Touching cloth at Koptalk HQ

Duncan Oldham’s headline reminded me of a saying that I personally hadn’t heard until a Geordie said it one day. Without being too graphic about this, where some people might say things about turtle’s heads, this Geordie spoke of “Touching Cloth”. As soon as I saw this headline today, I subconsciously mixed up “Touching Base” and “Bull Shit” and got “Touching Cloth”.

Sorry to go on. Duncan’s latest update…

Dunk    KopTalk Daddy
Reged: Aug 20 2004
Posts: 8818
Loc: KOPTALK
The source touches base
#1577171 – Fri Jul 28 2006 08:40 PM
While recording tonight’s podcast – which we had to scrap as a result and record it again – my source touched base regarding investment.

None of the interested parties (*the individual potential investors of which there are more than 1) are approaching the club because Moores doesn’t want to sell.

I could talk more and more about it but it’s boring. If you really need to know listen to tonight’s podcast that will be on the site soon.

Nobody believes the club will have any money come 28th September, they are all expecting Parry to say that they are exploring other avenues of investment etc etc etc blah blah blah.

Reports in the local press this week claimed the club are talking to parties and are at an “advanced stage”. No coincidence that this was published just before the Objective 1 committee meeting.

You scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours, right?

No more finance and investment talk from me until September

* There are several people, persons, interested parties but none are making moves. Although all out for themselves, they all share the same opinion that Moores doesn’t want to sell and until he comes out and says he does, they’ll hold back because there’s not approaching if Moores won’t go further. In my opinion the club are trying to hold off on investment and just try and find a sponsor for the stadium. Kenyon’s out of the country working on commercial partnerships… Parry’s watching the lads train.
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Told you it was bullshit. I really don’t know where to start with it, so I’d appreciate if one of you financial experts that read this blog would leave some comments on the issues. I’ll point out the bit that nobody in their right mind would have to stop a podcast recording and then have to re-start it because of one phone call. Even in bygone times when people recorded things on cassette recorders they had a pause button. Duncan probably thinks they filmed Lord of The Rings in one take. Sorry, I’ve gone full circle here, we started off talking about rings.

I think the bit about holding back just in case Moores won’t go further was another quite funny bit, but I’d like someone who understands these things better than me to rip this to shreds. The only other financial advice I’ll give here is to save your thirty quid, because that’s the sort of crap you’d be paying for on the Insider.
Just wanted to point out very briefly how the signs that Koptalk is dying are there for all to see. This post from someone who’s been a member for nearly four years is a good indication of the decline of Duncan’s empire –

rik    Silver Member
Reged: Oct 05 2002
Posts: 498
Loc: Bangor
What had happened? Have I missed something?
#1576746 – Fri Jul 28 2006 04:13 PM
Friday afternoon when nobody in their right mind wants to do any work yet Koptalk hasn’t had more than 64 users all afternoon! Where is everybody?

What have I missed?
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I’ve noticed this kind of comment more and more lately, and I think it’s only a matter of time before it becomes a banning offence on the two sites.
Earlier on I posted extracts from a thread where Dave Usher (TLW) and Elisha (YNWA) were mentioned by a Koptalk user as having predicted Kuyt would be signing today. In case the post made you think they had said these things, they hadn’t. And I’ve no idea why Duncan Oldham would want to call Dave Usher, other than through jealousy. Dave Usher’s not sat in an old shed tonight pretending he’s getting phoned up by top-class businessmen over investment moves at Anfield. And if he wanted to sit in a shed pretending such things, he’d not be wearing a blond wig and recording himself chatting to a seventeen-year-old boy. (Unless I’ve missed something!).

One of the blog’s unpaid, self-appointed and extremely helpful researchers posted this for us earlier to clear up what Elisha and Dave U had said about Kuyt.

Whois Lookup  Jul 28, 7:53 PM

Neither Dave U nor Elisha have claimed Kuyt was signing Friday.

In fact they’ve said the opposite – we won’t sign Kuyt without selling two or three fringe players first (Dudek, Traore, Kromkamp).
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Whois Lookup Jul 28, 8:13 PM

Elisha’s only comments in the last four weeks on Kuyt were: “I think we will need to sell before a forward is bought. Djimi, Dudek, Kromkamp maybe? The money just isnt there for Kuyt or whoever at the moment.”

http://www.ynwa.tv/forum/index.php?showtopic=107282&st=660&p=1428369&#entry1428369

27th July 2006, 12:58 PM

Dave last comments on Kuyt were: “Alves would have taken up virtually all the cash Rafa has left. As it stands, he still needs to sell before he has the money for Kuyt, but if he’d bought Alves he’d have to raise a lot more cash. Clubs aren’t exactly lining up to take our unwanted cast offs.”

http://forum.liverpoolway.co.uk/showpost.php?p=461655&postcount=494

26th July 2006, 01:23 PM

His only other comment in the last 10 days when asked about Kuyt was: “I haven’t heard anything recently, which is why I haven’t posted anything. When I hear something, you lot will be the first to know!”

http://forum.liverpoolway.co.uk/showpost.php?p=461455&postcount=413

26th July 2006, 11:21 AM

There’s no charge to go there for those snippets and more if you want them – you have to register free of charge to join YNWA. If you’ve any trouble registering at YNWA they left an address on here the other day you can get in touch with to explain your problem. Failing that email me and I’ll pass it on to them for you.

If this person leaving this comment is the one I think it is he’s another person who’s met more Liverpool players than Duncan Oldham could dream of. And he’s done more for the official site than Dunk could ever possibly hope to. It’s a good example of how Dunk steals anything he can to claim as his own, and how he often falls over his own lies. Again this was left in comments earlier tonight. Thanks DT.

DT Jul 28, 8:37 PM

Mr. Oldham is an embarrassment to the Reds internet community. He would do well to look at Dave Usher for input on how to behave on the internet and how to run a forum. Dave’s made no fortune off his site or fanzine, but at least most people – TLW users or not – respect him for what he is, a genuine red.

The best example I can think of to illustrate the difference between the two is when Dave broke the story that Liverpool were about to sell Danny Murphy (to Spurs who were looking like signing him before he went to Charlton instead) and Oldham rubbished the story. Oldham had previously hinted that Murphy was one of his sources, yet only a few hours after having declared that the TLW story was rubbish, I’m fairly sure he claimed it as an exclusive. Wouldn’t he have known about it before Dave, if he knew Murphy?

No wonder Duncan’s touching cloth. I’d say he follows through a good few times a day too.

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