only watches English TV.
Charlotte went out round town back home on Friday night, and has Dunk seen the photos of her in bed with her boyfriend?
Everyone is, finally starting to see him for what he is – even those he thought loved him.
July 20, 2009 at 12:09 am
Dunk says nobody gets on a wage on contalk, so I have to ask the question about Lucy. Just who is she? she seems to spend an awful lot of time flirting with the lads in the chatbox. Now its SUPPOSED to be a football forum (I know, I know) theres plenty of forums on the net for that type of thing. There is no way I am buying that she spends so much time on the site without being accomodated. Is Lucy, dunks mother Jeanette.
How does she and the other lackys feel about dunk reaping all the benefits from the subs? Not a chance they can be happy with dunk flying off back and forth whilst they man the ship. unless of course, they are also taking money under the table and hiding it from the tax man or receiving some other illegal perks.
July 20, 2009 at 12:18 am
Well, he can’t afford to pay Steve for his services, so it must be his mum or something like that. I’d guess the guys flirting with her in the shout box would be a bit embarrased if that turned out to be true.
As for his mum. How proud must she be of her boy and how great a dad he has become. One minute his boy comes over to visit him, the next minute he fucks off to an all-inclusive hotel in Benidorm getting pissed and shagging prozzies. And she must be really impressed with him for managing to break two engagements in less than a year. Some achievement there. No wonder we are so jealous!
July 20, 2009 at 12:29 am
Appears Dunk is recycling old images. Don’t believe any image unless there’s a paper in it. His last images look like something from June.
If Dunk’s Mum is flirting with minors on Kraptalk? Doesn’t that make her a pedophile?
Isn’t pedophilia a crime?
July 20, 2009 at 12:43 am
btw dunk, I saw the picture of your daughter in bed with the lad. Its a terrible thing and a poor choice that she has put it on facebook. Fuck all this nonsense fella, you need to give up koptalk and go back to england and straighten your family out. What type of role model are you, one that fleeces the subs or one that puts his family before any website. Dont say family first either cos you yourself are putting up perv pictures of ole hags on your blog. sort yourself out man
July 20, 2009 at 1:13 am
hi all not posted on here before but my sources tell me that Steve did one with Dunks ex – aparantly he had been saving up for a while!
July 20, 2009 at 9:04 pm
So she opted for the half-brother who can actually see his own cock?
July 20, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Dont know details but aparantly she went back for him
July 20, 2009 at 10:11 pm
I think it would be more believable if he didn’t post pictures of her that shows her wedding ring. Or is he into married chicks now?
July 20, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Anything with tits n a pulse would be my toughts if i were him
July 20, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Can’t have cost much unless you’ve got a fetish for spaniel’s ears – times must be hard
July 21, 2009 at 4:32 am
I keep waiting for dunk to announce that its one big elaborate hoax to trick the haterz, providing further evidence that blog owns him
July 21, 2009 at 8:53 pm
He will never admit it! He is never wrong!!
July 21, 2009 at 9:23 pm
It’s obvious that he attempted to make that cousin of his who he claims to have been banging go halves on a pad,her familly got involved warning her against it and he pt out a couple of threatening blogs (not long after all of his blogs were removed).
I cannot understand why he pretended to have moved out of the shoebox though,the only thing i can think of is that the place is not his,it’s his mothers and she has moved back over forcing him back down to the basement,that would explain why he’s has to move the toys into the tiny space outside.
If i am wrong then who the feck has been looking after his son whilst he’s been out and when he’s laid in bed bored shitless…
July 21, 2009 at 9:44 pm
wheres his shoe box then?
July 22, 2009 at 1:09 am
Not that this matters…
Dumps has been providing his moanvid site with such amazing footage, such as a stolen phone shot of a random girl, drinking alone in a hotel self-serve shop and a long and painful urination scene. Looks as though our boy has either a urinary tract infection or an enlarged prostate. Quality entertainment for his vidiots. When will the fun ever stop?
July 22, 2009 at 5:00 pm
KopTalk items that appear on our non-members (free) website are also included here but more detailed items and various exclusive reports when available are retained purely for this VIP members-only section.
“Items from sources that some members may object to are included purely for information purposes only, to see what such sources are claiming. It does not mean that we support or condone negative sources.
If you find an article of interest that we haven’t included today, please email the link to news@koptalk.com ”
This is the shitbags way of explaining articles posted and his continued support of the rag.
July 22, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Hi
I have been a member of Koptalk for 7 years, I have been following this site for a couple of months and not sure what to make of it all?
I am starting to feel fleeced, koptalk has definitely went down hill with all the departures. I never went on for the insider stuff just for the banter and the community, but there isn’t one now.
I still need my liverpool fix everyday, are there any other liverpool sites that you can recommend. I would love to go to the site where alot of the ex-koptalk members have gone – kop, selkirk, lector, cat, SenorButch?
July 22, 2009 at 10:17 pm
If you have paid for 7 years then I’d say you have been tricked, yes. However it’s never too late to get out. SEnd me an e-mail and I’ll see what I can do for you.
July 22, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Hello Have_I_been_Tricked.
Yes. In answer to your question.
I’ve been a member of KT since February 2001.
You’ve been fleeced and so have thousands of other subscribers and it needs to stop. The issue here is not about whether previous posters have a grudge or an “issue” but something with which other current posters “are comfortable”.
I may get abuse from my fellow friends here, but KT used to be good and I liked it there. Our mates (and a few that were obviously our antagonists) were dueling daily on a myriad of issues and it was fun. Now most of those intellectual and sensible posters are gone and KT is like a wasteland. Since April, it’s been dead. Certainly since some of the more influential posters left, it’s been very quiet and un-enjoyable…
Look to the right. There are a plethora of LFC supporter websites you can join for nothing and what’s more, you can bring your mates with you (if you have mates).
