The S*n on Koptalk. Again.

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42 Responses to “The S*n on Koptalk. Again.”

  1. Lloyd Says:

    It would interesting to know at approximately what time the ad first appeared on KT. The earliest reference that I have seen to it was on EST, at about 9:10ish (as pointed out by Red Lion Landlord).

    It was still running at 01:30am (thursday) but it now appears to have been removed(??). I’ve refreshed the page quite a few times and it doesn’t look like it’s there now.

    Did it go up by accident Dunk, and you removed it as quickly as you could?

  2. RedRedRed Says:

    What a complete and utter cunt of a website.

  3. Red Lion Landlord Says:

    I see d*nks posted on his blog at 11.23 that they are having “delays” and “numerous upgrades”. Thats just to excuse it appearing in the first place though I imagine.

  4. RedRedRed Says:

    What a load of shite. Upgrades of any serious nature would tend to force the site to shut down during the upgrade.

    Lying bollocks.

  5. red from oz Says:

    i didn`t think this piece of crud could get any lower.
    it(dunk) has proved me wrong.
    anyone still being a member of that vile site after this maggot AGAIN has a s*n advert isn`t entitled to call themselves a liverpool supporter.
    does any one still have any doubt about this dog and his anti liverpool site?
    if you do you are mentally defective.
    oldham you are a filthy low life cunt of a creature.
    RIP the 96.

  6. Paul.S Says:

    We’ve had a couple of S*n cockups (on EST) due to google, the first instance was when we’d forgotten to add the .net version of their Domain name to the filters, the second when it was being advertised via eBay through Google Ads….

    HOWEVER, Google AdSense is a whole different animal to banner advertisements. You have to SIGN UP to banner advert affiliate “programs” and manually add that affiliate’s code into your banner rotator etc. Banners will never “just appear” on your site, for these exact reasons… for instance, you’d be pissed off if you sold CD’s on a website and a CD WOW banner “appeared.”

    – Paul.S

  7. silent but deadly Says:

    There have been too many of these for them to be accidents.

  8. lfc_michael Says:

    After last time, you’d make damn sure, by scrupulously checking, that it couldn’t happen again.

    Paul.S, are you saying there that he’d need to have manually added them as an advertiser?

    It’s an utter disgrace. These aren’t tiny Google ads; it was a large banner that anyone would see. As others have said elsewhere, if it had been a suicide post, it would’ve been down in 10 minutes. You watch: he’ll use the excuse that he was painting, etc. It’s very convenient how this happens on a day when he claims to be doing something else, as it gives him and his apologists an excuse.

  9. Redz Says:

    He uses the S*n banner because they offer more money,also that rag think it will gain some kudos with Red fans.
    Scummy twat an there is no excuse for his involvement with it.

  10. sawyerinsider Says:

    fecking disgraceful yet again

  11. lloyd27 Says:

    So it would appear,from what we are reading, that Dunks use of the scum ad could easily have been prevented – yet he made no effort whatsoever to stop the rag’s logo being splashed right across a supposed “LFC” site.

  12. lloyd27 Says:

    I just CANNOT believe this —— after initially believing that he had removed it sometime during the early hours, I now go to his site, refresh the main page a couple of times – and up pops the scum ad. I really doesn’t care one jot for the sentiments of red’s supporters.

  13. Ian Says:

    It’s no coincidence he’s done this now, he’s been reading the blog , and what’s gone on over the last few days. He thinks he can get away with a lot more now show him the truth.

    P.S. Nick if you read this don’t you think it’s clear now that you should leave KT. Go and ask your brother who posts on RAOTL if you should post on a site which advertises the S*n.

  14. Harold Insider Says:

    So it’s now been on the site for 16/17 hours?

    Thats just unbelievable, has anyone on KT made a thread about it yet?

  15. Harold Insider Says:

    So its been on KT for around 16 or 17 hours now!!
    Thats just unbelieveable, has anyone asked him on KT about it yet?

  16. chapeau du soleil Says:

    Is anyone actually surprised?

  17. Red Lion Landlord Says:

    Im only getting a blue square ad, I haven’t seen the other one since last night.

  18. dataimaginary Says:

    Nick, Nick are you there Nick?

    Good work people, he’s obviously trying to get away with as much as possible at the moment. I wonder how much judas money he made from those s*n adds?

    I expect he’ll be trying other stuff too so we have to be vigilant.

  19. lloyd27 Says:

    I can assure everybody that it was there today at approx’ 13:00, as per my post above – and I even screen captured it – just so there’s no disputing the fcat.

