Another Koptalk Whopper – Oldham ditched News Now not vice versa

by Rupert Insider

This is the letter the blog received from the chairman of News Now on 2nd January 2007

________________________________

Dear (Edited),

I am sorry to be writing to inform you that effective immediately
KoptalkInsider will no longer be featured on NewsNow’s services.

Its primary subject matter – Koptalk – is no longer one we wish to
feature on our LFC feed and, incidentally, Koptalk has now also been
de-listed from NewsNow.

I wish you and the rest of the Koptalk Insider team the best of luck in
your future endeavours.

Sincerely,


Struan Bartlett
Chairman

_____________________________________

In a post that same day I informed blog readers of the development and gave the background which led to the decision. See that post HERE.

News Now cut Koptalk instantly, but our last posts on their service lingered for another couple of days. Actually that’s the day we achieved our highest ever number of hits – 12,449 and our posts were No. 1 and regularly in the top ten on News Now.

Now you have the information about how Koptalk got kicked off News Now Compare the documented truth with Oldham’s latest big whopper today.

He ditched News Now, he says, and may got back to it if it suits him.

The lie is barefaced, as are all his lies. When you have seen one you have seen them all.

Its difficult to understand why members who pay him put up with being lied to daily over matters large and small. You have to wonder about the joint responsibility of some of his cronies who help him maintain a culture of lies so that he can then defraud LFC supporters especially those who don’t live in the UK. You can understand his motive – personal financial profit. But what’s theirs? Surely it can’t be because they get free membership in his site as long as they do his bidding?   I’m afraid only the cult analogy comes close to explaining it.

It also makes one appreciate all the more those who have the independence and courage to speak up and call him to account.
(Thanks to Paul for the scans).

#154990 – Today at 12:05 AM Out of Interest
TheSlurm TheSlurm
Gold Member Registered: 18/05/05
Posts: 58
Loc: Cheshire
How come Koptalk no longer appears in NewsNow? I use this all the time on the basis that if you see the same story repeated a multiple of times from different sources then its more likely to be true. Koptalk used to be in there. I’ve just noticed that that is no longer the case! I think you’re missing a trick there!
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#154995 – Today at 12:10 AM Re: Out of Interest [Re: TheSlurm]
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 18411
KopTalk is a members only site now. As we only provide a brief intro to a news item and the odd editorial we can’t really be included. If we went back to fully non members then we’d probably go back on. If you are included on such a feed it only attracts the casual (lazy) visitor who simpy monitors that for updates. I’ve also noticed it’s full of more blog type sites now rather than the higher end sources that used to be on say in the early 2000’s. Feel free to email me if you have any suggestions or questions. PS: I never miss a trick _________________________
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#155002 – Today at 12:15 AM Re: Out of Interest [Re: Dunk]
TheSlurm TheSlurm
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Posts: 58
Loc: Cheshire
Well that’s a brave decision as quite a lot of people use it. I would’ve thought having a listing there would help widen your user base as it pulls more eyes to the site. Well there’s one of my suggestions for you!
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#155004 – Today at 12:18 AM Re: Out of Interest [Re: TheSlurm]
Dunk Dunk Administrator
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Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 18411
People do enough promotion for us without us having to put in much effort. We’re not looking for global dominance. We’re happy with the current set-up. It’s just about right these days. We have more members than this time last year and more continue to join every day of the week. It’s quality not quantity that counts _________________________
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#155096 – Today at 02:00 AM Re: Out of Interest [Re: Dunk]
donaldlp donaldlp
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Registered: 06/05/06
Posts: 1360
Loc: England

Originally Posted By: Dunk

It’s quality not quantity that counts

Oh Dunk, you’ll make me blush!

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17 Responses to “Another Koptalk Whopper – Oldham ditched News Now not vice versa”

  1. Jonathans Punk Bucket Says:

    More members now than this time last year? More joining up everyday of the week?
    Really Dunk is that real members or fake ones you’ve made up and post on behalf of? Why not show how many members are online just like every other forum I’ve ever seen? Are you really down to your last hundred or so members? In June/July when the majority of their memberships expire and they don’t rejoin will you be totally up shit creek?
    He tells these lies so often he actually believes them himself. How sad. It smacks so totally of desperation when the top 5 posters on a forum are the owner, his lacky step brother, some ‘cousin’, one of the mods and DMH pioneer.

    Your time is up up KOPTALK please bring the boat back in.

  2. Come Insider Says:

    ha ha give him credit for trying to save a sinking ship 🙂 theme for titanic anyone???

  3. rupertinsider Says:

    Last summer he said new memberships were “going through the roof” – and a couple of weeks later he closed the free forum on the grounds he could not afford them.

  4. rupertinsider Says:

    We’re not looking for global dominance. We’re happy with the current set-up. It’s just about right these days.”

    So what happened to global dominance? Remember this comment?
    ___________________

    Paul C
    This site just gets better and better! Well done guys. Are there still people out there who believe his lies??

    I’ve only commented on here once before. But my ugly dealings with the fat one came around 8 years ago when I used to run a successful LFC website – and his underhand tactics, even then, were so evident.

