As expected, Duncan Oldham’s “Alder Hey Appeal” has turned into the “Duncan Oldham How Dare They Sabotage Us Appeal”.
How exactly have we sabotaged this then Duncan?
Have we told people they shouldn’t donate at all, or have we showed them how to donate in a much more efficient way?
Have we told people not to donate at all, or have we just pointed them to alternative ways of donating – ways which include a registered charity number?
Have we told people not to donate at all, or have we told people to consider whether or not you can be trusted with this money?
We’ve given our reasons as to why we don’t think you can be trusted.
You’ve actually given other reasons why you can’t be trusted too though haven’t you? Hacking into people’s user accounts to post as if you were them, and then pretending you hadn’t? This was this week. Over the past months we’ve shown you are a conman and a thief Oldham, and people who see why we say this will not donate a single penny if it has to go through your hands.
Is that what you mean by sabotage? Warning people about you? We’ve not told a word of a lie about you, Duncan.
Readers of this blog, current and former Koptalk members or not, might still want to give money to Alder Hey. I’ve set up a page on JustGiving.com – http://www.justgiving.com/notdunk for anyone who wants to donate now. Have a good look around that site to see how it all works. Thanks to the UK rules on “Gift Aid”, the first £25 donated was actually upped by an extra seven quid, so keep that in mind if you aren’t sure if you can afford much. Even one pound would be something, and if you’re British would be upped by 28%.
At the same time though, don’t feel pressured into giving to this particular charity. If you’ve got some new toys that you’d like to donate, why not get in touch with a hospital or other worthy cause near to home. If you’d rather give to a research charity for something that means more to you personally then again – give to that cause instead.
A lot of people left Koptalk over the course of this year – if you’ve not spent the membership money you saved yet then why not donate a little bit of it to this charity?
Whatever you do though, don’t trust Dunk. Seriously.
And Dunk, we know you read this (after all, you keep pointing it out on your site) – what did you do with all that money collected in Lauren’s name? Why were there no acknowledgements from Lauren or her family? You owe it to your readers and all those who donated, but instead you hide behind excuses that we are “attacking” you. We aren’t. And if Lauren does need any help, I’m sure a lot of ex-members of your site would still donate to her, as long as you and your mam weren’t near any of the money.
What I am going to ensure though, is that every penny that you collect gets handed over to Alder Hey. Every last one. If that happens, then I’m happy. I still think you set all of this up as part of some scam, but as long as you’ve got receipts for everything then who can complain.
And it’s not just me watching either.
Last night came Dunk’s pathetic and contradiction-filled post about his appeal…
#44172 – Yesterday at 10:32 PM
Sun 3rd Dec 2006 Alder Hey Update – PLEASE READ
Dunk Dunk Administrator
We’ve been inundated with support so far but our net stalkers from other sites are now trying to sabotage the appeal. (See above. Show us proof that you didn’t steal from your disabled cousin’s appeal and we’ll be able to consider trusting you. Simple really, if you’ve nothing to hide)
As made perfectly clear in advance, we don’t want any publicity for this collective event. (Even though it’s the only part of the “members” area open to non-members.) It has also been made perfectly clear that nobody can contribute to the appeal unless they state and record their donation on the site. (We’ll come back to this.) This protects both the donator and ourselves and makes it impossible for anyone to suggest any wrongdoing as receipts would be obtained from Alder Hey. (It doesn’t make it impossible to suggest any wrongdoing. However, there are further steps you can take to minimise those accusations. And where are the receipts from the Lauren appeal?)
With them now targeting the kids (Oh – targetting the kids? We are targetting you and you alone Duncan. We even wonder if your mum is just an innocent victim in your scams, getting her name tarred with your corrupt brush. Poor Steve and Katie are also blind to what you are doing. If every penny you get goes to Alder Hey, without you taking anything out for yourself, or borrowing it for a month or two to pay bills, or swapping vouchers and gift tokens you’ve already got for cash, we’ll be happy. We expect to see receipts for the purchase of gift tokens too by the way), we’ll have a word with Alder Hey to see what they want to do because the last thing we want to do is cause the kids and their parents any stress because of these people. (Alder Hey have already been warned about you.) It’s a shame because the only people that will suffer are the kids because we’ll have some great stuff to hand over. (The kids won’t suffer – as long as you hand over every single penny. The kids, and parents, won’t be near when you prove to the likes of the Charity Commission that you’ve got all the receipts for all that you collected. Simple really – unless you’ve something to hide – so stop panicking.)
