Liverpool FC Investment Saga Hots Up. So Does Jackanory Rouge Website.

by SawyerInsider

One Wallsender will be glad to hear that BBC have recommissioned a new series of the popular kids TV show Jackanory, after around 10 years away from the screens.

For Wallsend resident Duncan Oldham though Jackanory never left the screens, he’s been making a decent living off writing fiction for years. For Liverpool FC fans it’s if it never went away, whenever we want to read some made up stories, or Jackanorys, we just read about Oldhams latest tell-tales.

As any Insider Insider reader will know, Oldham has been using the imminent investment takeover as a rue to make up stories for his few remaining members, and to make them believe that he is an Insider at Liverpool FC.

He would have you believe that he has sources at the club, sources in the business of acquisitions and takeovers. The truth is, as we know, and have known for a long time, Oldham tells porkies – big fat ones. Duncan Oldham is living on his past lies, and Koptalk.con is living on borrowed time.

Here’s his latest rant, not missing a chance to get in some digs at this blog, which has helped to crumble his fraudulent incomings.

Do you know that every single time another site takes a swipe at KopTalk/myself, we get a burst of new members and/or book orders. What’s that all about? As a result we’ve stopped our paid advertising on Google’s Ads

The truth is of course that there is no “burst”, there’s been no new book deposits for years. Signups to his shockingly bad redesigned website are at an all time low, and where Oldham could once shout from the rooftops that his site was the number one LFC site (back in the ninties!), it’s now no better than 10th at best. And paid advertising? That shows how desperate he’s become to get new members.

On to his latest investment Jackanory then.

You may recall a couple of months back that I dictated a post to Steve (to post on the site) as I was in Liverpool laid in bed with a massive hangover, regarding some gentlemen that I had been introduced to at the Radisson Hotel by a concierge I know there.

Basically I received a late call to get myself to the hotel to call in as if for a random pint, so that I could then be informally introduced to these blokes who were in the city from London for a meeting the next day with club officials regarding investment.

If you recall the guys had a meeting at Melwood with Parry etc and then left to go to Leeds United in the afternoon on other business. The puzzling bit was why they were speaking to Leeds. That can’t have been connected to us surely so I assumed they were maybe doing something on a smaller scale with Bates regarding their ground or something.

Anyway, the same guys are back in the city tomorrow. They have a meeting at Melwood on Thursday and this is regarding investment. The source will not tell me anything more because of confidentiality, 100% no way, he won’t budge.

What’s interesting is how the club is using Melwood a lot these days to entertain, and not Anfield. The modernisation of the facilities makes this nice and easy and it’s much more private. Hush hush etc once those gates are shut.

Now there’s little point in us posting out at Melwood on Thursday because we know what these guys look like and what they’re called. The suits rarely go to Melwood but even if we see Moores and RP roll in it only confirms what we already know. The only advantage would be if we spotted someone else rolling in but in all fairness we have that covered as we know the official ins and outs the majoirty of the time.

Anyway, I just thought I’d update you incase any rumours start later in the week regarding the suits and/or investment.

Oh give it a rest Oldham, we’ve heard it all before from you. Do I even need to comment? Let’s leave it at that then. He has no sources. Made up bullshit.

The thread, “Investment meeting this Thursday at Melwood” then turns in to a bit of a swipe at Oldham for capitalising on the rumours and speculation. Some of his members are starting to wise up to him now, well done Desertscouser and Craig (are they wising up to the lies?)

Here’s some more in the same thread.

Yup, I hate the topic too but when I got tipped off this morning I couldn’t choose to ignore it because it’s my duty to report here.

Anything I ever pass on is in good faith and I try to make sure you know if it’s first hand, second hand or third hand because it can weaken as it goes down the chain.

However, this isn’t a rumour, this is from one of the guys who will be present and it IS to do with investment/takeover. He’s not a potential investor but he’s acting with others in relation to this subject. Because of confidentiality he and his colleagues will not talk and rightly so if we’re honest about it.

As another poster said, the fact it’s happened within a short time of Gillett putting and appearance in makes it interesting, well it does to me

Whether anything happens over the coming weeks, months or years, so be it but there is activity and just because things don’t always materialise, doesn’t mean that the club aren’t trying to do what’s right.

My personal opinion – based on the pattern I’ve seen build up since they were last in town – is that this time it’s more genuine than before. We have to remember that we’ve heard all the takeover stuff before but we’ve never had much info about the comings and goings of those involved.

While it is frustrating, people should show respect to the whole community and not just think about their own view. It is after all a forum for discussion and whether we like it ot not, investment is a topic that’s very current to the club at this time.

In good faith? Like the Torres, Joaquin, Duff, Shaun Wright Phillips exclusive to name just a few. There are hundreds of pie in the sky transfer snippets that Oldham would have us to believe he’s been privy to over the years.

So basically what is Duncan saying here, or speculating, that some business people are in town? Oh please give it a rest.

If you believe you know so much Oldham then stop faffing about with conjecture and riddles and just tell people what you ‘think’ you know. You can’t? Yes that’s right because you made it up, and you want to keep all your options open by not giving away ANY DETAILS.

If you throw enough darts at a dartboard, maybe thousands, at some point one of them will hit the bullseye. Unfortunately for Duncan he’s thrown so many darts without hitting the Bullseye over so many years that he needs a new dartboard. All that remains is an untouched bullseye.

CONFIRMED: Boycott-buster took SUN cash – blames LFC "rivals" for snitching on him

by Rupert Insider

Yesterday we exposed that Duncan Oldham has been promoting The SUN for money. Today he confirmed it.

Even though he will not allow mention of this blog on his site and bans any paying member who slips in a reference to it, we will publish his statement in full:


Adverts that appear on KOPTALK.COM are provided by advertising agencies. When they add new client adverts, we only get to see them when they appear. They do not consult us or their other publishers first. Once ads are displaying we can disable them.

We would never knowingly advertise The Sun and if you think we would, you’ve been suckered in by those connected to other LFC websites. The only ads we can disable before they appear are those that fall into certain categories i.e. gambling, adult, tobacco.

If The Sun was to run an online campaign via any of the advertising agencies we work with, then yes, their ads could appear but they would immediately be removed, as they would on any other LFC site I assume.

Google Ads allow you to block certain domains so The Sun’s website is permanently blocked. But the other two agencies do not have this kind of block.

When annoying adverts previously cropped up on here when we had the Insider section which carries ads, if a member asked us to disable an ad e.g. because it was irritating, we simply disabled it.

Thankfully our advertising is minimal now.

Using Hillsborough and the innocent lives of 96 Liverpool fans to try and score brownie points through internet rivalry is disgraceful. Shame on those responsible


He is the sole owner of his one-man site. The cash that it takes in from advertisers and members goes into his personal pocket. He boasts about his total control. “Dunk knows best”, he says.   If people don’t like it, they can “fuck off”. He claims he monitors his site 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

But today he says he didn’t know that he was promoting The SUN for money. He would never have done such a thing if he had known!