  20. Koptalk Outsider Says:

    Looks like he’s removed the fastclick banners and replaced it with his standard Bluesq ads. All the ads that were there yesterday are now gone.

  21. Scouse Says:

    Was it definately fastclick that was serving the sun adverts?

    If so was it fastclick from the last episode when again, the Sun adverts were running for days whilst Koptalk played gullible.

    I’m sure fastclick doesn’t just put random banners on people’s sites and that you have to add certain advertisers to ‘pools’ which get rotated.

    To any newcomers this isn’t the first time the scumbag has ran adverts for the Sun….
    https://koptalkinsider.wordpress.com/5-the-s-oldhams-arse/

  22. Nick Says:

    I’m sorry, but I never saw anything but the Blue Sq Bet advert for the last few days. Its very hard to believe some of you guys in the rare visits you make to Koptalk saw a s*n ad and me who visits that site at least 10-15 times a day never saw a s*n ad.

    I can only report what I see.

  23. lloyd27 Says:

    Yes Nick that really is “very hard to believe”. Mind you I suppose there’s only one of us who appears to have our head up our arse.

    Nick – “”Again a story made up and those that hate Dunk just want to believe it””.

    If you choose not to believe screen shots that were captured 12 hours apart that’s you prerogative, you’re either very naive or you’re just here to try and cause trouble – i’m sure it’s the latter – and on that note – ciao.

  24. Ian Says:

    Lloyd of course he’s trying to cause trouble people are best just ignoring him. I mean he frequents the only LFC site you have to pay for how daft is that.
    Here’s an idea Nick why don’t you run back to KT check all the rumours about Torres and look at the times, then go and look at some of the free LFC sites and look at the times on some of the threads there and see if there’s any difference in the timeline surely with you paying £30 for inside info you’ll be getting info far earlier than any other site even the offal.

  25. MrH Says:

    He claims he has no say in the ads on his site. I think thats probably true. But after this happened the first time, why did he not make sure it didnt happen again?

    What an arse.

  26. Harold Insider Says:

    MrH – This is what Paul S from EST1892 had to say on the matter
    ‘We’ve had a couple of S*n cockups (on EST) due to google, the first instance was when we’d forgotten to add the .net version of their Domain name to the filters, the second when it was being advertised via eBay through Google Ads….
    HOWEVER, Google AdSense is a whole different animal to banner advertisements. You have to SIGN UP to banner advert affiliate “programs” and manually add that affiliate’s code into your banner rotator etc. Banners will never “just appear” on your site, for these exact reasons… for instance, you’d be pissed off if you sold CD’s on a website and a CD WOW banner “appeared.”
    – Paul.S’

    Nick – ‘I’m sorry, but I never saw anything but the Blue Sq Bet advert for the last few days. Its very hard to believe some of you guys in the rare visits you make to Koptalk saw a s*n ad and me who visits that site at least 10-15 times a day never saw a s*n ad.’

    Do you really think that the people on this blog only visit KT
    on rare occasions? A lot are still members and visit more frequently than you claim to visit yourself, why not have a look at est1892 there is a thread about the s*n ads on there ( I think on RAWK and TLW too but not 100% sure) and you can see for yourself.
    The blog is here to let people know what a con man, fake and liar Dunk Oldham is, if you choose to pay yor £30 and believe what he tells you thats your perogative, we can’t make you believe the evidence we have here, have you read all of the blogs articles?
    And if you are so happy and content with the service you get then why are you visiting and posting on here? Go ask Dunk about the s*n ads and see what response you get.

  27. Nick Says:

    lloyd27 said:
    Yes Nick that really is “very hard to believe”. Mind you I suppose there’s only one of us who appears to have our head up our arse.

    Nick – “”Again a story made up and those that hate Dunk just want to believe it””.

    If you choose not to believe screen shots that were captured 12 hours apart that’s you prerogative, you’re either very naive or you’re just here to try and cause trouble – i’m sure it’s the latter – and on that note – ciao.

    I can only say what I see. I accept that as I am the only person saying it it must seem to some that I am lying. I cant do anything about that as I would be honestly afraid to give my details out on here as I would be scared that, given the level of hate towards Koptalk I might become a target.

    I’m sorry that we cant have a genuine debate. I would really love to know how some people got the s*n ads and I didnt.