Talk to your pals — (use the PM function — available on every LFC supporters’ website). You’ll land on your feet, I assure you.
July 22, 2009 at 10:40 pm
There are no PM’s on koptalk. Haven’t been for years. If there was Dunk would no longer be able to control what members say to each other.
July 22, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Get out sooner rater than later! You pay money when all the decent posters are on other sits anyway!! Slowly but surely Koptalk is shrinking down in size and will be worth nothing to Duncan soon!!
Doesn’t the fact that Steve has done a runner explain everything!! Not sure which other admins have left over the years but surely Steve going says it all
July 23, 2009 at 12:32 am
Oh Dear, “the informer” is at it again
Sneijder agent holding talks with Liverpool tomorrow. This will be a senior Liverpool FC official and not an agent representing the club.
Valencia say David Silva is no longer available but his agent has already agreed personal terms with Liverpool. He’s due to give an exclusive interview with a high profile Spanish journalist this month when he will be asked about Liverpool as it is an arranged question. He is in contact with Fernando Torres on an almost daily basis.
Arrangements have been made for Alberto Aquilani to visit Melwood while the squad is away but they cannot be finalized until tomorrow. Tomorrow could prove interesting on several fronts but with Alonso’s future still not finalized we may witness more delays. Bad feelings are starting to form towards Alonso from senior first team players which is understandable so it’s important that this is worked through soon. Rafael though is refusing to move on his valuation of Alonso.
For the Love of God koptalkers, get out now and save yourselves. ButchOdowd was the only one to call this post bullshit and then all the kiss arses piled up on him. Who the hell is this danperkins and naveed ? they couldnt have their heads any further up dunks arse.
Its time for name and shame now and for some of these imposters to be called out for propping up this sham.
July 23, 2009 at 3:04 am
Dunk wants people to think he’s still living in Spain. Dunk continues to use recycled images from his son’s last visit earlier this year.
Shameful exploitation
July 23, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Looks like The Informer(Dunk) got impatient and got carried away with himself a bit with that crap. Informers on the other LFC forums(not ones that scam and lie) just say their bit and leave it at that and you wait for it to happen.
Dunk just does not have a clue what is going on and the above info is a desperate attempt from a desperate man.
One week Silva is nailed on and next Valencia are keeping him so he covers himself with that. Sneijder and Aquilani are both central midfielders and no chance will we go for both and Aquilani will only be shown around Melwood when he signs up. More bullshit lies.
The funniest part is this nothing statement “Tomorrow could prove interesting on several fronts but with Alonso’s future still not finalized we may witness more delays”.
So nothing will happen tomorrow!!!!
July 23, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Bosco Says:
July 23, 2009 at 3:04 am
Dunk wants people to think he’s still living in Spain. Dunk continues to use recycled images from his son’s last visit earlier this year.
Shameful exploitation
I can confirm he is stil living in Spain and they are not recycled images
July 24, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Its irrelevant where he is living when he is still using the same tactics to con the fuck out of people
“At the end of the day the majority are happy and those who aren’t can vote with their pockets as to whether they want to support our website, which to me, is more of a family. It is far deeper than just transfer news.
We all make our own minds up. I wouldn’t be a part of something that I had no faith. I try to oversee things sensibly and fairly.
KopTalk has loads of journalists as members (from the nationals) and we have members who have been involved in senior management positions/roles/deals. We also have former and current player contributions and let’s not forget we were the only LFC site in the world invited to Montreal and Dallas.
There are many lurkers here who are associated to the club but are put off by some of the negative posters, not the ones who express an opinion such as “I can’t see it myself” but those who basically imply someone is a liar.
We came close to losing a key contributor recently because they feel they are here to help yet they get stick. I believe people need a thick skin but I also believe that every member should be respected, unless he’s a tool and I know there’s a couple of them although they claim to be no longer here but they log on daily.
Enjoy the site, take everything with a pince of salt and be assured that I put in 100% all of the time for you, all season.
YNWA “
July 24, 2009 at 10:28 pm
just a question …
he ordered the car from a dealer in Spain ….
Spain cars are left hand drive
he is driving a right hand drive car
Could it be a car that has been brought over from the UK? probably his mother’s – after all she owns the house he lives in – with his taste in shagging his family members, probably had to go down on his mam to use her car!!!
July 24, 2009 at 10:44 pm
interesting ……..
He has a magic car …..
Left hand drive
http://www.moarvideo.tv/video/early-start
Right hand drive
http://www.moarvideo.tv/video/good-moar-ning
Or are these just rental cars … and just more proof of his lies?
July 24, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Hello Duncon,
This site is aimed at current Koptalkers who want the other side of the equation and I think while “shagging family members’ might indeed be the case (I have no comment on this), it’s important for current KT-ers to know that Duncan is living high on the hog taking money from you and you’ve got better alternatives. Many of your mates are on other sites and have transferred (in the past and more recently) and you need to do the same and stop supporting a site that’s on it’s way out.
YNWA
July 25, 2009 at 6:00 am
The stupid bastard is still begging for donations on that moar video and doing vlogs about his pending visits to New York, Nevada and New Orleans. Just like he wont be at the scum game, he wont be visiting America anytime soon.
July 25, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I guess this more or less proves The Informer is talking bullshit:
#543898 – July 22, 2009 17:48 Xabi Alonso not injured
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Posts: 81 I was speaking to a club official today and he said that Xabi does not have an ankle injury.
Real Madrid and Liverpool are still talking.
Alonso has confirmed himself that he has been injured, but Dunk knows best, eh….