At least he did not say what he usually says when caught out in a lie or with his hand in the cookie jar: “It was a joke”.

The fact is that his SUN banners on Koptalk were first reported more than 14 days ago by a contributor to Est1892. Unfortunately, that poster was not quick enough to capture a screen shot. If you are already registered at Est 1892 the original thread is on the Koptalk Talk Forum

It was only when this blog published the screen shots and only after several other LFC sites started threads linking to the blog’s article and only after the blog article moved rapidly up News Now “Top Stories” that Oldham ducked for cover. He was waiting to measure the reaction to our article.  He was brazen enough to keep running the ads earlier today. He didn’t want to pull them too soon, if it wasn’t completely necessary. Why turn away money?

But he did pull them – and just the SUN Fastclick ads, not the others – which proves he could have pulled them earlier.

In his statement he does not offer to give the SUN cash back. It must add up to a tidy sum by now – at least 14 days of receipts.   He does not offer to donate it to the Hillsborough Justice Campaign – although I doubt that they would want his Judas money.

In the tradition of the Iraq Minister of Propaganda – he tries to revert blame.

He now claims that anyone who thought he was at fault is a “sucker”. They have been taken in by his “rivals”. And it is his “rivals” who are misusing the events at Hillsborough – events he dishonoured in 1998 when he published a photo of himself proudly wearing a SUN promotional hat.

As we have pointed out before – Koptalk is an anti-LFC site. His big project is a phantom book entitled Anfield Exposed. He classifies all LFC supporter sites as “rivals” and LFC’s “official” site as “the other side”.

He didn’t specify this blog as a “rival” – he never mentions us by name. He’s terrified that if he does his few remaining members might look us up. And if they did they would discover his “rival” reference doesn’t work with us. We do not advertise. We do not taken in any revenues directly or indirectly. We do not have forums or any of the other goodies of a supporters site. And we are not “banned former members” with an axe to grind. We have never met him or paid him a penny or had any personal dealings with him. We have free access to his site thanks to passwords donated by some of his paying members.

I will leave to the experts to deal with his claim that he had no control over the advertisements he profited from. Please use the Comments section below. If you have specialized knowledge perhaps you could email me an article for publication under your own name – or anonymously.

There is a larger question. Why was he advertising at all? In his most recent sales pitch he claims he has “thousands on thousands” of members who pay him ₤30 as well as innumerable others who pay ₤40 for an SMS service. He constantly tries to justify the membership fees on the grounds that it means he can eliminate advertisements.

The truth, as always with Oldham, is the first casualty of his bullshit. The fact is he does not have thousand of members let alone paying members. Indeed, perhaps it was because he has so few members behind the locked gates of his site, that he thought it was safe to run the SUN banner ads where only his sycophants would see them. And he did get away with it for 14 days.

He is financially dependent on the traffic from News Now to earn him hits with the advertisers. And that is why he has to steal news items from other sites, or make them up and give them a misleading headline. His Gonzales accident story the other day – for example. He took it from the news wires and claimed it was coming directly from his sources at Melwood. He headlined it “Liverpool midfielder” instead of “Gonzales” just to add a bit more mystery. And anyone who clicked on it was greeted with a pop-up advertisement. Thanks to the Gonzales’s accident, Oldham made a bit of money that day.

It should be obvious by now that every click on an Oldham piece on News Now is a penny in his pocket. He doesn’t give a shit what LFC fans think of him. As he said before “In this internet lark – always look after No.1 first”.

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Scab breaks LFC's boycott of The SUN for money

by Rupert Insider

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Well, there can be no doubt about it now!

No amount of twisting and turning by Duncan Oldham, the sole owner of Koptalk, can hide his financial relationship with the SUN.

Money, not principle, is the true reason for his long-standing attempts to undermine the LFC boycott of the SUN.

The boycott is led by LFC, with personal attention from some of its legendary and current players, spontaneously supported by scores of news-agents in Liverpool, most of the people of Liverpool who are aware of it (including many Everton supporters) and, of course, by the Hillsborough Justice Campaign representing the families of the 96 dead and the survivors who were slandered by the SUN.

Click here to go to the official campaign site.

The boycott will continue until the SUN apologises.

The editor of the SUN at the time was Kelvin Mackenzie. A few weeks ago he said he had nothing to apologise for. He said that the fake, slanderous and deeply hurtful report, which still rankles, was the responsibility of his informants, not the responsibility of the SUN.

do_not_buy_the_sun_002.jpgIn their relentless attempts to break the boycott, the SUN knew they could rely on Duncan Oldham. They knew he was not a LFC supporter but a leech on LFC. Money was his only motivation.

He promoted the SUN by wearing one of its hats at the World Cup in France in the summer of 1998 – 9 years after Hillsborough. Coincidentally, he found the money to open his web site shortly after. And it wasn’t long before he brazenly published his treasured Sun photo. At the time, when there were only three or four football web sites, his was the largest. (It is now one of the smallest).


Oldham stalked SUN reporters trying sell his made-up gossip about Robbie Fowler and other LFC players. In fact, he refers to these dirty dealings in the trailer for his phantom book “Anfield Exposed”.

He’s so pathetic he can’t get over the fact that the SUN hacks actually talked to him. Now he wants to sell his account of those shady dealings for 10 to Liverpool supporters. And some have been trusting enough to send him a ₤5 deposit. If you were one of them, its not too late to get your money back. Trading Standards is investigating him for illegal practices on this and other matters and he is under pressure to give the money back. Don’t say its not worth the bother. If everybody who paid insists on repayment it will hurt him were he is most sensitive – in the pocket. While your at it, why not cancel your membership in his site and ask for the balance of your membership fee.

He refuses to support the Hillsborough Justice Campaign on his web site. He says it is “too political” and the people who run it “difficult to deal with”. They are so different from the people from the SUN who always bring him a cheque.

Oldham tries to dress up his support for the SUN by claiming that he does not want to pressure any of the users of his site. His users are mature, he says, and can make up their own minds. They are entitled to freedom of speech.

He is a hypocritical liar. We know how he refers to his paying customers as “loons” and “children” and how he bans them when they question his practices or statements, or mention other sites, or post on them, or ask uncomfortable questions or disagree with him. He deletes posts and threads on a whim. He threatens his critics with his “underworld friends” and “hitmen” and uses their personal information, given to him in confidence, to trace their employers. He calls them at work and threatens to embarrass them in front of their employers because of their opinions. He cancelled the PM and email facilities on his site when this blog started to prevent knowledge of it spreading.

This blog has published much about Oldham’s attempt to undermine the boycott of the SUN including his boast that he takes two copies daily and steals its stories to re-sell them as exclusive to his gullible paying members.

But the SUN money connection is only one of the characteristics that makes his rogue site an anti-LFC site.

Happily, it is disappearing. You can help it go faster by supporting a boycott of Koptalk. Its something around which the unofficial sites might consider cooperating.

Use the search feature for previous articles by Insider Insider about Oldham and the SUN. For the most recent Click Here.