  28. Nick Says:

    Ian said:

    Here’s an idea Nick why don’t you run back to KT check all the rumours about Torres and look at the times, then go and look at some of the free LFC sites and look at the times on some of the threads there and see if there’s any difference in the timeline surely with you paying £30 for inside info you’ll be getting info far earlier than any other site even the offal.

    I dont doubt thats true! But I am not paying just for that on Koptalk. There is some good banter. Downloads, general chit-chat that I dont get on the offal site, which is populated by a younger audience.

    I admit if I was a member for exclusive info only I wouldnt be paying Koptalk as I’m not sure if they have much if any, but I repeat its much more than that. It really is free choice.

  29. Nick Says:

    Harold insider said:
    Do you really think that the people on this blog only visit KT
    on rare occasions? A lot are still members and visit more frequently than you claim to visit yourself, why not have a look at est1892 there is a thread about the s*n ads on there ( I think on RAWK and TLW too but not 100% sure) and you can see for yourself.
    The blog is here to let people know what a con man, fake and liar Dunk Oldham is, if you choose to pay yor £30 and believe what he tells you thats your perogative, we can’t make you believe the evidence we have here, have you read all of the blogs articles?
    And if you are so happy and content with the service you get then why are you visiting and posting on here? Go ask Dunk about the s*n ads and see what response you get.

    I am visiting and writing now because I think a balanced view helps those who are still open to debate. My sense of fairplay has been offended by some of what goes on on here and for that reason I am writing.

    I am still open to hear any truth about Dunk if its there, but so far its all smoke and mirrors.

  30. deiseach Says:

    “I’m sorry that we cant have a genuine debate. I would really love to know how some people got the s*n ads and I didnt.”

    Well, people got those ads and Koptalk deserves to be pilloried for continuing to take that rags thirty pieces of silver.

  31. Harold Insider Says:

    Nick- ‘I am visiting and writing now because I think a balanced view helps those who are still open to debate. My sense of fairplay has been offended by some of what goes on on here and for that reason I am writing.
    I am still open to hear any truth about Dunk if its there, but so far its all smoke and mirrors.’

    I see you ignored me saying ask Dunk about the s*n ads.
    Also why is your sense of fairplay offended? why are you so sure that Dunk isn’t a liar or a con man? Why don’t you visit other LFC websites to see what they think of KT?

    I’m finding it a bit confusing that you believe wholeheartedly what Dunk says without proof yet we have pages of screengrabs from KT you don’t believe it and say it’s not real proof…weird that.

  32. Ian Says:

    Nick seriously go to 6CM or better still EST it’s free if you like KT you’ll like it there. Neither are my cup of tea but if you like Kt you’ll feel at home there.
    Nick your right it is about freedom of choice but the internet is global you can attract hits from anywere. Remember Nick £30 isn’t the same everywhere, it’s a lot of money to some people I just find it a shame that some people’s first introduction to LFC on the net will be by this fraudster.
    Nick at least read through the paypal threads on the blog then ask Dunk on KT about what was said in them and then tell us what he says that shouldn’t be to hard should it.

  33. Koptalk Outsider Says:

    Nick. Put aside the ads a bit and read the articles I linked to in the other thread. You will see how Dunk admits to have the s*n delivered, that it doesn’t bother him, that he uses it for his news. Then tell me if you think koptalk is a site worth visiting, never mind paying for. the banter and debates are just as good, if not better, on other LFC forums that are free, and you can discuss everything without being censored like on koptalk. You can even send PM’s to other members if you want to discuss things in private. You can’t do that on KT.

  34. Insider Insider Says:

    Just popping in briefly again, might get some time to catch up on emails and everything later. Just wanted to help Nick out a little.

    Nick: Do you know how to get up the cached version of a page in Google? And do you know how to view the source of a webpage?

    I actually have Fastclick as one of the blocked domains on my broadband router. They’re one of the most likely sources of annoying pop-ups and intrusive ads. By blocking them off at the router the computer itself never gets to see them.

    I never saw the ads myself either – because I had the block in place on my router.

    What I can tell you is that Duncan Oldham has edited his web page templates to remove the ads from Fastclick.

    If you use Google’s Cache on a lot of his pages they have crawled quite recently, as recently as yesterday. But some of the less popular pages are still showing the cache from a week or less ago.

    For instance this page:

    http://www.koptalk.coN/listing.php?subid=205 (url edited to avoid giving Dunk some free page-rank).

    can be seen as it looked on the 30th June here:

    http://72.14.209.104/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.koptalk.coN%2Flisting.php%3Fsubid%3D205

    (Change the coN to com in both urls to actually use them)

    If you look at the source on the two versions of that page you can see that Oldham has removed the code for Fastclick from that part of the page and replaced it with an ad for Blue Square.

