by Rupert Insider
(Draft – work in progress – corrections, additions and links very welcome) NOTE: THIS ARTICLE HAS BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY UPDATED. THE UPDATED VERSION CAN BE FOUND ON THE TOOL
BAR OF THE HOME PAGE: “5. SHOP OLDHAM”
We have shown that Duncan Oldham’s business success was based on outright begging, and on skimming charities he set up for his relatives, and on various forms of cheating that gave him an unfair advantage over what he calls the “rival sites” – in which he includes LFC’s “Official Site”.
Many believe that Oldham is so addicted to easy money from supporters of LFC he must try to come-back from the serious set-backs he has suffered since this blog began in the early summer of 2006. And because cheating has been characteristic of his entire history on the net, even from 1990’s when he used the name of Del Johnson to sell illegal satellite cards and then not deliver them, it is reasonable to suppose that cheating will continue to be his mainstay. Dunk: The Early Years
We can go on tut-tutting, or we can do something about it. When your grandkids ask you what you did during the Kop v Oldham War – make sure you can say without hesitation “I did my bit”.
Some may be a bit squeamish – about shopping a benefits cheat, for example. We all know needy people, dependent on some form of financial assistance from the state, struggling in life with genuine burdens and disadvantages. And perhaps they “cheat” sometimes when they don’t declare all the minor fluctuations in their circumstances which might result in their losing some or all of the assistance temporarily or permanently. They live so close to the line that perhaps a little fudging is understandable and most of us look the other way.
Don’t confuse that profile with Duncan Oldham’s.
He flaunts his alleged wealth. Whether it’s in the form of his ₤37,000 (?) Mercedes and his Ford and the other vehicles he is talking of buying, and property he says he has bought for cash or is in the process of buying in Liverpool and Malta, and numerous wide-screen plasma TV’s, computers, digital cameras and other accessories, foreign holidays, days betting at the races, overnight stays at 4 star hotels, days traipsing from Newcastle to fool around in the street outside the Melwood training ground, when the rest of us are working or looking for work, as well as cash hand-outs to the family members who helped him carry out his con.
And he taunts his “rivals” that his financial success is all the evidence he needs that his site is No.1 for LFC (when it is actually no higher than No. 10) and he uses his claims to wealth to convince the gullible to pay ₤30 for new memberships on the grounds that if he is doing so well financially he must be supported by many.
What we propose is bringing back Oldham to the same ground-rules that govern other businesses in the UK.
Any attempt to bring him to account must be supported by individuals taking it on themselves to inform the appropriate authorities.
Sometimes, an investigator may start a case but then drops it from overwork, or because it is too difficult finding the information. Sometimes, investigators wait for multiple complaints. So don’t think that because others from the blog are doing it you don’t need to. It is our experience that agencies and businesses sometimes do not respond to the first well-argued cases – but they are affected by them. And then, one day, another complaint comes in, perhaps not so well-argued, but it’s that complaint that triggers them into action. Complaints have a cumulative effect.
In some case the authorities take anonymous tip-offs. So do use that facility if you are nervous.
But it is usually best to give one’s name and contact details. You can always insist that your name and address be kept confidential.
And remember you do not have to produce proof. After all, a swindler is hardly likely to leave proof lying around. In fact, he’s likely to make it as difficult as possible for investigators by failing to keep the records which are a legal requirement, and by using multiple personal names, addresses, and different web sites and by making contradictory statements and outright lies in order to confuse and cover his tracks.
All you are required to do is summarize your suspicion indicating your grounds. You should also make it as easy as possible for investigators to identify and locate him and to find his various claims on the net. Remember they do have superior legal tracking powers and any snippet of information you give them can help.
Many of Oldham’s statements can be found somewhere on this blog. You could always provide the link to the specific page or to this summary.
Your information can be about Oldham’s past practices. We know he has lost a lot of income and members since the blog started. But he has been taking in money for several years. And if he were to be found to have been evading tax and VAT and taking benefits while working in the past he will have to pay in arrears, with penalties.
These are the main suspicions about Duncan Oldham finances and business practices.
- That he may have skimmed donations sent for childrens’ charities.
- That he may have drawn unemployment benefits while working.
- That he may have conspired with other family members to allow them to claim benefits while working for him.
- That as an employer and as a self-employed person he failed to pay National Insurance contributions.