EDIT: Thanks to Andy, a blog participant, who submitted these three screen shots of Oldham’s site. They give us a permanent record of the Judas in action. Several other blog participants have testified that they have seen the banners on Koptalk. See “Comments” below.

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Note the SUN watermark behind the headlines.

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And here’s another.

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The LFC Predictor League leaves Koptalk for Est 1892

by Rupert Insider

lfc-badge.jpgThe LFC Predictor League is a well-moderated game in which players can test their ability to predict the detailed outcome of LFC and other games by competing with others.

It works best in an atmosphere of deep and well-informed interest in LFC and the game of football.

These requirements clashed with the business practices of Duncan Oldham, the sole owner of the Koptalk website. He stated last week what many have long known that he has no interest in LFC’s success. His site is a business, not a labour of love.

This week the Predictor League quietly uprooted itself, without fuss, and moved lock-stock-and-barrel to the LFC supporters site Est 1892

Est 1892 is free, as is every other unofficial supporters site listed in the right column of this page under “LFC Sites”. Only Koptalk charges.

Like most of the features that the Koptalk web-site used to have, the Predictor League was created and organised by the participants – not by the owner of the site. However, he charged ₤30 for access to it.

The reason for the move is that as much as 85% of former users of Koptalk have abandoned the site in the past five months. Many of the former players in the Predictor League had already moved to Est 1892 or other sites and did not want to play the game on Koptalk. Click here to see the independent ALEXA chart of Koptalk’s demise

The reasons for the massive dissatisfaction with Koptalk has been logged in this blog . Newcomers who want to introduce themselves to the summary analysis might begin by clicking on 2. Summary in the tool bar at the top of this page.


Edit:  The following comment on the above article was received from the founder of the game:

  1. predictor league founder Says:
    November 5th, 2006 at 4:26 am eThe demise of KT and the continous banning of players/members was too much for the game to continue over there. I have spent hours of work on the game for four years.   One day around last month I received an email from Duncan asking me to list some of the players names for database purposes. I did kindly.
    Week after week some of the players who have played the game from the start began to disappear and not play……. The game will live on and thrive at est1892.

Robbie Fowler's web-stalker revisited

by Rupert Insider

fowlerfacechin.jpgDuncan Oldham is a 32 year-old Yorkshireman who lives in Wallsend, Tyne-and-Wear. He has an unregistered business which he calls Koptalk. He runs it from the shed in his back garden.

It purports to be a website for LFC supporters. But it is better known for its anti-LFC propaganda. He dare not show his face at Anfield. Because of that, he has just announced that he will abandon his season ticket.

Last week, in a rare moment of honesty, he said he couldn’t even be bothered watching the game on TV and couldn’t care less if Liverpool won or lost or if the stadium at Anfield was torn down and replaced by an ASDA supermarket – he said he was neutral about football.

This comes close to explaining why he set up similar supporter sites for Newcastle United and Tottenham Hotspurs and Nottingham Forest.

Perhaps it also helps explain why scurrilous attacks on Liverpool players is his main gambit for drawing money-making hits to his site.

For example, he is infamous for his stalking of Robbie Fowler.

Click here to read Oldham’s infamous headline “Shut the door on your way out!”. It was aimed at Robbie Fowler.  It was a stab in the back from a guy who had made a lot of money on his bedroom-based website by lying about Fowler and stalking him for about two years.


The Fowler story is still relevant because it reveals how Oldham developed techniques he still uses. Recently he claimed to have a secret tape of Crouch talking exclusively to the S** (which is boycotted by LFC and most supporters). Then he claimed inside knowledge about Bellamy creating a dressing room disturbance just before a match. All these stories and many others turned out to be lies.

Oldham continues this week to use tabloid rumours about Gerrard’s personal life to generate hits for his dying site and to beg for new members. He also fabricated more stories about potential investors and yet more about the goings-on in the boardroom at LFC.

Like the S** which he admires, or the News of the World, which he often quotes, he tries to deflect criticism of his lies and muck-raking by wrapping it in hypocritical and smarmy statements that he runs his site as a hobby out of love of “the Reds”. In fact he and members of his family have no other visible means of support. He has repeatedly claimed to have made substantial riches from his site over eight years. Previously he was an office-cleaner and security-guard.

He says that if you are intrigued by his lies you can have more. But you need to pay him a mandatory ₤30 “donation” – ₤20 if you offer cash, with no questions asked.

Oldham has survived on the net because of LFC’s great achievements and the high reputation of its players and supporters. It is hugely popular overseas. There are always new supporters coming online. They come looking for information about LFC, or to make contact with other genuine supporters, or to connect with “the spirit of the kop”. For some, ₤30 is a relatively small price to pay for entrance to what they have been led to believe is a genuine “insider” site. For others, especially those from Asia where LFC has many dedicated supporters, it is 2-4 weeks wages.

Their quest for contact with the club is not ridiculous. They actually can find genuine information and fellows supporters on the net. There is a list of such sites on the right of this page under LFC Sites. They’re all honest, full of genuine supporters, many from Liverpool, who actually attend matches at the Kop and follow the team at away matches in the UK and Europe. And those sites are friendly and free. Unlike Koptalk, some of them have genuine contacts with the club and its players.

Unfortunately, many of the Liverpool supporters looking on the net who key in “LFC” or “Liverpool Football Club” and similar terms are waylaid by search engines which feature Oldham’s false claims that his site is No.1 ( when independent statistics show it is closer to No.12) and that it publishes “official” news from Anfield (in fact LFC has officially denied that Oldham or Koptalk has ever had any access to the club).

Some are waylaid by the automated news aggregator News Now which gives prominence to links to Koptalk.

If you are a new visitor to this blog and want to know what its about, please read Summary in the tool bar across the top of this page.

If you are a user of News Now perhaps you would consider not clicking on its Koptalk links so as not to put more money in Oldham’s pocket. You won’t miss anything. All his stories are lies or stolen from other sites and given a misleading title to entice you to click. And, in any case, anything of note on Koptalk is reported on this blog.

And the blog earns no revenues from your visits directly or indirectly.

KopTalk loses one of its few active posters

by Rupert Insider

On 23rd October, 2006 thesilverfoxlfc, one of KT’s few remaining active posters, announced his imminent departure.

His explanation on KT is that his annual membership is coming to an end in two weeks and he won’t be renewing. He invited other members to exchange emails because he will still be active on the net – but did not mention where.

That’s a very eloquent statement about Koptalk.


Silver Fox says he is from Ireland. He registered on 18th November 2005, and in that time has made about 2,260 posts.

How important was he to KT? Another poster – Gazami 69 – responded “I’m not looking forward to the next internatiohal breaks! You kept this place going during them…”

(If you are a member of KT reading this, we can save you the need for emails by exclusively revealing that you can find thesilverfoxLFC on EST 1892 where he has been posting for some time along with 85% of the other ex-members of the Koptalk Gold Club and Insider).

We know that most of Oldham’s other remaining members visit KT just “to watch the crash in slow motion” and that they will not be renewing when their memberships expire.

