Earlier today I bought a copy of the Liverpool Echo and had a good read of an article which gave a totally different interpretation of the leaked document Mihir Bose had claimed to have seen earlier this week. He wrote a complete doom and gloom article about the DIC investment deal, but it didn’t come as a surprise really. I’ve read a few of his “stories” in the past, and my bullshit detector twitches like crazy. As he is someone who’s written books on Manchester United, probably one of their supporters too, I wouldn’t expect him to write anything positive about LFC, and I’ve seen many completely incorrect stories of his about LFC’s investment prospects over the last couple of years.
In fact Bose is now joining the BBC, where he’ll be stable mates with the despicable Kelvin MacKenzie, possibly the most well known bullshit spreader when it comes to Liverpool FC. I hope they’re happy together, and I’ll be watching out for more lies, but hoping I don’t see any. When it comes to spreading bullshit about LFC there’s nobody does it more regularly than Duncan Oldham of course.
The Echo article spoke about how DIC would be giving Rafa Benitez transfer funds, contrary to what Bose was claiming in his swansong article for the Telegraph. It also explained what the document really said about selling the stadium in seven years – it was part of a list of options in a business plan, not an actual intention. Anyone reading it as being a definite plan to sell the club and/or the stadium in seven years is either very naive or a shit-stirrer.
Further inside the paper is the pink “Football Echo” section. I’ve not read it all yet (it’s always good for a chuckle to read the bits by the blue journalists) but I’ve read the bit on Peter Crouch. It was written by Chris Bascombe, and included quotes from Rafa Benitez saying that Crouch wasn’t going anywhere.
Common sense tells you this. Why the hell would Liverpool sell one of the three strikers they have been using this season without first bringing in a replacement? Most games Liverpool will start with two of the three on the pitch, and depending on how the game goes will bring the other one on at some point. If we’ve got two games in close succession one of the two who starts on the weekend game will be on the bench for the midweek game. If Robbie Fowler gets his fitness back he should start getting involved more too, but Rafa’s not going to be relying on that at the moment. And just to underline this a little more for the slower fat people, we lost one of our strikers to injury during today’s match, hopefully he’ll be fit for the New Year’s Day game, but we can’t be sure.
Also today (on one of the forums) I saw mention that in the printed version of two broadsheets there were articles talking about how Peter Crouch’s agent was responsible for trying to stir things up with the media. Crouch’s agent is also Ashley Cole’s agent in case you didn’t know, so he hardly has a reputation most of us would be proud of. Google for “tapping up”, “Chelsea”, “Ashley Cole” for more on that. The two broadsheets in question did not carry this story on their websites – either an accidental ommission or perhaps a demand had been made by the agent not to carry the story. The same forum carried a comment later from the owner of the forum, someone who has contacts at the club (he’s got Jamie Carragher’s mobile number for example), saying that Crouch’s agent had indeed been stirring things up. He also spoke about how Crouch was still as down to earth and genuine as he’d always been. Crouch may have been having some troubles on the pitch recently, and the vultures who looked daft for calling him when he first joined have been circling in wait, but he’s not been trying to leave the club at all. He wants to stay, Rafa wants him to stay, only shit-stirring agenda-driven people with no love for LFC would claim otherwise.
Which brings us onto Dunk – Duncan Oldham, Koptalk owner and all-round Konman.
One of his members, “seanrogers100” did him a service. He gave Koptalk’s readers the nearest thing to exclusive insider information they’ve had in months. None of the members who had any slight insider information or contacts still post on Koptalk, long since gone from a site so repulsive to genuine Reds and decent people once they know the truth. Dunk has no contacts himself, not even a gateman (as he sometimes claims) and certainly not Rick Parry as he also used to claim until we proved how much that was complete nonsense. Sean might know all about Dunk’s anti-Red ways, and about Dunk’s hatred of people who have real contacts at the club, and so could have been posting the Echo articles as a way of getting up Dunk’s nose. I hope so, but it’s also possible he was just trying to be helpful to his fellow (few) Koptalk members. Whatever it was, fat Dunk didn’t like it. Picture the scene as Dunk spits pie in twenty directions at mention of one of his arch-enemies (the articles from Saturday’s Echo don’t go on the net, meaning fat Dunk can’t rip them off and use them as his own. He’s only got access to the Newcastle equivalent)…
#60898 – minutes seconds ago
bascombe on crouch
for a few of you who i know dont get access to the football echo on a saturday.