I really can’t believe that people passing themselves off as Liverpool fans could stoop so low but to target kids, some of whom are seriously ill, just to get at me, is really the lowest of the low.
(The only person passing himself of as a Red here is Duncan Oldham, childhood Leeds fans and current Newcastle season-ticket holder, who just weeks ago said he was neutral and wouldn’t care if Anfield was knocked down and turned into an Asda. Do any Reds reading this know any other Red who would say and do those things? Anyone? The predictions are true though. Dunk started this appeal knowing that we’d be concerned by his past dealings with “charity” and his public promises that weren’t fulfilled behind the scenes. The predictions made by others were that Dunk would wait for us to show our concern and then turn it into one his martyr moments. Again, how are we “targetting kids”, fatso? We are targetting you, and we’ve started an alternative collection point for anyone who wants to donate. If you aren’t looking for publicity and a few renewals on the back of this, then why can’t you see this? Watch those lies Oldham, because you’re already cracking under the strain of trying to tell so many.)
Please continue to support the appeal which we’ll run for the rest of the week (as we need to conclude it in advance of Christmas). If we don’t support Alder Hey, we’ll simply select another children’s hospice, proceed with the handover and then announce on site which hospice/hospital benefited. (The first signs of a get-out? Alder Hey might be wary of touching his money? He’s already been told he’s breaking the law? And he’s now talking about doing all this secretly? Oh dear Duncan. You are corrupt to the core and you don’t care who you exploit do you?)
Hopefully we’ll take some members with us when we take the prezzies in and we’ll get some photos purely for you guys and not for the local media! It is very important to us that we receive receipts from the benefiting hospice/hospital so that everyone knows everything was in order. (Hang on. You’ve just said that you’ll do it without announcing anything. Now you’ve got plans to take members with you. You can’t stop can you? )
Basically nobody is going to stop our attempt to try and make some kids happy over Christmas. It only strengthens and educates my way of doing things 🙂 (As we’ve said, make sure every penny that comes in is accounted for. Prove it. Make sure every purchase you make, whether it’s toys or gift vouchers, is recorded. It won’t take long. Send me the proof, and I’ll find a volunteer to check it all for me. If it all adds up we’ll report it on the blog. But while you’re at it, why not do the same over that Lauren money?)
This is one I said I’d come back to. He said, from the beginning, that he would only accept donations from people who left their name and the details of the amount on the Koptalk website. Above, in his Sunday rant, he says, “It has also been made perfectly clear that nobody can contribute to the appeal unless they state and record their donation on the site.” So why has he allowed this then?
#42999 – 02/12/06 10:30 AM
Dunk Dunk Administrator
$500.00 received from one of our members who wishes to remain anonymous
Pedantic that I raise the issue of an anonymous donation, which is against the self-imposed rules created by the one-time Sky Card condman? Possibly, but he said he won’t let anyone donate anonymously.
I hope he remembers to include this sum in the amount of cash he’s going to eventually hand over. What’s $500 in UK sterling?
That post was made on Saturday morning at 10:30am, but by last night at 10.55pm it still hadn’t been added to the list of donations. Why not? 36 hours later and the largest donation hasn’t been included.
Here’s the list as it looked last night (see the edited time at the bottom rather than the time of this post)…
#42446 – 01/12/06 12:40 PM
LIST OF DONATORS TO ALDER HEY CHRISTMAS APPEAL
KOPTALK.COM KOPTALK.COM Administrator
This list shows every member who has made a donation by way of Argos gift voucher, PayPal or other means. If you wish to buy your own gift for Alder Hey to take along with us or for us to take for you, you can do so but such gifts have to be new and they can only accept certain things. We can put you in touch with them for assistance.