Since Oldham has probably already spent their membership fees, the financial crunch can only get tighter as time passes.

So far, I’ve not seen any from Liverpool. I’ve not done a rigorous study, but a significant percentage of KT’s few active posters are from Ireland with a smattering from Wales. Most of the rest are from outside the UK.

It’s ironic that Oldham is kept afloat by the non-English considering how much of a Little Englander he is.

In fact one could say about his site what he said about London when he returned from it in disgust a few months : “Are there no English people left…?

Edit: I realise that some of those posting from outside England may be English.

The End is Nigh for Koptalk Kapers

by Rupert Insider

“No one knows about that day or hour….”Matthew 24:36-44

I thought the above was an appropriate passage to welcome back the Right Reverend Duncan Oldham from his sojourn. It is from his favourite Apostle, Matthew.

You remember the Reverend’s sermons in the summer?

He took to using the signature: Matthew 5:38 when he signed off on them. Of course it was directed at the blog.

“You have heard that it was said: an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth”- Matthew 5:38

This was after he first threatened to rip Insider’s face-off, and after he told us he had had a word with his “underworld friends” about us but before he told us about his discussion with an “insane Liverpool hitter” who offered to bump us off for him for 500.

We pointed out at the time that Matthew, the Apostle, was a tax collector. You don’t mess with tax collectors – as Oldham is no doubt discovering.

The end of Koptalk is definitely nigh, nigher than usual, in fact very nigh. On the nigh scale from 1 to 100 it is nighty.

We are witnessing the end-times.

detectiveinglasses3.gif1. His latest attempt to get back unto News Now were squashed when we complained about and demonstrated his misleading headlines. That article was pulled.

detectiveinglasses3.gif2. We are aware of other agencies which have his site in their sights.

detectiveinglasses3.gif3. We know he is being actively investigated by regulatory authorities.

detectiveyellow.gif4. How about you? Have you shopped Oldham yet? I’ve made quite a few changes and additions to the 5. Shop Oldham page which you can find on the tool bar above. Scroll down to PART TWO -Duncan Oldham and start reading from there.

It would take you only a few minutes to alert some of the authorities listed there.

Watch out Koptalk…

BBC NEWS | Technology | Goal footage warning for website
YouTube users now watch more than 100m clips per day

Goal footage warning for website!

An independent website has been told to stop putting footage of FA Premiership goals on the video website YouTube.

NetResult – a firm monitoring the internet on behalf of the Premier League – emailed a warning to the website,

It told the website it was “infringing” Premier League copyright.

Links from 101greatgoals to YouTube were thought to have been disabled by YouTube itself but other links to Premiership goals stayed in place.

Shop Oldham

detectiveinglasses2.gifby Rupert Insider

(Draft – work in progress – corrections, additions and links very welcome)   NOTE: THIS ARTICLE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY UPDATED.  THE UPDATED VERSION CAN BE FOUND ON THE TOOL
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We have shown that Duncan Oldham’s business success was based on outright begging, and on skimming charities he set up for his relatives, and on various forms of cheating that gave him an unfair advantage over what he calls the “rival sites” – in which he includes LFC’s “Official Site”.

Many believe that Oldham is so addicted to easy money from supporters of LFC he must try to come-back from the serious set-backs he has suffered since this blog began in the early summer of 2006. And because cheating has been characteristic of his entire history on the net, even from 1990’s when he used the name of Del Johnson to sell illegal satellite cards and then not deliver them, it is reasonable to suppose that cheating will continue to be his mainstay. Dunk: The Early Years

We can go on tut-tutting, or we can do something about it. When your grandkids ask you what you did during the Kop v Oldham War – make sure you can say without hesitation “I did my bit”.

Some may be a bit squeamish – about shopping a benefits cheat, for example. We all know needy people, dependent on some form of financial assistance from the state, struggling in life with genuine burdens and disadvantages. And perhaps they “cheat” sometimes when they don’t declare all the minor fluctuations in their circumstances which might result in their losing some or all of the assistance temporarily or permanently. They live so close to the line that perhaps a little fudging is understandable and most of us look the other way.

Don’t confuse that profile with Duncan Oldham’s.

He flaunts his alleged wealth. Whether it’s in the form of his ₤37,000 (?) Mercedes and his Ford and the other vehicles he is talking of buying, and property he says he has bought for cash or is in the process of buying in Liverpool and Malta, and numerous wide-screen plasma TV’s, computers, digital cameras and other accessories, foreign holidays, days betting at the races, overnight stays at 4 star hotels, days traipsing from Newcastle to fool around in the street outside the Melwood training ground, when the rest of us are working or looking for work, as well as cash hand-outs to the family members who helped him carry out his con.

And he taunts his “rivals” that his financial success is all the evidence he needs that his site is No.1 for LFC (when it is actually no higher than No. 10) and he uses his claims to wealth to convince the gullible to pay ₤30 for new memberships on the grounds that if he is doing so well financially he must be supported by many.

What we propose is bringing back Oldham to the same ground-rules that govern other businesses in the UK.

Any attempt to bring him to account must be supported by individuals taking it on themselves to inform the appropriate authorities.

Sometimes, an investigator may start a case but then drops it from overwork, or because it is too difficult finding the information. Sometimes, investigators wait for multiple complaints. So don’t think that because others from the blog are doing it you don’t need to. It is our experience that agencies and businesses sometimes do not respond to the first well-argued cases – but they are affected by them. And then, one day, another complaint comes in, perhaps not so well-argued, but it’s that complaint that triggers them into action. Complaints have a cumulative effect.

In some case the authorities take anonymous tip-offs. So do use that facility if you are nervous.

But it is usually best to give one’s name and contact details. You can always insist that your name and address be kept confidential.

And remember you do not have to produce proof. After all, a swindler is hardly likely to leave proof lying around. In fact, he’s likely to make it as difficult as possible for investigators by failing to keep the records which are a legal requirement, and by using multiple personal names, addresses, and different web sites and by making contradictory statements and outright lies in order to confuse and cover his tracks.

All you are required to do is summarize your suspicion indicating your grounds. You should also make it as easy as possible for investigators to identify and locate him and to find his various claims on the net. Remember they do have superior legal tracking powers and any snippet of information you give them can help.

Many of Oldham’s statements can be found somewhere on this blog. You could always provide the link to the specific page or to this summary.

Your information can be about Oldham’s past practices. We know he has lost a lot of income and members since the blog started. But he has been taking in money for several years. And if he were to be found to have been evading tax and VAT and taking benefits while working in the past he will have to pay in arrears, with penalties.

These are the main suspicions about Duncan Oldham finances and business practices.


  1. That he may have skimmed donations sent for childrens’ charities.
  2. That he may have drawn unemployment benefits while working.
  3. That he may have conspired with other family members to allow them to claim benefits while working for him.
  4. That as an employer and as a self-employed person he failed to pay National Insurance contributions.
  5. That he habitually infringed the Trades Description Act and the Data Protection Act and that he habitually made false representations about the goods and services he sold and the information he disseminated.
  6. That he habitually stole copyrighted articles, photographs, videos and live links to broadcasts for profit and sold them as his own.
  7. That he may have evaded reporting income for himself or his businesses to HM Revenue and Customs.
  8. That he may have evaded the collecting and forwarding of VAT.