in the football echo today chris passed on some comments which have probably been said off the record by rafa – i actually agree with them and have been saying them for a while:
he basically said – “since crouch came back from the world cup he seems to be entirely focussed on goals but is not getting the performances he did when he was on his goal drought and last season. Rafa backed him to the hilt when he was playing well but more importantly working hard and it is clear his application this season has not been what it was. Rafa quotes” he knows that i supported him last year when he missed chances because of his all round performances. I will continue to back him”
Now i agree with chris/rafa/both as i noticed mainly at homne to portsmouth this year how annonymous he was. Think back to that chavski game in the cl at anfield last year. he was awesome all round the pitch. Almost unplayable. This season he has scored some good goals but taking them away when was the last time you saw him play really well?
I want to keep him and chris makes the point that rafa has been trying to tell crouch that he does not need to move to progress his carear which suggests the stroies are coming from newcastle/his agent/or both.
there is no chance of him being sold this season but i think rafa is losing a little faith in him. We bought him due to his performances away from home and this year in 11 starts away from home he has only started three times.
Next games he plays wlets hopoe he plays well outside the box as well as in it!!!
come on the crouch!
Edited by seanrogers100 ( minutes seconds ago)
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#60901 – minutes seconds ago
Re: bascombe on crouch [Re: seanrogers100]
Thanx for that sean,if crouch is still at liverpool next season i would be very surprised
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#60904 – minutes seconds ago
Re: bascombe on crouch [Re: Kop_5]
JD JD Moderator
Crouch will be hear next season.
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So far so good. Kop_5 – it’s time you stopped helping Dunk out by being one of his few non-moderating posters. He’s hardly got any posters on his site who aren’t either admins (i.e. family) or mods (i.e. people who should know better, like Rich Tea and JD).
Now for the real fun. As we said, picture fat Dunk’s pie getting spat at his computer screen, picture the can of cider falling to the shed floor. How dare someone post Chris Bascombe’s real insider knowledge on his site.
Dunk doesn’t do insider news. He does bullshit – and how well he does it….
#60908 – minutes seconds ago
Re: bascombe on crouch [Re: seanrogers100]
Dunk Dunk Administrator
Crouch is available. Newcastle have offered £7million, Liverpool turned it down. Word was put out that £12m was what LFC had told Newcastle, this was leaked to the media to tempt people to come in a little lower thinking they’re getting a bargain. He’s definitely up for sale if someone comes in. If we say he’s for sale then potential buyers will lower the price. Newcastle, Villa, Pompey etc all want him.
Oh dear Dunk. This is worse than your bullshit about Noel White. (For anyone new to the blog, Oldham claimed Noel White wasn’t the board member quoted by the Mirror slagging off Rafael Benitez. Even though many other sources and informed LFC websites were saying otherwise. And even when David Moores forced White to resign Oldham tried to make out it was still someone else who’d gone to the Mirror. Dunk is that stupid!) So Dunk, who told you this then? Earlier in the day you were using a clip you’d stolen from Sky of Phil Thompson talking about Crouch. Thommo is a former Red. A former coach. He works for Sky. He talks about what he thinks he knows. Is he going to betray a confidence on national TV? He’ll only do it once, because next time he’ll not have anyone’s confidence!
Duncan – you looked an idiot with your Noel White lies, now you look an idiot with your Crouch lies. You want him out, and if your voice had any kind of influence you’d be trying hard to get him out. Maybe you’re still trying hard, but you’ve no credibility. You’ve got a few members left who maybe still fall for your crap, but that’s all. You can’t get rid of Crouch – you’ve not got the power. Like you never had that tape of him talking to the S*n in the summer.
I think one of the funniest bits of the bullshit is “Newcastle, Villa, Pompey etc all want him” – who’s “etc” then? Come on – you can’t actually use “etc” in this kind of story! Who else wants him?
