Oldham the Conman

Dunk claims he’s not bothered with this blog or the “haterz” as he calls us. Despite this, every other video on his moanvideo site, and most of his tweets are about us. In fact he talking, tweeting and thinking about us all the time. I can understand why though, as we’ve managed to reduce the number of people he is ripping off by several thousands in the three and a half years the blog has been running. Today he made a tweet with links to three different websites where he’s addressing us. On one of them there is a long speech where he tries to defend himself from some of the issues we’ve brought up on this blog. How does he even know what we say when he claims that de doesn’t read this blog? The truth is, he’s one of our most avid readers. Here’s what he says:

Who’s the liar? Dunk or George?

Sorry I’ve not been around a lot of late, there’s a few reasons for that but you don’t want to be bored by those…

Dunk seems to have hated the fact that not much was happening on the blog. Rupert’s been busy and had only limited access to the net, so didn’t post much. Not that much was really happening. Then I wasn’t around to mock fat-fingered Dunk over his last-ditch trip to Barcelona.

Dunk’s trip to Barcelona wasn’t cheap, well not cheap for him the way things are at the moment. He’d not been planning to go, but in one of his manic moments he had told the blog (via his members) that he was going to go then after all. A sort of “Stuff you” moment. He lied that he was even taking his wife with him. The wife he keeps trying to pretend is still with him. Well that trip to Barcelona was attended by Dunk, Steve and Steve’s dad. Maria (Dunk’s wife) was never going to go. Dunk wasn’t going to go either but once he was into his manic moment he had to spend a bit more of the remains of the money he still had left in that Pay Pal account he used to collect money “for Lauren” last year.

He went to Barcelona. He took photos of Steve drinking beer. He took videos of Steve drinking beer. He put the photos and videos of 17-year-old Steve drinking beer on the net. We also got video of the threesome’s breakfast. He probably got a ticket for the game too (they were on general sale on the day of the game to locals or non-UK passport holders so it wouldn’t have been too hard to get one). I say “a” ticket, singular, because as far as I know all the pics of the new face of Koptalk (Steve) had stopped by then. The same camera that was used to take pictures of fast-fattening Steve outside the Nou Camp was used to take a few photos inside the Nou Camp. But no Steve, no Dunk. In fact it could have been carried inside the Nou Camp by someone unconnected to Koptalk. So much for Dunk showing us a picture of him holding that day’s paper inside the Nou Camp as proof he went.

All that effort, all that trouble, and – purely by coincidence – the blog pretty much ignored it. It doesn’t take much imagination to conjure up a picture of him hitting F5 on the blog with those fat fingers, hoping we’d finally talk about it.

After all the criticism he’d had, you’d think he’d be glad to have a rest from the blog. But it seems the blog has become a big part of his life. And we were ignoring him. A toddler who’s being ignored by his parents will draw all over his favourite toys with permanent marker. Dunk, a fat balding middle-aged waster with the mental capacity of a toddler felt much the same. But he did his permanent marker thing on his own site.

He made outrageous contradictory claims about cozy chats with George Gillett, the new co-chairman of Liverpool FC. The man who Rick Parry says will probably wander into the Kop one day to chat to fans. As owner of Montreal Canadiens he’s made a point of trying to keep close to the supporters, he wants to do the same with Liverpool FC. ‘Ah ha!’ thought Dunk. An opportunity…

So Dunk announces that his latest member is George Gillet. And that was the last straw for a large number of previously floating members. People who had doubts about Dunk, but gave him the benefit of their doubt. People who thought Dunk was being unfairly attacked, but weren’t 100% thinking that way. Not even 99.9%. It all seemed too far fetched, and this was pointed out.

Dunk deleted post after post, thread after thread. Even his own posts were deleted as once again a Koptalk-Kover-up started. Dunk had lied himself into another mess, dickhead that he is.

Today he posted this…

#109767 – Today at 10:47 AM
George Gillett – Final Word
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com

Registered: 08/20/04
Posts: 16426
If people don’t believe George Gillett is a member, please take your conspiracy theories to websites that are better suited to your way of thinking. Suggestions that we’d make such a foolish claim up are insulting to everyone connected to this website.