These are some of the reasonable grounds for suspicion

1. He has conducted business on the web under different names – Del Johnson and Duncan Oldham being just two of them.

2. He claims that Duncan Oldham is not his real name – it is.

3. He claims he does not live in Wallsend, near Newcastle – he does.

4. He claims he lives in Scarborough, Yorkshire – he doesn’t.

5. He claims that his family employees – his mother and his step-brother and wife (in the past) – do not receive a wage – yet they spend most of their time working for him and have no other visible means of support. This also suggests he does not make National Insurance contributions.

6. He claims he does not receive a wage but claims to live a lifestyle that relies on a substantial income to support it. This also has implications for National Insurance contributions.

7. He claims to have a debilitating illness (one which might be expected to qualify him for disability benefits) yet he also claims to work long hours every day seven days a week.



8. He has claimed that Koptalk has 6,000 members most of who paid subscriptions of between ₤26-30 per year. He offered discounts of 33% (₤10) for payments made in bank notes or other negotiable instruments, with no receipt required.

9. In July 2006 he claimed that recent revenues from betting referrals had increased 10 times in relation to the World Cup.

10. He claimed significant revenues from referrals to Adult Date Finder.

11. He claimed revenues from advertisements based on traffic to his sites, and has claimed that he received hundreds of thousands of hits daily.

12. He claimed significant revenues from the sale of LFC regalia, books, CDs and DVD’s.

13. He claimed revenues from advanced ₤5 “deposits” on his book “Anfield Exposed” payments over a two-year period. He also claimed that indications from these deposits are that the first run of the book will be 20,000 copies.

14. He did not collect VAT on any of these sales of goods and services. He uses many different sites as sales outlets in an attempt to disguse the total of revenues and thereby evade registration for VAT.

15. His public comments on his financial results are self-contradictory. He sometimes pleads poverty for tactical purposes. In September 2006 he closed his free forums on the grounds he could not afford to maintain them and had difficulty finding cash to pay a season ticket at LFC. This was a couple of weeks after claiming to have had record new signings of memberships and other revenues. And since then, he has talked a lot about buying properties and cars and foreign holidays.

16. In his MySpace profile he claims an income of ₤250,000 a year. In other public statements he claims an income in excess of ₤140,000

17. In the spring and summer of 2006 he claimed that profits were so substantial that he could buy vehicles (a Mercedes Clk200 K Sport Auto, a Ford Ka Design and, prospectively, a van kitted out for broadcasting as well as an ex-army Landrover) properties (including a ₤300,000 a house and an hotel in Liverpool and a house in Malta) and plasma TV’s and other expensive audio-visual equipment.

18. To former confidants such as Dj_Sydney he claims his site is worth ₤5 million based on its revenues and membership.

19. He claims to have bought his home with cash and to have removed the mortgage on his mother’s home and to have bought his Koptalk HQ business office with cash. He also claims to be thinking of buying a house for his mother in Malta soon. (However, public records show that one of the houses he claims is his is in his wife’s name and has a mortgage).



20. He has never denied suspicions that he does not report his income or pay personal income tax

21. He has chosen to “opt out” of revealing the ownership of his many sites with the Registrar. (But contributors to this blog have successfully requested the Registrar to make them public).

22. He has many web sites which are versions of those owned by “rivals” and in some cases he directs their traffic to his revenue-earning sites. They include the address of a charity – the Michael Shields campaign.

23. He always uses PO Boxes rather than street addresses.

24. None of his businesses are incorporated. There are no public records. He is unknown to Companies House.


25. He demands detailed personal information from users but is not registered under the Data Protection Act


26. He makes use of personal information submitted in confidence to intimidate critical members by contacting their employers.

27. Members who cancel their membership in his sites or are banned by him for asking questions immediately begin receiving large quantities of junk mail, suggesting he has sold their personal information to marketing companies.


28. None of his charities are registered with the Charities Commissioner and he closed the web site for his main charity after a report was made to the police and questions were asked about it.

29. He fails to provide receipts or any accounting of donations to charities.


30. He draws annual membership fees automatically from the PayPal accounts of members who do not wish to renew and does not repay all of them on request.

31. He cancels life-time, honorary and full memberships on a whim. He constantly creates new classes and levels of memberships in order to force existing members to upgrade for a fee.

32. He claims to consort with “underworld friends” and to consult “hitters” about getting rid of his “rivals.


33. He habitually attempts to deceive users of his sites by posting under different pseudonyms, including the names used by his family, and by giving misleading information about his whereabouts.


34. He habitually makes false claims about his relationship with LFC and its players and former players, its directors, executives and potential investors.


35. He makes false claims about the scope and quality of the services he offers to members and the authenticity of the LFC regalia he sells. He illegally sells tickets to LFC matches above their face value.


36. He habitually steals the intellectual property and copyright of others to re-sell to those who buy memberships in his site.

37. He is preparing trip to Malta, making enquiries about internet access from there and declaring his intention to buy a property there, ostensibly for his mother, and in general acting in a manner consistent with someone preparing a bolt-hole should it be necessary to evade investigation.

38. In more than seven years he has never provided the name or address of a bank account for charitable donations or payments to his business or himself. This suggests that he is deliberately avoiding normal business practices in order to evade examination of cash flow and may be mixing charitable, business and personal receipts and expenditures. He prefers to deal in cash.

39. He periodically announces that he lost records. He claims he has no hard copy of records. This suggests that he is deliberately evading accounting to avoid contractual obligations to consumers and that he is failing the legal obligation to maintain records for the purpose of tax assessments and audits.

40.He offers a share in lottery tickets bought for members and other bets and raffles and fails to provide the numbers or other details in advance of the event. He uses raffles and competitions to sell memberships and more often than not never holds the raffle or awards the prize and on the rare occasions he says he has, it was a member of his family who conducted the draw.





Duncan Oldhamaka Del Johnson, Mr.Teflon and Mr. Manchester United


DOB: 1974 – July to September (to be supplied)

Married: Maria Hartley – 24th July 1999


History: He first appeared on the internet in usenet groups circa 1996/7. In these groups he displayed an interest in police radios, Islam and its paraphenalia, terrorism, acquiring satellite signals illegally, football and advertising for fit young lads as a sexual partner for threesomes with himself and his wife. He then developed an email list of football supporters – especially LFC.

Under his psuedonym “Del Johnson” he was investigated by Mark Lacey, Trading Standards, Standard House, 48, High Street, Northallerton, North Yorkshire DL7 8Y. The issue was his sale of illegal satellite television cards through usenet groups, as well as his failure to deliver them to buyers and his skipping from his creditors.