    In an e-mail exchange with him in about 1999 I remember him saying something along the lines of “there will only be room for one lfc site – and i will do anything possible to make this happen – anything..” I can provide more info on some of the things he used to do to drive visitors away from my site to his….nasty piece of work i remember thinking at the time…

    Keep up the good work guys…

    Apr 28, 10:46 PM

  5. rupertinsider Says:

    “We have more members than this time last year and more continue to join every day of the week. It’s quality not quantity that counts”

    So if he has more than 6,000 members – which is what he claimed last year – why is he saying“its quality not quantity” that counts?

    But what’s more interesting is why more Koptalk readers are not picking up on these obvious contradictions – unless its because nobody is reading his posts on Koptalk, nobody is visiting Koptalk.

    He’s right in one respect, he gets more readership from the blog than he does on his own dying site.

  6. btb Says:

    Why are there so few posts on each topic if there are more than 6000 members. As stated if you exclude him, steve, richt and dhm pioneer then there are hardly any posts. Who is DHM Pioneer as well he has appeared from no where.

  7. btb Says:

    Great to see tht ZICO hs gone awol, all his insider info about investment that was soooo wrong.

  8. rupertinsider Says:

    transferred from Insider Comments:

    # shaunstrudwick Says:
    May 3rd, 2007 at 12:51 pm e

    i cancelled my K*ptalk sub today

    had heard a rumour that Dunk wasn’t on the up and up – but i didn’t believe it at first – discovering this site has made me change my mind

    thanks

  9. rupertinsider Says:

    Congratulations shaun:

    Be sure you cancel any automatic renewal on your PayPal account or Oldham will take your money even after you have left. Also be sure to demand a refund of any balance on your current membership fee.

    For a guide on how to check and clean your PayPal account go here and scroll down to the second article:
    https://koptalkinsider.wordpress.com/kt-paypal-fraud/

  10. zico Says:

    Zico here. Got banned from Koptalk but my inside information was soooooooo right, until the decision, taken extremely late in the day, by Moores alone, to sell to Gilett instead of DIC. Only Moores and Parry knew, as they were concerned that Insider info was being released by a bloke called…err…Zico.

  11. rupertinsider Says:

    Are all your sauces so hot?

  12. Paul C Says:

    Hi,

    Just in addition to my earlier comment on here:

    “This site just gets better and better! Well done guys. Are there still people out there who believe his lies??

    I’ve only commented on here once before. But my ugly dealings with the fat one came around 8 years ago when I used to run a successful LFC website – and his underhand tactics, even then, were so evident.

    In an e-mail exchange with him in about 1999 I remember him saying something along the lines of “there will only be room for one lfc site – and i will do anything possible to make this happen – anything..” I can provide more info on some of the things he used to do to drive visitors away from my site to his….nasty piece of work i remember thinking at the time…”

    Some of the things he used to do:-

    1) He’d clearly copy and paste some of the stories I’d put up on the site. This was evident because some of my spelling mistakes we’re in ‘his news articles’. I’ve tried to get some waybackwhen archives of this but to no avail as of yet..

    2) He contacted Barry Venison directly soon after Barry had started writing articles on my site – and lured him away offering him better exposure for his bid4sport.com site. Barry personally rung me up to say this, saying that Koptalk says they had “a much bigger audience” and they would give him access to his “user database”.

    3) Back then link sites were quite a good way of getting traffic – I used to know someone who ran a football diretcory/link site and had to ban his site due to illegal ‘hits’ adding up on Koptalks listing.

    4) I used to get e-mails from lfc fans constantly even back in 1998 saying how it was obvious that Koptalk was conning fans with sensationalist headlines on newsnow.

    5) Back then he was tough on his forums – I repeatedly got banned as my username was my site name.

    There are a few more bits and pieces that he did – I’ll add them soon.

    Cheers once again!

    Paul

  13. sawyerinsider Says:

    Paul C,

    thanks for your comments, very interesting. Out of general interest what site did you run?

  14. didihno Says:

    ‘blog type sites’
    Brilliant!
    Oh my, I think I actually pissed myself at that one.

    I really thought he would give up the ghost after the porn thing was made public.
    You guys really should have nailed him on that one.

  15. rupertinsider Says:

    Paul C

    Are you saying he did not pay Barry Venison but offered him as payment access to the KT data base – members addresses – for Barry’s own site?

    My recollection is that BV was on KT sometime around 2000?

    Oldham made quite a fuss about it. I recall that there were a few non-committal columns and maybe a questions and answer thing, like he tried with Jan Molby, and then it just petered out.

    I think Barry Venison was trying to get work as a guru or commentator and then he started to apear on one of the TV stations.

  16. rupertinsider Says:

    There are more blogs now listed on News Now – and other unofficial sites – and even the Echo and the Official Site – since we got Oldham kicked off. He was taking up so much mind share. He was stealing the content from everyone and relabeling it Koptalk.

    Give me an original blog any day than one of Koptalk’s rants or its cut and paste pieces.

    I really recommend LFC RSS which you can find in the left column of this page. It has a great cross section of LFC blogs and unofficial sites really well-presented.

    http://www.lfcrss.com/

  17. zico's psychiatric nurse Says:

    come on now zico – back to your room, time for your medicine!


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