- That he habitually infringed the Trades Description Act and the Data Protection Act and that he habitually made false representations about the goods and services he sold and the information he disseminated.
- That he habitually stole copyrighted articles, photographs, videos and live links to broadcasts for profit and sold them as his own.
- That he may have evaded reporting income for himself or his businesses to HM Revenue and Customs.
- That he may have evaded the collecting and forwarding of VAT.
These are some of the reasonable grounds for suspicion
1. He has conducted business on the web under different names – Del Johnson and Duncan Oldham being just two of them.
2. He claims that Duncan Oldham is not his real name – it is.
3. He claims he does not live in Wallsend, near Newcastle – he does.
4. He claims he lives in Scarborough, Yorkshire – he doesn’t.
5. He claims that his family employees – his mother and his step-brother and wife (in the past) – do not receive a wage – yet they spend most of their time working for him and have no other visible means of support. This also suggests he does not make National Insurance contributions.
6. He claims he does not receive a wage but claims to live a lifestyle that relies on a substantial income to support it. This also has implications for National Insurance contributions.
7. He claims to have a debilitating illness (one which might be expected to qualify him for disability benefits) yet he also claims to work long hours every day seven days a week.
8. He has claimed that Koptalk has 6,000 members most of who paid subscriptions of between ₤26-30 per year. He offered discounts of 33% (₤10) for payments made in bank notes or other negotiable instruments, with no receipt required.
9. In July 2006 he claimed that recent revenues from betting referrals had increased 10 times in relation to the World Cup.
10. He claimed significant revenues from referrals to Adult Date Finder.
11. He claimed revenues from advertisements based on traffic to his sites, and has claimed that he received hundreds of thousands of hits daily.
12. He claimed significant revenues from the sale of LFC regalia, books, CDs and DVD’s.
13. He claimed revenues from advanced ₤5 “deposits” on his book “Anfield Exposed” payments over a two-year period. He also claimed that indications from these deposits are that the first run of the book will be 20,000 copies.
14. He did not collect VAT on any of these sales of goods and services. He uses many different sites as sales outlets in an attempt to disguse the total of revenues and thereby evade registration for VAT.
15. His public comments on his financial results are self-contradictory. He sometimes pleads poverty for tactical purposes. In September 2006 he closed his free forums on the grounds he could not afford to maintain them and had difficulty finding cash to pay a season ticket at LFC. This was a couple of weeks after claiming to have had record new signings of memberships and other revenues. And since then, he has talked a lot about buying properties and cars and foreign holidays.
16. In his MySpace profile he claims an income of ₤250,000 a year. In other public statements he claims an income in excess of ₤140,000
17. In the spring and summer of 2006 he claimed that profits were so substantial that he could buy vehicles (a Mercedes Clk200 K Sport Auto, a Ford Ka Design and, prospectively, a van kitted out for broadcasting as well as an ex-army Landrover) properties (including a ₤300,000 a house and an hotel in Liverpool and a house in Malta) and plasma TV’s and other expensive audio-visual equipment.
18. To former confidants such as Dj_Sydney he claims his site is worth ₤5 million based on its revenues and membership.
19. He claims to have bought his home with cash and to have removed the mortgage on his mother’s home and to have bought his Koptalk HQ business office with cash. He also claims to be thinking of buying a house for his mother in Malta soon. (However, public records show that one of the houses he claims is his is in his wife’s name and has a mortgage).
20. He has never denied suspicions that he does not report his income or pay personal income tax
21. He has chosen to “opt out” of revealing the ownership of his many sites with the Registrar. (But contributors to this blog have successfully requested the Registrar to make them public).
22. He has many web sites which are versions of those owned by “rivals” and in some cases he directs their traffic to his revenue-earning sites. They include the address of a charity – the Michael Shields campaign.
23. He always uses PO Boxes rather than street addresses.
24. None of his businesses are incorporated. There are no public records. He is unknown to Companies House.
25. He demands detailed personal information from users but is not registered under the Data Protection Act
26. He makes use of personal information submitted in confidence to intimidate critical members by contacting their employers.
27. Members who cancel their membership in his sites or are banned by him for asking questions immediately begin receiving large quantities of junk mail, suggesting he has sold their personal information to marketing companies.
28. None of his charities are registered with the Charities Commissioner and he closed the web site for his main charity after a report was made to the police and questions were asked about it.