MEMBER AND AMOUNT PLEDGED AND RECEIVED
Dunk £10 Argos voucher – NOT RECEIVED YET
prfowler1000 £10 Paypal – £9.51 RECEIVED
Kop_5 £10 PayPal – £9.51 RECEIVED
Yorky_Red £21 PayPal – £20.19 RECEVEIVED
Gazami69 £20 Paypal – £19.22 RECEIVED
harvey £27.00 Paypal – £26.02 RECEIVED
christhepool £20.00 Paypal – £19.22 RECEIVED
vincelfc £21.00 Paypal – £20.19 RECEIVED
randyrhoads £21.00 Paypal – £20.19 RECEIVED
domdom £10.50 Paypal – £10.00 RECEIVED
danfrost £11.00 Paypal – £10.48 RECEIVED
bigfooty £10.50 Paypal – £10.00 RECEIVED
Monkey1974 £21.00 Paypal – £21.00 RECEIVED
lathom46 £21.00 Paypal – £20.19 RECEIVED
Frank2005 £12.00 Paypal – £11.45 RECEIVED
Newo £10.00 Paypal – £9.51 RECEIVED
Frodshamred £21.00 Paypal – £20.19 RECEIVED
Fox £51.00 Paypal – £49.32 RECEIVED
Joey £10.00 Paypal – £9.51 RECEIVED
niners £10.50 Paypal – £10.00 RECEIVED
salforal £10.50 Paypal – £10.00 RECEIVED
ADB86 £20.00 Paypal – £19.22 RECEIVED
philipbreen £25.00 Paypal – £23.95 RECEIVED
Andrew £21 – £20.19 RECEIVED
godersbe £15 – £14.36 RECEIVED
GIL33 £10 – £9.51 RECEIVED
DMHPioneer £10 – £9.51 RECEIVED
Barosx2 £10.50 – £10.00 RECEIVED
Lagos_Red £50 Argos – £50 RECEIVED
kawkijeff £10.50 – £9.94 RECEIVED
JD £50 – £49.45 RECEIVED
fatheadmurp 25 EURO £16.83 – £16.11 RECEIVED
se7ens £10.50 – £10 RECEIVED
rjroche559 £10.50 – £10 RECEIVED
Maltesekop £21 – £20.09 RECEIVED
drummeral £10.50 – £10 RECEIVED
Havmi65 £20 – TBC
Gordy Boy £10 Argos – ORDERED BUT NOT YET RECEIVED
Pwillis £10 Argos – ORDERED BUT NOT YET RECEIVED
oldstuff Nintendo Wii Console NOT RECEIVED YET
mtw178 £20 Argos – ORDERED BUT NOT RECEIVED YET
Slimie £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Lucky £20 Paypal- NOT RECEIVED YET
son_of_kenny £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Dan W £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
GetColin £20 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
TommySmith £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Hall10 £20 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Skellington Xbox 360 game – NOT RECEIVED YET
Riz £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
justino £10 – NOT RECEIVED YET
WeirdFish1 £30 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
slugfest £15 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
chrispy £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
funkyman £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Istanbul05 £30 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
robp £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
irishredrover £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Bunnifer £20 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Coylie £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Mimir £49 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
RedHuw £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Bolthead £20 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Stevonb £20 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
anfield33 £20 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
VinceL £50 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
muffer £20 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Redand £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
McleanRichard £10 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
gagsy44 £10 – NOT RECEIVED YET
RedAllOverEd £20 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
jameslfc £40 Paypal – NOT RECEIVED YET
Marcel £26 Paypal- NOT RECEIVED YET
robbie5 £20 Paypal- NOT RECEIVED YET
keeon8 3 XBOX 360 Games- NOT RECEIVED YET
thomas £20 – NOT RECEIVED YET
Dicey64 £20 – NOT RECEIVED YET
Turnstiles £20 – NOT RECEIVED YET
TOTAL RECEIVED: £638.11
Edited by Katie (Yesterday at 10:55 PM)
We’re keeping an eye on you Dunk, and we’re hopeful that by doing that we’ll stop you from turning this into a new scam. We’d love to hear the truth about Lauren’s money, but we know that we won’t, because you’ve stolen some of it. If we’d been around when Lauren’s fund first began then she’d have got every penny pledged to her, not you.
If anyone reading this is good with spreadsheets why don’t they store this information on one for us. Let’s keep an eye on things together. And you can access this appeal without being a member too remember (koptalk.coN/members). As many people as possible please keep an eye on it (watch out for posts being deleted with people having just paid via paypal for example).
One way or another, those people who’ve handed over their money must not be disappointed. Not again.