The identity of KopTalk’s “insider” sources is finally revealed: the British national press

These are worrying times for Liverpool fans. It’s clear that some of our best players may leave this summer and there’s a real chance that the ownership issue won’t be resolved to the benefit of the club. Duncan Oldham isn’t worried, though. He’s rubbing his hands with glee. He only cares about Liverpool Football Club in so far as it can be used to line his own pockets, so he relishes all this negativity, confusion and discord.

That’s why KopTalk currently resembles a shanty-town sewer, as Oldham begins cranking up his bullshit output in preparation for the summer transfer window.

Unfortunately for Dunk, when you examine the substance of his posts, you realise that he’s simply rehashing stories that have appeared constantly in the national press over the past six months and have already been discussed ad nauseam on every LFC forum in the land.

In short, these are the developments Oldham is saying may occur over the summer: Gerrard may leave (as reported in the national press since October); Torres may leave (as reported in the national press since October); Rafa may leave of his own accord or may be sacked (as reported in the national press since October); the owners may sell the club (as reported in the national press since September).

Steven Gerrard

Firstly, let’s take a look at what the national press has had to say about our captain leaving the club this summer. The first reports saying that this could be Gerrard’s last season at Liverpool appeared back in October in the News Of The World and Oldham’s favourite rag, The S*n (NB: we know this courtesy of the BBC Football Gossip Column). The NotW linked Gerrard with a move to Real Madrid, Barcelona or Inter Milan in December. Later in the month, The S*n claimed Manchester City would move for him if we finished outside of the top four.

In January, the Daily Express and Daily Mail linked Gerrard with Inter, and the Daily Star said he could move to Real Madrid or AC Milan, while the NotW again claimed that he could depart during the summer. Later in the month, the Mail reported that Gerrard would move to Real Madrid, Inter Milan or Manchester City.

In February, the NotW said that Manchester City will bid £140m for Gerrard and Torres. In March, The People reported that he might move to Real Madrid, while the Italian press repeated the claim that he may sign for Inter. This month, the Daily Mail has mooted a swap deal for Inter’s Mario Balotelli.

That’s at least 13 reports in the national press over the past six months that Gerrard is likely to leave the club. Factor in follow-up articles by Liverpool sites and the likes of Tribal Football, Goal.com et al, and the total number of pieces is many times that figure.

Now let’s take a look at what Dunk has had to say. He’s up to his usual tricks – taking a story that’s been doing the rounds in the national press for months, adding a dose of his own bullshit, covering his back with plenty of “coulds” and “ifs”, and then passing it off as “insider” information:

01/04/10 06:42 PM Jose Mourinho to bid £30million for Steven Gerrard – REPORT
KopTalk Team
Italian sports paper Tuttosport is reporting that Jose Mourinho is planning a £30million summer bid for Steven Gerrard.
Although Liverpool supporters willl never accept that Gerrard will leave, we believe that he will be made available for transfer in the summer and that Spanish giants Real Madrid will be favourites to land him.
With Gerrard turning 30 next month, Liverpool know that it’s time to cash in now and the club will not block his exit if a suitable bid comes in.
What is worrying is that Liverpool are not in a position to play hard to get so it wouldn’t surprise us if Gerrard was sold for less than £20million.

04/04/10 06:24 PM Re: Summer [Re: L_F_C]
Dunk
Editor
I can see the club listening to offers for Gerrard. I am of the opinion that his agent knows this which obviously means Steven does.

04/04/10 10:16 PM Re: Here You Go [Re: Dunk]
Dunk Editor
Worringly I believe we could lose Torres and Gerrard this summer. Not just because of Rafa though but also because of no funding. You might get another year out of Torres but I think Gerrard will go unless something dramatically changes.

05/04/10 12:43 PM Something has to give and something will
Dunk
Editor
It could be too late to retain Gerrard and Torres. I have it on concrete authority that Gerrard’s agent has been told he can leave this summer. Note that he hasn’t been told he has to leave, but if a suitable bid comes in, it will be accepted. If that happens, don’t be surprised if he leaves for much less than you and I would expect.
Real Madrid will make an official approach for Steven Gerrard in the summer. I have contacts there and I can guarantee an approach if the player remains injury free. But if Rafa did end up at Real Madrid, there’s no chance Steven would make the move. At this stage of his career could you blame Gerrard for not wanting to play Thursday night football? If he leaves, he leaves with my blessing and he should leave with yours.