29. He fails to provide receipts or any accounting of donations to charities.
30. He draws annual membership fees automatically from the PayPal accounts of members who do not wish to renew and does not repay all of them on request.
31. He cancels life-time, honorary and full memberships on a whim. He constantly creates new classes and levels of memberships in order to force existing members to upgrade for a fee.
32. He claims to consort with “underworld friends” and to consult “hitters” about getting rid of his “rivals.
33. He habitually attempts to deceive users of his sites by posting under different pseudonyms, including the names used by his family, and by giving misleading information about his whereabouts.
34. He habitually makes false claims about his relationship with LFC and its players and former players, its directors, executives and potential investors.
35. He makes false claims about the scope and quality of the services he offers to members and the authenticity of the LFC regalia he sells. He illegally sells tickets to LFC matches above their face value.
36. He habitually steals the intellectual property and copyright of others to re-sell to those who buy memberships in his site.
37. He is preparing trip to Malta, making enquiries about internet access from there and declaring his intention to buy a property there, ostensibly for his mother, and in general acting in a manner consistent with someone preparing a bolt-hole should it be necessary to evade investigation.
38. In more than seven years he has never provided the name or address of a bank account for charitable donations or payments to his business or himself. This suggests that he is deliberately avoiding normal business practices in order to evade examination of cash flow and may be mixing charitable, business and personal receipts and expenditures. He prefers to deal in cash.
39. He periodically announces that he lost records. He claims he has no hard copy of records. This suggests that he is deliberately evading accounting to avoid contractual obligations to consumers and that he is failing the legal obligation to maintain records for the purpose of tax assessments and audits.
40.He offers a share in lottery tickets bought for members and other bets and raffles and fails to provide the numbers or other details in advance of the event. He uses raffles and competitions to sell memberships and more often than not never holds the raffle or awards the prize and on the rare occasions he says he has, it was a member of his family who conducted the draw.
Duncan Oldham – aka Del Johnson, Mr.Teflon and Mr. Manchester United
DOB: 1974 – July to September (to be supplied)
Married: Maria Hartley – 24th July 1999
History: He first appeared on the internet in usenet groups circa 1996/7. In these groups he displayed an interest in police radios, Islam and its paraphenalia, terrorism, acquiring satellite signals illegally, football and advertising for fit young lads as a sexual partner for threesomes with himself and his wife. He then developed an email list of football supporters – especially LFC.
Under his psuedonym “Del Johnson” he was investigated by Mark Lacey, Trading Standards, Standard House, 48, High Street, Northallerton, North Yorkshire DL7 8Y. The issue was his sale of illegal satellite television cards through usenet groups, as well as his failure to deliver them to buyers and his skipping from his creditors.
Oldham used his address list of supporters to introduce himself to Koptalk as a part-time helper circa 2000 assisting Colin Seaman, the founder and designer of Koptalk. They worked together for a few months before Colin left because Oldham was more interested in money than football. Oldham assumed control and ownership and begged readers for free equipment and money. There were about three LFC sites at the time and Koptalk was the largest. (It is now one of the smallest). Its original reason for existence was to provide a free site (but it has since abandoned the free forums and now charges ₤30 p.a. for membership). In those days when distribution of PC’s was not so wide, most users would log in from their place of work and the first generation tended to be professionals, more literate than Oldham, and very influential in the growth and control of the site. By 2002/2003 more than 90% of that first generation had abandoned Koptalk and started other sites or joined the other existing sites in protest against Oldham practice of progressively turning Koptalk into a vehicle for his own personality cult and dodgy money-making schemes.
Prior to Koptalk, Oldham claims to have operated a security and contract cleaning business “UK911″ (details of their web addresses to be supplied). It appears this was himself and his mother cleaning offices and acting as security guard.
Prior to that he claims he was in the army.
Prior to that he attended Scalby Technology College in Scarborough, North Yorkshire until 1991. (His future wife also attended that college and left in 1990).
Address: 5 Swan Avenue, off Bede Crescent, Wallsend, Tyne and Wear, NE 28 7JH
Oldham bought it for £29,950 on 15th March 2002. Map Ref:
However, the current Land Registry records show that it now belongs to Maria Clare Oldham, who it seems to have acquired it on July 22nd 2003. It was worth “under £60,000” at the time. There is also a reference to Halifax PLC (a bank or mortgage company). The apparent transfer of title to his wife and the assumption of a mortgage may suggest that Oldham was converting some of his equity to cash (the proceeds of the loan/mortgage) while at the same time appearing to hide the rest of the equity in the event of claims from creditors by putting it in the name of his wife. It may have been for less suspicious reasons, perhaps because he did not qualify for a loan or a mortage (his wife was trained as a teacher), and he wanted her to carry the debt, or it may have been a marriage settlement. But herowning the property is in conflict with his published claims to own the property free of debt.
