Oldham works on his defence and bans a member of the jury

by Rupert Insider

Yesterday was a day of mixed messages on KopTalk.

First there was Oldham’s Master Class on how to make money from LFC fans by claiming to be an “Insider”. He boasted he was very good at it. And he explained his technique. Be controversial, be different, stand out from the crowd. But he never said a word about being honest and truthful.

It was a typical self-congratulatory KopTalk thread entitled “What enticed you to become an Insider” – another opportunity for cultees to pay homage to their leader.

But Todda, one of the members, replied to the effect – I was conned into thinking KT was full of people in the know, and after a year I haven’t really seen anything that I couldn’t find anywhere else and the “Informer” is bull.

He was banned instantly (see commentary after this thread from Josh) . No doubt we’ll hear later that he was bullying the lurkers.

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This was followed by the daily ration from the KopTalk Insider service – the “official” news from LFC.

It was not under the guise of the Informer this time or the Horse, but from Ste3 – who is Steve’s organ-grinder aka as Duncan Oldham.

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The Informer is one of his techniques of (a) absolving himself of direct responsibility for selling lies to LFC fans (b) while at the same time suggesting that someone very close to Horse – Rick Parry – considers Oldham so important that he should be kept fully informed of the most minute details of Parry’s work on transfers.

But as this post shows, Oldham encourages his paying members to get caught up in the guessing game. He does not mind them suggesting he is the Informer.

As long as they say it and not him – its having your cake and eating it too.

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So what else needed doing?

Well he had to keep working on his defence. He reads the blog more keenly than anyone else – including all the comments. He sees the references to his Insider scam being a major fraud. He does not know exactly what’s going on but he knows enough to be worried.

So he has another go at rationalizing his censorship that is designed to prevent paying members from learning what the genuine LFC sites are saying about his Insider scam.

In the process he takes the opportunity to say – “wot an Insider service? – not here – we’re legit”.

But he forgets, as he often does, that he has just boasted how good he is at it, just made another claim to “Insider” sources at Melwood and just participated in thread entitled “What enticed you to become an Insider?”

And before anyone asks why the members of KopTalk don’t see through it – some of them do. Apart from Todda standing up to the KopTalk bully and getting banned for it, I got all the screen shots shown here from several current KopTalk members.

Thanks to them for sending in the evidence and thanks to Oldham for providing it. Keep it coming.

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12 Responses to “Oldham works on his defence and bans a member of the jury”

  1. Andy Says:

    Oldham keeps lying about KT having been “free to all for many, many years”. KT has always had pay-only areas since 1999. It has never been free to all.

  2. Mitja Says:

    Eric Bischoff (the chairman of WCW and a great wrestling promotor, now works for WWE) published his book, entitled “Controversy Creates Cash”. And it’s true, due to the cotroversy in best years of wrestling (1996-1998), WCW gained millions and millions of dollars.

    Dunk’s doing the exact same thing, bringing controversy … But usually, the controversy is himself so he ends up with an egg on his face. Poor old kunt …

  3. DAVE the BRAVE Says:

    TEAMtalk now shows comments to news articles below the article itself. If you’re registered it might be worth posting a link to this blog on any of the biggest stories on the off-chance that someone on KT will post a link to the TT site.

    Just a thought…

  4. Josh Says:

    In that thread, asking why we joined koptalk, i posted a reply basically saying i was conned, next time i went to log on i was banned.

  5. rupertinsider Says:

    Josh
    I have added this to the post. Correct anything that’s not right. You want to give your KT user name? And have you cancelled your automatic renewal notice on PayPal and demanded the balance of your membership fee?
    ___________________

    Amended:

    It was a typical self-congratulatory KopTalk thread entitled “What enticed you to become an Insider” another chance for the cultees to pay homage to their leader. But Todda, one of the members, replied to the effect – I was conned into thinking KT was full of people in the know, and after a year I haven’t really seen anything that I couldn’t find anywhere else and the “Informer” is bull.