Newcastle may well have been sounded out by the agent, but Dunk you’d not know that. You may be a season ticket holder and fan of Newcastle, but you’ve no contacts there either. You’re not actually a Geordie, you’re someone who was drummed out of Scarborough, probably frightened to death of who you might bump into round there. And the Geordie’s don’t like being compared to a piece of scum like you. They’re actually decent people in the main, even Ant and Dec aren’t all that bad!
I also enjoyed this next bit of vintage Duncan, posted in response to someone pointing out that Kuyt hadn’t scored for a bit. Perhaps hinting that Kuyt was as likely as Crouch to be sold, seeing as both were Rafa’s own signings, both were playing quite well without scoring:
#60916 – minutes seconds ago
Re: bascombe on crouch [Re: Rborhara]
Dunk Dunk Administrator
Kuyt has been a bit iffy recently which is a shame but we all know that it takes time to settle, plus his old man is seriously ill which is a distraction. I’m sure he’ll come good.
Dunk tries hard to make his bullshit fit any facts people throw at him – and he bans anyone that really makes him look a dickhead. Which could explain why Kop_5 and JD post replies as if they actually believe Dunk – they don’t want to be banned. I hope it’s that, rather than them actually being so gullible as to believe Dunk really does have knowledge from inside the club! How gullible can anyone be to actually believe Dunk knows more than Chris Bascombe? Chris is a qualified journalist who went to Uni to study journalism and actually gets to speak to Rafa Benitez just about every day of the week, and other players and officials from the club at very regular intervals. Dunk is a lazy Konman who left school without any qualifications and got kicked out of the army (probably for being lazy) before setting off on his career to rip anyone off he could. The closes he gets to Melwood is to stand on a bin looking over the wall. He no longer has his season ticket for Anfield so doesn’t even get inside Anfield that way any more.
Sean was less worried about being banned, pointing out that Dunk was completely wrong with his bullshit statement. Either he’s not bothered about being banned, or doesn’t realise that he soon will be. Never question anything said by Dunk or one of his aliases. NEVER…
#60917 – minutes seconds ago Re: bascombe on crouch [Re: Rborhara]
bascombe stated at times last year that lfc will not evolve until crouuch is our plan B and not our plan A. Whether you agree with him or not it appears that rafa thinks the same way.
I just feel that players of his type are very difficult to get hold of and are vital in english football. Would you sign him for la liga? Of course not but here is different.
He will get better with age as he has no pace anyway and i see no reason why he would want to leave.
I hear what you are saying Dunk but bascombe not only used rafa’s quote in the paper but also in his own words said crouch will be going nowhere unless rafa’s mind changes in the summer.
Bascombe normally leaves an issue silent rather than end up with egg on his face e.g. were we to sell crouch in jan i will be sending him an email asking why he printed stuff today!!
No chance of him going in January in my opinion.
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#60918 – minutes seconds ago Re: bascombe on crouch [Re: Kop_5]
JD JD Moderator
Originally Posted By: Kop_5
even if we get Big bucks to spend in the summer ?
well every player has their price mate.
Just seems to me that rafa certainly is good at realising if he aint happy with a player he has bought. However, Crouch aint done nothing wrong in my opinion. You need 4 strikers and Fowler aint upto much so think its being hasty to say the least.
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#60925 – minutes seconds ago Re: bascombe on crouch [Re: JD]
no imo crouch hasn’t done anything wrong to be sold but maybe he has been showing his discontent and maybe rafa is growing impatient with him and if we get money to spend can we do better than crouch,i wonder how jon carew would do for us
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#60930 – 57 minutes 35 seconds ago Re: bascombe on crouch [Re: Kop_5]
JD JD Moderator
Crouch hasnt done anything wrong. I think its just a case if Rafa is going to get alot more money he wants better quality. However, I hope he doesnt make the mistake of selling him and not having someone else lined up. He did that with Owen and mucked up by not replacing him at all.
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JD, Kop_5 – Dunk is a know-nothing fat conman. Stop believing him over people like Bascombe. And if either of you donated to the Koptalk Alder Hey appeal, are you glad your money paid for Dunk’s Christmas booze order? He’s STILL not shown a single receipt, or a single screenshot, as he promised he would, from the Alder Hey purchases.
Why not? What is he hiding? How much profit did he make from it? It only takes a few minutes to scan some receipts in after all.