05/04/10 01:49 PM Re: Something has to give and something will [Re: RedExpat]
Dunk
Editor
The good thing is nobody is saying as yet that any of them are planning to leave. There are suggestions that Torres and Gerrard will jump regardless, especially Gerrard. I would have thought that if Rafa went they’d see what happens under a new boss so I’m trying to keep the faith.

[PLEASE NOTE: THE ARTICLE BELOW WAS A COPY AND PASTE OF A STORY FROM OLDHAM’S FAVOURITE NEWSPAPER – THE S*N]

06/04/10 10:20 AM Ian Wright: Real Madrid right move for Steven Gerrard
KopTalk Team
Ian Wright believes Steven Gerrard should quit Liverpool and consider a move to Spanish giants Real Madrid…

07/04/10 12:25 PM Gerrard: Reina would be a great Liverpool captain
KopTalk Team
KOPTALK sources believe this summer could see the exit of Steven Gerrard and that Real Madrid are lining up a summer transfer bid. More on that here.

07/04/10 01:08 PM Re: Gerrard [Re: Paul Jackson]
Dunk Editor
Has to be Real. They’re serious this year. It’s also been suggested to me that Italy is an option but where? I was told Barca aren’t interested.
Can’t see him joining an English club. Alongside Alonso, providing Rafa isn’t there, is a strong possibility.
But hey, he could still stay yet

11/04/2010 11:33 AM Benitez admits he may have to sell Gerrard or Torres
KopTalk Team
The KOPTALK editor recently revealed that Steven Gerrard has been made available for transfer by Christian Purslow. This basically means if a club comes in for him and Gerrard wants to leave, then the club will not stand in his way.

Fernando Torres

Next we’ll examine what the national press has been saying about Torres over the past six months. In October, both the NotW and The Mirror reported that he may leave. In November, The Independent and the Daily Mail said that Man City will bid for him. The following month, The Times repeated the claim that he was a Man City target, The Mirror said that Chelsea would make a £60m bid, and the NotW insisted that Torres will probably leave if we don’t finish in the top four, with Chelsea and Man City his likely destinations. The NotW repeated this claim twice in January. The next month, The Mirror said that Fernando is odds on to leave Anfield if we fail to finish in the top four, while the NotW claimed that Man City will bid £140m for Gerrard and Torres. By March, the Spanish press, as well as The Guardian, were reporting that we may have to sell Torres, with Barcelona his preferred destination. The NotW again stated that he may leave, for Chelsea, Manchester City or Barcelona, while the Corriere dello Sport claimed he could move to Juventus.

That’s at least 16 different reports that he may leave the club. Now let’s look at what Oldham has been crapping out on KopTalk regarding Torres. As with his bullshit about Gerrard, anybody with no sense of shame and a predilection for ripping off decent, honest Liverpool fans could churn this nonsense out:

04/04/10 06:24 PM Re: Summer [Re: L_F_C]
Dunk
Editor
Torres… I feel he could stay another year but a huge bid this summer would be given serious consideration.

04/04/10 10:16 PM Re: Here You Go [Re: Dunk]
Dunk Editor
Worringly I believe we could lose Torres and Gerrard this summer. Not just because of Rafa though but also because of no funding. You might get another year out of Torres but I think Gerrard will go unless something dramatically changes.

05/04/10 01:49 PM Re: Something has to give and something will [Re: RedExpat]
Dunk
Editor
The good thing is nobody is saying as yet that any of them are planning to leave. There are suggestions that Torres and Gerrard will jump regardless, especially Gerrard. I would have thought that if Rafa went they’d see what happens under a new boss so I’m trying to keep the faith.

07/04/10 08:14 AM Torres: Liverpool will bounce back with Rafa
KopTalk Team KopTalk Team Administrator Offline
KOPTALK sources are of the opinion that Torres will seriously consider a summer exit unless there is significant investment in the team this summer.
Manchester City will be favourites to sign him should George Gillett and Tom Hicks make him available for transfer. Chelsea would also obviously be linked.