Oldham used his address list of supporters to introduce himself to Koptalk as a part-time helper circa 2000 assisting Colin Seaman, the founder and designer of Koptalk. They worked together for a few months before Colin left because Oldham was more interested in money than football. Oldham assumed control and ownership and begged readers for free equipment and money. There were about three LFC sites at the time and Koptalk was the largest. (It is now one of the smallest). Its original reason for existence was to provide a free site (but it has since abandoned the free forums and now charges ₤30 p.a. for membership). In those days when distribution of PC’s was not so wide, most users would log in from their place of work and the first generation tended to be professionals, more literate than Oldham, and very influential in the growth and control of the site. By 2002/2003 more than 90% of that first generation had abandoned Koptalk and started other sites or joined the other existing sites in protest against Oldham practice of progressively turning Koptalk into a vehicle for his own personality cult and dodgy money-making schemes.

Prior to Koptalk, Oldham claims to have operated a security and contract cleaning business “UK911″ (details of their web addresses to be supplied). It appears this was himself and his mother cleaning offices and acting as security guard.

Prior to that he claims he was in the army.

Prior to that he attended Scalby Technology College in Scarborough, North Yorkshire until 1991. (His future wife also attended that college and left in 1990).

Address: 5 Swan Avenue, off Bede Crescent, Wallsend, Tyne and Wear, NE 28 7JH

Oldham bought it for £29,950 on 15th March 2002. Map Ref:


However, the current Land Registry records show that it now belongs to Maria Clare Oldham, who it seems to have acquired it on July 22nd 2003. It was worth “under £60,000” at the time. There is also a reference to Halifax PLC (a bank or mortgage company). The apparent transfer of title to his wife and the assumption of a mortgage may suggest that Oldham was converting some of his equity to cash (the proceeds of the loan/mortgage) while at the same time appearing to hide the rest of the equity in the event of claims from creditors by putting it in the name of his wife. It may have been for less suspicious reasons, perhaps because he did not qualify for a loan or a mortage (his wife was trained as a teacher), and he wanted her to carry the debt, or it may have been a marriage settlement. But herowning the property is in conflict with his published claims to own the property free of debt.

Oldham also publicly claimed that he bought this property from the proceeds of a ₤50,000 judgement with costs that he won in the High Court against “rivals”. As far as we know this was about his conflict with a comapny to whom he sold Koptalk (or some rights to it) and then claimed it back. The legal dispute was about what the original agreement had meant.

Telephone: +44.1912091617 or 44.798004536 or 0905 028 0723

Autos: D1UNK is a Mercedes Clk200 Sports Auto M99ACA is a Ford Ka

Business: and numerous related internet businesses (see below)

Banking: PayPal (number to be supplied) He has never made reference to a bank, either for donations to his charities or for business purposes.

Position: Sole Owner, Executive Editor

Hours: Claims 7 days a week – 10 hours or more daily.


Address: Extension to 5 Swan Avenue, Wallsend, Tyne and Wear, NE 28


Photo: Ariel Photo of Residence and Kop Talk HQ in Wallsend.,-1.516961&spn=0.003545,0.011823&t=h&om=1




PO Boxes:

Wallsend PO Box 556 Wallsend NE 28 7WZ


PO Box 145, 1 Princess Terrace, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, YO11 1YD :

PO Box 145, YO12 7XU.

London: One blog contributor remembers that Oldham was using a box number in the West End of London 3 or 4 years ago, possibly in connection with competitions. (Number to be supplied?) Research also produced the following London address, but its link to Oldham is not confirmed. The SP, PO Box 7292, 1 Canada Square, Canary Wharf, London E14 5DF


NOTE: Oldham falsely claims to live in Scarborough at Cross Street, North Yorkshire, YO11 (possibly YO11 1BB but not certain yet).

But he actually lives in Wallsend “across the street from me Ma”, where he works full-time on his businesses in the Koptalk HQ which is a free standing shed – like a Portakabin – behind the house in the back garden. (It is clearly visible in the aerial photo above).


He sometimes implies that he lives in the same house as his mother, but she may, indeed, live “across the street” as he said, with her husband. Her husband works occasionally for Oldham’s businesses.



Psuedonyms: He uses various pseudonyms when posting on his sites: Dunk, Kop Talk Daddy,, Anfield Mole, Wallet as well as co-opting the pseudonyms of his step-brother ST3 and pretending to be him (more pseudonyms to be supplied)


Related Duncan Oldham Internet Domains: (To be completed)

Tottenham Hotspurs Site

Newcastle United Site



He also “squats” on many sites that are similar in name to “rival” sites as well miscellaneous other sites like “”

In some cases he directs the traffic intended for sites owned by others to his own sites and in other cases he just deprives the other sites from acquiring the domain names relating to their site. Insider has made a list of 19 of these”stolen” rival sites along with another 6 non-rival sites and it can be found here with a full analysis of what name and address Oldham used when he registered the sites:

To provide a flavour from the article here are the “rival” LFC football sites he has stolen by squatting on them: and <– Rather ironic! <– After someone kindly purchased the .com version for us! <– Yes, he even bought this domain and pointed it to a part of his website containing all of his pop-up ads and the rest of it. (also and <– Bought within days of the launch of




Steve McNeish aka Steve Oldham

DOB: 1989 – June to July (day and month to be supplied)

Address: Claims to sleep in the HQ office.

Position: Editor, delivery boy, general dogsbody.

Telephone: 07962 475020

Hours: Claims 16 hours a day 7 days a week and night duties

Relationship: Step-brother of Duncan Oldham



Jeanette McNeish

DOB: (To be supplied)

Address: 5 Swan Avenue, off Bede Crescent, Wallsend, Tyne and Wear NE 28 (but Oldham claims he lives “across the street” from his mother).

Position: Admin Koptalk membership: PR: Treasurer of Lauren Charity.

Hours: Substantial – possibly 25-40 hours a week at times:

Relationship: Mother of Duncan Oldham and Steve McNeish



Maria Hartley (Also presented on the net by Oldham as “Maria Hargreaves”)

DOB: 1974

Address: Scarborough, North Yorkshire (Reserved by us to protect her privacy.)

Position: Admin. – Koptalk membership and general:

Hours: Currently not at Koptalk – but worked 25-40 hours a week for years.

Relationship: Wife of Duncan Oldham – possibly separated.




DOB: Allegedly 1988 but probably nearer 1978

Address: Wallsend

Position: Administrator Koptalk, moderator of forums, PR.

Hours: Evenings and nights – perhaps 30-35 hours

Relationship: Not known – possibly cousin.



TAX Evasion is Illegal

This is an excerpt from Wikipaedia:


“Tax avoidance is the legal utilization of the tax regime to one’s own advantage, in order to reduce the amount of tax that is payable by means that are within the law. Examples of tax avoidance involve using taxed deductions changing one’s tax status through incorporation or establishing an offshore company, trust or foundation in a tax haven.

By contrast tax evasion is the general term for efforts by individuals, firms, trusts and other entities to evade taxes illegal means. Tax evasion usually entails taxpayers deliberately misrepresenting or concealing the true state of their affairs to the tax authorities to reduce their tax liability, and includes, in particular, dishonest tax reporting (such as declaring less income, profits or gains than actually earned; or overstating deductions).