    Look at this comparison of the two versions of the code:

    All that proves is that Oldham has done away with fastclick. There’s little point refreshing the page now because he’s removed that code. For the time being at least.

  35. Nick Says:

    II,
    My son is away at the moment. He is far more technical than me. When he comes home I’ll get him to read yr reply and after he shows me how to do that stuff I’ll keep an eye out for s*n ads and I’ll challenge Dunk then.

    Koptalk does however have a “dont buy the s*n” banner on the frontpage permanently which seems a contradiction.

  36. Harold Insider Says:

    Nick how long have you been a member of KT?
    If its any longer than a few weeks then you should be used to contradictions!!

  37. Koptalk Outsider Says:

    The fastclick banners are back. Just not on the front page.

    As far as I can see fastclick ads are provided by ValueClick Media. Koptalk is breaking a lot of their terms and conditions it seems. Does anyone have time to send them an e-mail? I’m off now. I’ve marked some of those I think he’s breaking.


    ValueClick Media does not accept web sites that:
    1. Produce, provide or link to:
    adult content
    sexual content
    profane content
    illegal drugs or related content
    hate speech or hate graphics content

    2. Engage in, promote or facilitate illegal or legally questionable activities such as pirating, hacking, spamming and infecting

    3. Are hosted by a free service, are personal home pages, provide free URL redirection, or do not own the domain they are under

    4. Are under construction

    5. Sponsor “incentivized clicks,” or “pay-to-surf” programs, or use resident desktop objects such as bars and window frames

    6. Use timed banner rotation or other “auto-loading” methods

    7. Consist mostly of forums (chat, message boards, etc.)

    8. Have more than two 468×60 banners per page, or an excessive amount of advertising in general

    9. Distribute or promote spyware

    10. Contain non-English web pages

    11. Generate less than 3,000 page views per month

    Ad Placement Requirements
    1. Banner, Leaderboard, Skyscraper, and Wide Skyscraper creatives must be placed within 600 pixels of the top of the Webpage (above the page scroll/fold)

    2. Advertising can only be placed on approved root URLs

    3. Only one ValueClick Media ad code per format, per page view

    4. ValueClick Media Pop-Under windows cannot be launched from websites that launch more than a total of two pop windows
    For Complete Terms & Conditions see the Publisher Agreement.

  38. lloyd27 Says:

    Nice work KO – for the benefit of the disbelievers i’ve captured it at 8pm – clearly he has no intention of getting rid of it.

    So far as Dunk is concerned money is the be all and the end all – never mind the fact that the rag danced on the graves of the 96 – he doesn’t care.

    And frankly I am offended that he has the nerve to have links to the hopeforhillsborough website on his homepage. You are scum Dunk.

  39. Vincent Says:

    Nick – you’re ignoring a lot of the links being put up here by people who are trying to help you. I get the feeling you’re looking for attention, or maybe you’re just lonely?

    The people here have done all they can to help you. Were I in your position, I’d have sussed out by now that there’s something wrong.

    Yet you seem reluctant to listen (for whatever reason).

    I suggest we move on. Nick is aware of the blog now and we’ve done all we can to educate him. We need to aim our efforts at those members in Koptalk who are still ignorant.

  40. Chrispy Says:

    Just out of curiosity, how do you block them at the router? I’d love to do this if possible.

    Back on subject, whilst i’m a visitor of both forums (although i’m here much more now due to LFC info being posted first here) if Dunk has allowed any S*n adverts to appear on Koptalk then it’s a kick in the teeth for the 96 who died and all the surviving relatives and friends.

    For shame.

  41. Vincent Says:

    Chrispy – I remember you from Koptalk (I was once a member there too!).

    I’m can’t answer your first question (I’m sure someone else here will though).

    Have a look on Est1982 if you think we’re making the Sun adverts up. My own opinion is that Dunk enjoys rubbing our noses in it.

    I guess it’s hard to accept when you trust someone and they let you down. All I’d ask you to do is read some of this blog (especially the bits highlighted on top) and make your own mind up.

    We can only educate, you make the decision.

  42. Chrispy Says:

    I don’t doubt the ads have showed up on there. These last few weeks i’ve had a very weird feeling about it all and the screen grabs confirm them also.

    I’m left in disbelief that an LFC forum owner would allow such things to go on.


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