Whether someone here is a VIP or an ordinary Red based in Liverpool or Libya makes no difference to us, everyone is treated the same. I’m sure George had every intention of watching/subscribing to a wide range of LFC sources both official and non-official.

The reaction by some on other sites has been nothing short of pathetic and all they are doing is making Liverpool fans look stupid. I expect George will make a retreat from getting involved with various fans websites, fanzines and groups if petty Reds trouble him, his people and the club.

I expect to be sued if GG isn’t a member

I also expect his presence will be played down by those in officialdom.

If those on the net who are obsessed with KopTalk put as much effort into supporting LFC they’d be the biggest Reds in the world.

Once again Dunk shoots himself in the foot by referring to other sites. Most people who already visit other LFC sites know about this blog – because just about every other LFC website has shown some support to this blog. Even the official LFC website. But those members who still live in that little world where Koptalk is there only source of LFC information might not be aware of the blog. Every time he mentions “other sites” though he leads yet more members our way. He’s too thick to realise this (even though we keep telling him).

I’ve not done that much reading of the net since his claims on Thursday, but the only places I’ve actually seen the Gillett fantasies mentioned are here and on EST1892. And because of that – according to the fat-fingered-fantasist – Gillett will now instantly cease looking at any Liverpool related websites – even the official site! Dunk – don’t be such a dope.

Anyway, it wasn’t the final word. With another thread deleted another member was annoyed. “Marcus50bucks” wanted to know why Dunk was yet again being so defensive. He cannot take criticism. He’s the boss at Koptalk and if you don’t like it you can just do one.

#109765 – Today at 10:46 AM
Gillett thread deleted!!!
marcus50bucks marcus50bucks
KopTalk Member
Registered: 07/05/04
Posts: 2764
Loc: Nottingham
ffs dunk please tell me why the thread was deleted? It’s not like the thread got out of hand, I and others were merely giving our opinion on your latest news. it seems everytime a person has reservations about your posts, it gets deleted. However if I was to express doubts about posts from other members, that post would still exist. We are not always going to agree with you on issues and you should be able to take things with a pinch of salt.
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#109768 – Today at 10:51 AM Re:
Gillett thread deleted!!! [Re: marcus50bucks]
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com
Registered: 08/20/04
Posts: 16426
The threads are becoming tiresome. I have no problem with people having different opinions to myself. However, I won’t tolerate people coming on here suggesting we’re liars because we find that insulting. GG is a member, we’ve moved on, if people wish to doubt this claim, let them continue their investigations and then come forward to apologise afterwards.

The discussions about GG are getting out of hand, I suggest you use other sites to debate any kind of conspiracy theories.

We’re playing Manchester United in a couple of hours yet a select few are more bothered about KopTalk. That says a lot to me.

Thanks
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Excellent! Dunk doesn’t like the suggestion being made that he’s a liar.

(Update: Click the thumbnail to see two of the deleted threads.)

Here’s a question for you then Dunk (I’ve got a few). You said, in the summer, that you had renewed your season ticket, thanks to a loan of money from your mam. You constantly claim you are a season ticket holder. Well why haven’t you been to any league games this season? You flew to Barcelona last week for your publicity stunt, yet today, a massive game that you yourself refer to is taking place at Anfield, and you don’t even go. Why? Have you got a season ticket? I already know the answer – you’ve not got a season ticket any more. Someone else was sitting in your Lower Centenary seats today. And that makes you a liar.

You lied about having regular meetings with Parry, about chatting to Steven Gerrard as a mate, about having a tape that you would use to ruin Peter Crouch’s career, about being unaware of the S*n boycott in 1998 when you walked around France advertising it. The lies never stop. You lied about deaths in your family. About your daughter being threatened with rape when she was 8. Lie after lie after lie.