Oldham also publicly claimed that he bought this property from the proceeds of a ₤50,000 judgement with costs that he won in the High Court against “rivals”. As far as we know this was about his conflict with a comapny to whom he sold Koptalk (or some rights to it) and then claimed it back. The legal dispute was about what the original agreement had meant.
Telephone: +44.1912091617 or 44.798004536 or 0905 028 0723
Autos: D1UNK is a Mercedes Clk200 Sports Auto M99ACA is a Ford Ka
Business: Koptalk.com and numerous related internet businesses (see below)
Banking: PayPal (number to be supplied) He has never made reference to a bank, either for donations to his charities or for business purposes.
Position: Sole Owner, Executive Editor
Hours: Claims 7 days a week – 10 hours or more daily.
Address: Extension to 5 Swan Avenue, Wallsend, Tyne and Wear, NE 28
Photo: Ariel Photo of Residence and Kop Talk HQ in Wallsend.
Koptalk.com PO Box 556 Wallsend NE 28 7WZ
PO Box 145, 1 Princess Terrace, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, YO11 1YD :
PO Box 145, YO12 7XU.
London: One blog contributor remembers that Oldham was using a box number in the West End of London 3 or 4 years ago, possibly in connection with competitions. (Number to be supplied?) Research also produced the following London address, but its link to Oldham is not confirmed. The SP, PO Box 7292, 1 Canada Square, Canary Wharf, London E14 5DF
NOTE: Oldham falsely claims to live in Scarborough at Cross Street, North Yorkshire, YO11 (possibly YO11 1BB but not certain yet).
But he actually lives in Wallsend “across the street from me Ma”, where he works full-time on his businesses in the Koptalk HQ which is a free standing shed – like a Portakabin – behind the house in the back garden. (It is clearly visible in the aerial photo above).
He sometimes implies that he lives in the same house as his mother, but she may, indeed, live “across the street” as he said, with her husband. Her husband works occasionally for Oldham’s businesses.
Psuedonyms: He uses various pseudonyms when posting on his sites: Dunk, Kop Talk Daddy, Koptalk.com, Anfield Mole, Wallet as well as co-opting the pseudonyms of his step-brother ST3 and pretending to be him (more pseudonyms to be supplied)
Related Duncan Oldham Internet Domains: (To be completed)
Tottenham Hotspurs Site
Newcastle United Site
He also “squats” on many sites that are similar in name to “rival” sites as well miscellaneous other sites like “michaelbarrymore.com”
In some cases he directs the traffic intended for sites owned by others to his own sites and in other cases he just deprives the other sites from acquiring the domain names relating to their site. Insider has made a list of 19 of these”stolen” rival sites along with another 6 non-rival sites and it can be found here with a full analysis of what name and address Oldham used when he registered the sites:
To provide a flavour from the article here are the “rival” LFC football sites he has stolen by squatting on them:
http://www.ynwa.net/ and http://www.ynwa.info
http://www.kraptalk.co.uk/ <– Rather ironic!
http://www.koptalk-insider.net/ <– After someone kindly purchased the .com version for us!
http://www.michaelshields.co.uk <– Yes, he even bought this domain and pointed it to a part of his website containing all of his pop-up ads and the rest of it.
http://www.est1892.org (also est1892.net and est1892.org.uk) <– Bought within days of the launch of est1892.co.uk.
Steve McNeish aka Steve Oldham
DOB: 1989 – June to July (day and month to be supplied)
Address: Claims to sleep in the HQ office.
Position: Editor, delivery boy, general dogsbody.
Telephone: 07962 475020
Hours: Claims 16 hours a day 7 days a week and night duties
Relationship: Step-brother of Duncan Oldham
DOB: (To be supplied)
Address: 5 Swan Avenue, off Bede Crescent, Wallsend, Tyne and Wear NE 28 (but Oldham claims he lives “across the street” from his mother).
Position: Admin Koptalk membership: PR: Treasurer of Lauren Charity.