Tax evasion is a crime in almost all countries and subjects the guilty party to fines and imprisonment.


VAT evasion is illegal

This is taken from Winters, Chartered Accountants:

“You are required to register for VAT if the value of your taxable supplies exceeds a set annual figure (currently £61,000).

A taxable person is anyone who makes or intends to make taxable supplies and is required to be registered. For the purpose of VAT registration a person includes:

  • individuals
  • partnerships
  • companies, clubs and associations
  • charities.

If any individual carries on two or more businesses all the supplies made in those businesses will be added together in determining whether or not the individual is required to register for VAT


Reporting Contacts

This information based on research done by a blog contributor – fat_boy_fat:

Tax and National Insurance dodgers0800 788887 8am – 8pm Mon-Sun
A hotline for people who have information relating to Businesses or Individuals that are not paying tax and/or National Insurance. You don’t have to leave any personal information about yourself. Just inform them that you suspect Duncan Oldham and possibly members of his family/business are tax dodging or not paying National Insurance. Prepare a short list of reasons for your suspicion. It will take 5-10 minutes of your time.

I should think that in addition to registering information about Oldham and his family as individuals it would also be helpful to mention as a business with relation to VAT and possibly corporate tax (although none of the business are incorporated).

Statements from Oldham that neither he nor his family employees earn a wage also suggest that he is not making National Insurance payments as an employer and he and his employees are not making them as self-employed.

Note: “Scouse” could not get a response from the above number. If someone can confirm it is not good I will remove it, but as far as I can tell it is good. After searching, scouse found that:

“There is also a specialist Tax Evasion Hotline dealing with income tax, corporation tax, capital gains tax, inheritance tax, VAT and National Insurance:

You can complain online at

Benefit cheatsJob Seekers Allowance, Disability Allowance , Income Support

Again you do not have to give personal details. Simply fill out the form. Remember to note any suspicions you have about Oldham’s family members, too:

Property Tax Assessment: Scarborough

If he is claiming to live in Scarborough when he actually lives in Wallsend, he must have a reason. It is reasonable to suspect that it may have to do with him qualifying for benefits which require him to be living in Scarborough. And such locality-tied benefits could be about housing benefits or property-tax waivers. That is a council matter.

You can inform Scarborough Council of his contradictory statements about his place of residence and your suspicions. Look above under Duncan Oldham to see the Cross Street address he claims as home in Scarborough, and also mention the two Scarborough addresses for the PO Box 145. But remember to mention his Wallsend address, as well.

Property Tax Assessment: Wallsend – Tyne and Wear – North Tyneside

If he is being deceptive about his place of residence as between Wallsend and Scarborough it raises suspicions about the possibility that the Wallsend housing authorities may also be affected.

This excerpt taken from the North Tyneside web site:

“In order to allow the public to report their suspicions of benefit fraud in a safe and confidential manner, the council operates a 24 hour Confidential Fraud Hotline. Tel n.: 0191 2006578 You can use this telephone line to report any suspicions of fraud which you may have. The line is staffed during the hours of 8.30 a.m. and 4.30 p.m. Monday to Friday. At all other times, a Confidential Answering Service is available.”

Planning Enforcement

His “Koptalk Office” in Wallsend would have needed planning permission since it is a very large extension to his house. Given that it is an obvious eyesore in the residential neighbourhood (even seen from satellite photos) and given Oldham’s general disregard for regulations, it might be worth asking the authorities if they are fully aware of the building and its use.

You could inform the Wallsend (Tyne and Wear) local authority that he runs several businesses from the building 24 hours a day 7 days a week. He employees several people there. It houses many computers and televisions and telephones. He uses the building exclusively for business (but one of his employees sleeps there during the night). The businesses are not incorporated or registered in any way. The businesses use at least two vehicles (possibly three) and he claims to be buying a large van fitted-out for broadcasting.

From those premises he sets up unregistered charities for relatives and collects donations, sells an internet broadcasting service, a podcast service and SMS service, football regalia sales and delivery service, adult date-finding services, betting services, pornographic services (his photographic model and his pornographic forums) news services, shares in lottery tickets and raffles and paid memberships (₤30 per annum) in an unregistered football-related club called “” (he claims 6,000 members) and from where he publishes web pages devoted largely to his personal views about sex, race, immigration and football.

These factors have health and safety, traffic and parking implications not only for the participants but also for the neighbours.

This is an excerpt from the North Tyneside Council web page:

Planning Enforcement

Contact Planning Enforcement for matters regarding;

Potential breaches of planning control, unlawful development, high hedges, development not in accordance with approved plans.

Tel: 0191 219 2167
Fax: 0191 219 2185

Remember to include the street address.

Trading Standards

The North Tyneside Trading Standards inspectors do not deal with issues of VAT or Tax. They deal with complaints about trading practices.

This would include any false or misleading promotions like lottery tickets and competitions not honoured or not conducted in a fair and transparent manner. It could include any false claims he uses to sell memberships such as his claim to insider knowledge of LFC and contact with its investors, directors, executives and employees (including players). It might also include his stealing of copyright material and re-selling the product to his membership as though it were his own. It would include the issue of Oldham cancelling categories of memberships such as Silver, Insider, Lifetime, Honorary and creating new categories as a means of forcing existing members to pay more money to remain in Koptalk with friends they made there. It would include his cancelling individual memberships arbitrarilly, not observing his own published regulations or his contract with members or not dealing in a fair manner. His failing to pay refunds in whole or part of any memberships he has cancelled or for teh book he had not published. His collecting through PayPal automatic renewal mechanism new annual memberships without giving notice to members that he intended to do this even in cases where the members had ceased being active or had indicated that they did not wish to continue beyond their current annual membership. His refusal to give refunds of these automatic renewals. His failure to issue receipts for charitable donations or for payments for goods and services. His failure to keep proper accounts for his members or the authorities. His losing or misusing personal details, demanding too many personal details and not observing the Data Protection Act. His selling or revealing personal information to marketing companies or in using it to deduce the telephone numbers of the employers of his members and calling members at their place of work to threaten them. His threatening the contributors to this blog and his critics with “hitters” and “underworld friends”. His selling of fake LFC and other fake and pirated football regalia. His taking deposits on his book “Anfield Exposed” for more then two years and his admission that he has not even begun to write it.

In short, anything that smacks of dodgy trading.

It is really important that individuals who have been personally affected by his trading practices report the specific incidents. Others who have not been personally affected should try to give examples which support their suspicions. This can be statements made by Oldham or by other people on the net – including this blog.

Please contact:

Alan Burnett
Senior Trading Standards Officer
Environment, Regeneration & Housing
The Killingworth Site
PO Box 113
NE12 6WJ

Tel:0191-2192634 Fax:0191

e-mail :


(This article is a sticky which can be found in the tool bar in the Home Page under “4. Shop Oldham Hopefully, it will be a collaborative effort between all the blog’s contributors. Readers are asked to check all the information and offer corrections, additions and links. This can be done as a comment at the end of the article or sent in confidence by email to rupertinsider @ Check back regularly to see the updates).