So, is Mr Gillett a member? Well if he’s as amiable as he’s made out to be I’m sure he could well be. That would only happen if he’d been lied to though. If someone had contacted him and asked him if he fancied joining a site that represented true views of Liverpool fans. Koptalk is a site that openly supports The S*n, even though all other fan groups and the club itself boycott The S*n. So how can Koptalk represent Liverpool fans? Would Gillett have joined a site that ignored the wishes of the vast majority of Liverpool fans that way? If Gillett knew what Rick Parry and others thought of Koptalk, would he join? What about those hints that Dunk was blackmailing Rick Parry, and that Parry was desperate for him to call in at some point? Laughable now, but at the time a lot of people really did think that Dunk had access to executives at Anfield. What would Gillett make of Dunk’s book, due out in two months, detailing all kinds of seedy goings on at Anfield?

So again let’s have a look at what Dunk claimed…

On 22nd February George Gillett personally called KopTalk out of the blue to inform us that he loved the site. He even confessed that he’d been watching our video podcasts (gulp)!

Let’s play along then. We’ll ignore the fact that Dunk won’t answer the phone unless the caller display shows your phone number, and that international calls don’t show your number. Gillett somehow found Koptalk. And phoned them up. GG’s not a member at this point of course. He’s therefore only able to read pages full of error messages, a couple of rants from an unhinged Wallsend-based manic depressive, and links to join a site for £30 offering all kinds of wonderful features. There’s nothing else to see for a non-member. Yet Dunk claimed this…

He was that impressed with the site that he wanted to become a paying member.

Still playing along, we’ll assume that Gillett was just being polite. There’s nothing really to be impressed about for an “outsider”. (Or an insider for that matter).

Now for one of Dunk’s infamous contradictions:

Naturally we offered him a free membership to take a look around etc but he insisted on paying to support us. He joined the same night using his own credit card and not one of an assistant or secretary.

It’s been pointed out on here before it needs pointing out again. Dunk defends himself from accusations of theft and fraud relating to his members’ credit cards by saying that he’s not got any way of seeing those credit card details. So how does he know how Gillett paid? Answer the question Dunk – which one is the lie? A) You don’t see credit card details or B) You saw Gillett use his own card to pay for membership to your site? You’re a liar Dunk, it’s pretty clear to all.

Because of confidentiality etc we can’t reveal his username but if he chooses to post, you’ll know straight away who he is.

No of course not. I saw somewhere else (EST1892 or in the comments here) that the only person who joined on February 23rd had a username clearly meant for us to believe it belonged to GG. This was the day after GG had supposedly paid his membership fee.

He said he couldn’t attend the Nou Camp to see us beat Barca 2-1 the night previously but he did watch it and he was very impressed with Liverpool’s performance.

So who did he speak to then? I’ve not checked, but weren’t you still in Barcelona the day after the game?

Now for the big lie.

The feedback he gave us about the site was that he really enjoyed the way that our members interacted with each other.

There is no evidence whatsoever on the free section of the Koptalk website of any interaction. The free forum was closed down ages ago. The paid-for forums aren’t visible to non-members. So how could George say he “really enjoyed the way that [Koptalk's] members interacted with each other”? He’s not joined yet! He’s not seen the forums yet! So how can he say that?

And there’s the problem – someone’s telling a lie. Who is it Dunk? You or George? Think about it. Either you’ve made that bit up, or George Gillett lied. Are you calling George Gillett, new Liverpool owner, a liar?

The rest of the message from Dunk went on…

It became clear to me that George is not only very clever but he’s also genuinely bothered about what you guys think about how the club is run etc, hence my recent questions in the ‘Development Forum’ about what you would ask him (and Tom) and what suggestions you would put forward to them given chance.

The comments you make about the club, your hopes, your wishes etc are there for George, his people and his family to read.

I’m very proud to have George here as a member, along with our other luminaries.

So, Duncan Oldham, of Swan Avenue Wallsend, owner of Koptalk.com and supporter of The S*n – who is the liar?

Did George Gillett lie about enjoying the interaction between members on Koptalk before he’d even seen that interaction, or did you lie about him saying it?

It’s a serious question, if you care at all about George Gillett and Liverpool FC you’ll answer it truthfully.

Fat chance. Because you’d have to admit being a liar.

And if Mr Gillett or “his people” are reading this – I suggest you give Duncan Oldham a wide berth – but make sure he knows quite publicly that you don’t approve of his LFC-damaging ways. Before he does any more harm to our club.