Hours: Substantial – possibly 25-40 hours a week at times:
Relationship: Mother of Duncan Oldham and Steve McNeish
Maria Hartley (Also presented on the net by Oldham as “Maria Hargreaves”)
Address: Scarborough, North Yorkshire (Reserved by us to protect her privacy.)
Position: Admin. – Koptalk membership and general:
Hours: Currently not at Koptalk – but worked 25-40 hours a week for years.
Relationship: Wife of Duncan Oldham – possibly separated.
DOB: Allegedly 1988 but probably nearer 1978
Position: Administrator Koptalk, moderator of forums, PR.
Hours: Evenings and nights – perhaps 30-35 hours
Relationship: Not known – possibly cousin.
TAX Evasion is Illegal
This is an excerpt from Wikipaedia:
“Tax avoidance is the legal utilization of the tax regime to one’s own advantage, in order to reduce the amount of tax that is payable by means that are within the law. Examples of tax avoidance involve using taxed deductions changing one’s tax status through incorporation or establishing an offshore company, trust or foundation in a tax haven.
By contrast tax evasion is the general term for efforts by individuals, firms, trusts and other entities to evade taxes illegal means. Tax evasion usually entails taxpayers deliberately misrepresenting or concealing the true state of their affairs to the tax authorities to reduce their tax liability, and includes, in particular, dishonest tax reporting (such as declaring less income, profits or gains than actually earned; or overstating deductions).
Tax evasion is a crime in almost all countries and subjects the guilty party to fines and imprisonment.”
VAT evasion is illegal
This is taken from Winters, Chartered Accountants:
“You are required to register for VAT if the value of your taxable supplies exceeds a set annual figure (currently £61,000).
A taxable person is anyone who makes or intends to make taxable supplies and is required to be registered. For the purpose of VAT registration a person includes:
- companies, clubs and associations
If any individual carries on two or more businesses all the supplies made in those businesses will be added together in determining whether or not the individual is required to register for VAT”
This information based on research done by a blog contributor – fat_boy_fat:
Tax and National Insurance dodgers –0800 788887 8am – 8pm Mon-Sun
A hotline for people who have information relating to Businesses or Individuals that are not paying tax and/or National Insurance. You don’t have to leave any personal information about yourself. Just inform them that you suspect Duncan Oldham and possibly members of his family/business are tax dodging or not paying National Insurance. Prepare a short list of reasons for your suspicion. It will take 5-10 minutes of your time.
I should think that in addition to registering information about Oldham and his family as individuals it would also be helpful to mention Koptalk.com as a business with relation to VAT and possibly corporate tax (although none of the business are incorporated).
Statements from Oldham that neither he nor his family employees earn a wage also suggest that he is not making National Insurance payments as an employer and he and his employees are not making them as self-employed.
Note: “Scouse” could not get a response from the above number. If someone can confirm it is not good I will remove it, but as far as I can tell it is good. After searching, scouse found that:
“There is also a specialist Tax Evasion Hotline dealing with income tax, corporation tax, capital gains tax, inheritance tax, VAT and National Insurance:”
You can complain online at
Benefit cheats – Job Seekers Allowance, Disability Allowance , Income Support
Again you do not have to give personal details. Simply fill out the form. Remember to note any suspicions you have about Oldham’s family members, too:
Property Tax Assessment: Scarborough
If he is claiming to live in Scarborough when he actually lives in Wallsend, he must have a reason. It is reasonable to suspect that it may have to do with him qualifying for benefits which require him to be living in Scarborough. And such locality-tied benefits could be about housing benefits or property-tax waivers. That is a council matter.
You can inform Scarborough Council of his contradictory statements about his place of residence and your suspicions. Look above under Duncan Oldham to see the Cross Street address he claims as home in Scarborough, and also mention the two Scarborough addresses for the PO Box 145. But remember to mention his Wallsend address, as well.
Property Tax Assessment: Wallsend – Tyne and Wear – North Tyneside
If he is being deceptive about his place of residence as between Wallsend and Scarborough it raises suspicions about the possibility that the Wallsend housing authorities may also be affected.
This excerpt taken from the North Tyneside web site:
“In order to allow the public to report their suspicions of benefit fraud in a safe and confidential manner, the council operates a 24 hour Confidential Fraud Hotline. Tel n.: 0191 2006578 You can use this telephone line to report any suspicions of fraud which you may have. The line is staffed during the hours of 8.30 a.m. and 4.30 p.m. Monday to Friday. At all other times, a Confidential Answering Service is available.”