    He was banned instantly (see commentary after this thread from Josh) . No doubt we’ll hear later that he was bullying the lurkers.

  6. lfc_michael Says:

    ‘But he forgets, as he often does, that he has just boasted how good he is at it, just made another claim to “Insider” sources at Melwood’

    The only ‘sauces’ they have at Melwood are the ones they have on their chippie dinners when they take a lunchtime break from standing on wheelie bins.

    And there he is at his best again, with point 2 of his edict on posting snippets from elsewhere. Does he really think that other LFC-site editors NEED to post on his forums to get attention? Alexa stats show that almost any mainstream independent site you care to check comfortably outranks him, and they all happily link to one another; only he is scared of his so-called rivals. Perhaps his members should question why.

  7. Scouse Says:

    So of all the sites paranoid censoring Koptalk allows you to link to they choose the spammiest and most UN official sites out there: teamtalk, clubcall and tribal football!

    These guys are just as guilty of spamming Newsnow with unfounded stories as Koptalk was (note was they were kicked for this) Weren’t clubcall behind those old premium rate ‘inside info’ type phone lines?

    It seems Koptalk base their business model on the above.

    Still trying to kid everyone they aren’t outsiders and the bitter rivals, jealous types and numpties are the reason behind charging LFC fans £30 per year for false and misleading information.

    “Admittedly some sites are dramatic” – I wonder where could I have possibly encountered this before?

    Keep digging your own grave disgraceful Koptalk…

  8. Josh Says:

    My name was Todda on the forum.

    I never opened my gob but always knew what was going on, i just thought i’d paid for it, mayaswell use it for a bit. Even though all he pretty much does is search the net and reproduce stories that anybody with half a brain could find using newsnow and walkon etc. And then uses the money he generated from robbing us to fly away and buy fancy cameras and so on, any of the other people that run liverpool sites would do the same, probably more if they had the funds generated by Oldham.

    This blog will eventually be the downfall of koptalk but its just getting it across to everyone.

    And on the post i got banned for i basically said i was conned into thinking the place was full of people in the know, and after a year i havent really seen anything that i couldnt find anywhere else, aswell as the informer being bull.

  9. Josh Says:

    Just cancelled my subscription, and can i really demand the balance of my mebership fee? I only had like a month left?

  10. rupertinsider Says:

    Josh

    Yes. He makes a big show of paying small balances like that. Open a support ticket (keep a copy) and demand the specific amount .

    Or

    you might want to go straight to PayPal and demand a refund of your entire subscription, on the grounds (a) that KopTalk sells memberships under false pretences that it supplies information to members from insiders at LFC but its owner forges false information using different pseudonym’s and (b) you were prepared to remain on the site to debate this but the owner banned you when you answered a question as to why you joined in the first place.

    You can then give an url to the blog post today.

    You can find the Refund Procedures set out under KT-PayPal Fraud in the tool bar at the top.

    If you do use it let us know what happens it could assist others.

  11. Warren Says:

    Josh, I always liked your posts on KT it was obvious you knew what was going on.
    Dunk still owes me my refund.

    He’ll only pay me through paypal and I don’t have an account!!

    I was wondering if it would be possible to set up a blog paypal account that way when people leave they would have the option of donating to the blog, that would really rile Dunk.

  12. rupertinsider Says:

    Warren

    I appreciate the kind thought, but Oldham would be delighted if the blog started to take revenues of any kind.

    Why not open a new PayPal account for yourself – or maybe you are like me. I have one but they messed up on my debit card claiming it was no longer live. Even when I got a senior official of my bank to call them in a conference call with me on the line – even getting to one of their senior officials – they said that they were so automated they could not undo their mistake. I would have to provide them with a different credit or debit card number – which I refused to do.

    So if you cannot open PayPal account why not have Oldham pay it into a friend’s PayPal account from whom you can collect.


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