Steve McNeish aka Steve Oldham in the Koptalk Office, Wallsend (his mother Jeannete in background and Kate in foreground)




Jeannette McNeish (Duncan Oldham’s mother)



Possibly Maria Hartley, Duncan Oldham’s wife, and possibly Steve’s father, and Steve McNeish in Koptalk Office



I did it MY way – Dunk Bans the Official Site.

by Rupert Insider


The fat lady brings the opera to a close – “My Way”

You probably know that the Official Site has been conducting a poll of the “100 Players who Shook the Kop”


They invited the votes of all their members as well as journalists, pundits, former players and, today, Rafa Benitez and Rick Parry. The results will be published tomorrow – Friday 6th October, 2006.

Yesterday, they published the views of the representatives of unofficial supporter sites.

You can read them here:

Koptalk was noticeable by its absence from the list.

Readers of this blog would take that for granted, not only because Koptalk is more like No. 10 LFC site – than No.1.

We have reported that senior LFC officials have emphatically stated in writing and in discussions with us that Oldham has never had any contact with any officials at the club and never will.

And when we informed them of Oldham’s claim, a couple of months ago, that the Official Site had offered him a job – they almost choked. LFC would not even consider hiring a person like him, they said!

And we also reported here how the Official Site has long considered him a pariah who steals their content.

So despite his claims to be the owner of the No. 1 LFC Site and a confidant of directors, senior executives, players and spokesman for millions of supporters (well it is millions if you include his other sites – Newcastle and Spurs), it was no surprise to us that the club ignored him, again.

But it was a surprise to some of his members. Or was it? Koptalk is like a hall of mirrors these days. It’s virtually impossible to tell which posts are piss-takes cruelly teasing the thick Executive Editor and which are the forlorn cries of the genuinely gullible.

I’m not going to post the entire exchange, just today’s. But you can see from it that the question was posed yesterday . The question, in different formats, was:

Why did the official Site not consult Oldham along with the representatives of other unofficial sites given that Kotpalk claims to be the No. 1 unofficial site and Oldham, personally claims to have been offered a position with the Official Site”

Honorary Member

Reged: 10/06/04
Posts: 11134
West London.

Re: Top 5 WSTK [Re: kingkenny07]
#1664403 –
05/10/06 11:39 AM Reply Quote

cool down kenny cool down.

Post Extras:

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Posts: 665

Re: Top 5 WSTK [Re: kingkenny07]
#1664404 –
05/10/06 11:39 AM Reply Quote

This is surely a multi-faceted as opposed to simple question though, KK?

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Reged: 02/08/04
Posts: 191
Loc: Northants

Re: Top 5 WSTK [Re: WarrenPeace]
#1664409 – 05/10/06 11:42 AM Reply Quote

oh didnt see it yesterday… apologies

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Posts: 1143
Loc: Dublin

Re: Top 5 WSTK [Re: WarrenPeace]
#1664412 – 05/10/06 11:44 AM Edit Reply Quote

I’d agree

But the big question has to be “WHY” or if KT was contacted at all for it’s opinion.

If not then why,given the contacts that are frineds of the site in the club.

Then seen as the editor/owner of KT was offered a job on the Offal site then surely KT is known to be the No1 un-official fan site?


I don’t think it’s in the extreme to ask for some answers.

KopTalk Daddy

Reged: 20/08/04
Posts: 11133

Re: Top 5 WSTK [Re: kingkenny07]
#1664417 –
05/10/06 11:49 AM Reply Quote

I answered yesterday and what I said was as follows.

When you start agreeing to do things with the official site, before you know it you find yourself agreeing to do things a certain way. I prefer to retain independence thanks.

I have a good relationship with the official site main man. We’ve often exchanged emails, the last was about live streaming when Al was heavily involved in it. They were keen to find out who was behind this kind of stuff in the UK. Grass Al up and provide the odd input every now and then or retain independence?

The official site used my sole review of their e-season ticket on their promo pages for ages. That’s right, big bad Dunk from was the only review on their e-season ticket sign-up/promo pages for months, maybe more. They didn’t ask me for this, they must have spotted it and took it.

I prefer to do things MY way. Unofficial, not pretending to be unofficial.

I thankyou.


KopTalk Daddy

Reged: 20/08/04
Posts: 11138

Re: Top 5 WSTK [Re: ]
#1664421 – 05/10/06 11:52 AM Reply Quote


If not then why,given the contacts that are frineds of the site in the club.


Yeh they all work on the interweb


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KopTalk Daddy

Reged: 20/08/04
Posts: 11138

Re: Top 5 WSTK [Re: Dunk]
#1664423 – 05/10/06 11:59 AM Reply Quote

Badge earnt.

I’m not sure why we have to endure these wind-up merchants. Why do they hang out here when they don’t want to be here? It’s beyond me.

Let’s leave the football to the adults.


I liked his Arthur Askey “I thank you” imitation.

As for the rest of his reply – he makes reference to Al and the live-feeds he supplied to Koptalk – before Al left Koptalk a couple of months ago. Al requested that we not prolonged that discussion, so we didn’t. But Oldham is still referring to it, still using the name of his former member. Here he is suggesting that he defended Al from the Official Site. Actually the Official Site was after Oldham, not Al, because it was Oldham who was selling memberships on the basis of whatever advice Al was giving freely to his friends on Koptalk. But how strange that Oldham should use this contact from the Official Site as an example of his good relations with it. Is he so divorced from reality?

He has referred to LFC’s own site many times as “the other side”. That’s what we have always said about him on the blog – that he is anti-LFC. But today it suits him to claim he has good relations with its “main man”.

That’s the guy he normally refers to as one of the “suits” who has made life difficult for him and who he will expose in his infamous non-book “Anfield Exposed”.

And its noticeable that the only communication he refers to with him is one about Koptalk’s illegal use of image rights to sell its memberships. (In the old days he would have claimed that he and the “main man” sent each other love letters but he knows now that every claim he makes will be checked by contributors to this blog).

The Official Site is a big operation and I know that some junior members of the marketing, as distinct from the editorial department, are not familiar with Koptalk . That’s the only explanation I can offer if they did indeed pick up his review of their E-Season Ticket Promo. He admits they did not communicate with him about.

“I prefer to do things MY way. Unofficial, not pretending to be unofficial.”

In Dunkenspeak, he is trying to insult the other unofficial sites for contributing to the Official Site’s promotion of its poll a – privilege he would have died for. Now, in a classic case of sour grapes, he suggests that they have been co-opted by the Official Site and can no longer claim to be truly unofficial, like him.

Doing things “my way” he can claim that he has a meeting with Rick Parry, and tapes of Crouch talking exclusively to The S**, and that Robbie Fowler called him, and of midnight dashes to meet with investment brokers from London and all manner of wonderful things. He could not get away with any of those lies and scams if he were “official”.

It must be comforting for him to know that he never will be.


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