His “Koptalk Office” in Wallsend would have needed planning permission since it is a very large extension to his house. Given that it is an obvious eyesore in the residential neighbourhood (even seen from satellite photos) and given Oldham’s general disregard for regulations, it might be worth asking the authorities if they are fully aware of the building and its use.
You could inform the Wallsend (Tyne and Wear) local authority that he runs several businesses from the building 24 hours a day 7 days a week. He employees several people there. It houses many computers and televisions and telephones. He uses the building exclusively for business (but one of his employees sleeps there during the night). The businesses are not incorporated or registered in any way. The businesses use at least two vehicles (possibly three) and he claims to be buying a large van fitted-out for broadcasting.
From those premises he sets up unregistered charities for relatives and collects donations, sells an internet broadcasting service, a podcast service and SMS service, football regalia sales and delivery service, adult date-finding services, betting services, pornographic services (his photographic model and his pornographic forums) news services, shares in lottery tickets and raffles and paid memberships (₤30 per annum) in an unregistered football-related club called “Koptalk.com” (he claims 6,000 members) and from where he publishes web pages devoted largely to his personal views about sex, race, immigration and football.
These factors have health and safety, traffic and parking implications not only for the participants but also for the neighbours.
This is an excerpt from the North Tyneside Council web page:
Contact Planning Enforcement for matters regarding;
Potential breaches of planning control, unlawful development, high hedges, development not in accordance with approved plans.
Tel: 0191 219 2167
Fax: 0191 219 2185
Remember to include the street address.
The North Tyneside Trading Standards inspectors do not deal with issues of VAT or Tax. They deal with complaints about trading practices.
This would include any false or misleading promotions like lottery tickets and competitions not honoured or not conducted in a fair and transparent manner. It could include any false claims he uses to sell memberships such as his claim to insider knowledge of LFC and contact with its investors, directors, executives and employees (including players). It might also include his stealing of copyright material and re-selling the product to his membership as though it were his own. It would include the issue of Oldham cancelling categories of memberships such as Silver, Insider, Lifetime, Honorary and creating new categories as a means of forcing existing members to pay more money to remain in Koptalk with friends they made there. It would include his cancelling individual memberships arbitrarilly, not observing his own published regulations or his contract with members or not dealing in a fair manner. His failing to pay refunds in whole or part of any memberships he has cancelled or for teh book he had not published. His collecting through PayPal automatic renewal mechanism new annual memberships without giving notice to members that he intended to do this even in cases where the members had ceased being active or had indicated that they did not wish to continue beyond their current annual membership. His refusal to give refunds of these automatic renewals. His failure to issue receipts for charitable donations or for payments for goods and services. His failure to keep proper accounts for his members or the authorities. His losing or misusing personal details, demanding too many personal details and not observing the Data Protection Act. His selling or revealing personal information to marketing companies or in using it to deduce the telephone numbers of the employers of his members and calling members at their place of work to threaten them. His threatening the contributors to this blog and his critics with “hitters” and “underworld friends”. His selling of fake LFC and other fake and pirated football regalia. His taking deposits on his book “Anfield Exposed” for more then two years and his admission that he has not even begun to write it.
In short, anything that smacks of dodgy trading.
It is really important that individuals who have been personally affected by his trading practices report the specific incidents. Others who have not been personally affected should try to give examples which support their suspicions. This can be statements made by Oldham or by other people on the net – including this blog.
Senior Trading Standards Officer
Environment, Regeneration & Housing
The Killingworth Site
PO Box 113
e-mail : firstname.lastname@example.org
(This article is a sticky which can be found in the tool bar in the Home Page under “4. Shop Oldham” Hopefully, it will be a collaborative effort between all the blog’s contributors. Readers are asked to check all the information and offer corrections, additions and links. This can be done as a comment at the end of the article or sent in confidence by email to rupertinsider @ gmail.com. Check back regularly to see the updates).
Steve McNeish aka Steve Oldham in the Koptalk Office, Wallsend (his mother Jeannete in background and Kate in foreground)
Jeannette McNeish (Duncan Oldham’s mother)
Possibly Maria Hartley, Duncan Oldham’s wife, and possibly Steve’s father, and Steve McNeish in Koptalk Office