Rafa Benitez

We all know that we’ve had a terrible season and we all know that we have terrible owners, so there has been speculation all season long in the national press – and on every LFC forum on the net – that Rafa will either jump or be pushed.

In October, the Daily Mail reported that the club cannot afford to sack Benitez, as the compensation he would be due could amount to £20m. Later that month, the same paper claimed that Rafa was off to Real Madrid. The Mirror stated that his job would be on the line if we failed to qualify for the Champions League knockout stages, with Mourinho and Rijkaard in line to replace him. In November, the NotW said that Benitez will be sacked if we don’t finish in the top four and that Martin O’Neill will take over. The following month, The S*n said Mourinho was being lined up to replace Rafa. Four days after this article appeared in Oldham’s favourite rag, he was suddenly claiming that he had a “source” close to Mourinho. That’s quite a coincidence.

In December, the Telegraph stated that we had sounded out Roberto Mancini before he moved to Man City. Late on in January, The Times, Daily Mail and The Independent all reported that Rafa was off to Juventus. The following month, The Mirror said that Liverpool are keeping a close eye on Alex McLeish’s contract talks at Birmingham, with a view to bringing in the Scot as a replacement for Benitez at the end of the season.

Later in the month. The NotW claimed that Rafa will take over at Real Madrid, with Mourinho the first choice to replace him. The Daily Mail stated that Benitez would earn an instant £16m payment if we sacked him. On March 21st, the NotW again said that Mourinho is very interested in becoming our next manager, but he would only take the job if Hicks and Gillett leave. The following day, the Italian press was again stating that Rafa would take over at Juve. The NotW reported on March 28th that Benitez was likely to leave, with Mourinho, Rijkaard or Dalglish to replace him.

This month, the Corriere dello Sport has again repeated the claim that Rafa is off to Juve. That’s at least 15 reports in the national press in recent months stating that Rafa will leave, with O’Neill, Mourinho, Rijkaard, Dalglish or McLeish touted as replacements.

Now let’s see what 41 euros per year buys you on KopTalk – a mixture of the blindingly obvious and the obviously fabricated:

04/04/10 12:24 PM Re: Martin O’Neill [Re: kingofkop]
Dunk
Editor
This is an interesting post because last week a source of mine said we may have to consider someone who knows the English league and who can get the best out of a squad on limited funds *if* we can’t land Mourinho, Rijkaard or similar. But if he’s not happy with Villa’s money, would he be happy at Liverpool? Personall I still think he’d take the job.

04/04/10 05:00 PM Re: Rafa could have no arguments if he was sacked tonight [Re: Iver]
Dunk Editor
Rafa’s gone. His agent has been trying to negotiate his golden handshake for a while. Watch this space.

04/04/10 05:53 PM Re: Poor Transfers + Poor Man Management – Change Needed [Re: RedCraig]
Dunk Editor
Rafa’s agent has been negotiating his pay-off. The offer is still on the table from Juve. Rafa knows he’s off unless something dramatically changes on the ownership front and even then, I doubt he’d stay.

04/04/10 06:02 PM Re: If you were Rafa? [Re: drogred]
Dunk
Editor
Rafa’s agent is negotiating his pay-off. He’s off in the summer unless he’s sacked before. Things can change but I don’t see it.

04/04/10 06:24 PM Re: Summer [Re: L_F_C]
Dunk
Editor
I’d take a bet that Rafa will be gone this summer unless something dramatically changes.
I personally can’t see Mourinho coming in unless we have new owners. He’d love the job, the club etc but he’s not a Hodgson, Moyes or O’Neill.
New investment may help secure an attractive managerial name but I can also see us recruiting a less attractive name (to some) but with more experience of the English game e.g. another current Premiership manager. Dalglish would also take the job.

06/04/10 01:55 PM Re: My take on Rafa [Re: koppite7]
Dunk
Editor
Whether Rafa goes or not in the summer, I’ll be happy either way because I will just accept it.

08/04/10 01:36 PM Re: Juventus, ultimatum to Benitez. [Re: mtw]
Dunk
Bad date.
The offer does exist though and surely they need to know soon.
I’m informed his agent has been trying to negotiate his pay off.

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