"1892 Insider" - 1892.insider @ gmail.com
"Koptalk Outsider" - koptalk.outsider @ gmail.com
"Insider Insider" - Koptalk.Insider @ gmail.com
Another well respected member of koptalk left the site today. Actually he left a while back, but he wanted to say goodbye to his friends there, and explain to them why he was leaving. His post lasted only a few minutes, as you would expect, as there is still no room for criticism on koptalk. You are not allowed to state your opinion unless it’s approved by Dunk. Terry was also banned, not that I think he’s sorry for that.
If you are one of those who still use koptalk, or if you are considering signing up to the site, you should read what Terry has realized about koptalk. As far as I know, noone from this blog has been in touch with him before he decided to leave koptalk. I don’t even know if he has read this blog. But he points out a few of the most important issues we have been trying to get through for more than three years now. Here’s the post he made today:
#545438 – 4 minutes 13 seconds ago
Why I am leaving Koptalk
TerryJ
KopTalk VIPRegistered: 01/11/06
Posts: 1775
Loc: LiverpoolWell lads, time to say goodbye and let you know why I am leaving, although I am sure those who do not get the chance to read this before it is deleted by Dunk or one of his puppet mods, will be told that I still log on every day, post under a different name etc etc. Basically anything other than yet another long time member left because he realized just how bad things have gotten around here.
Main reasons for leaving;
Censorship,
Bullsh1t
Misinformation
Condescension by Dunk
Badmouthing of past members by Dunk
Lack of recognition of LFC related issuesAsk yourselves, how many threads are locked by Dunk for no logical reason?
Dave100 asks for SenorButch’s e-mail addy so he can talk to him about a Skybox and it is locked up pretty fast, real reason for locking it was that Dunk does not want members to communicate with each other, divide and conquer is his modus operandi. The board that Koptalk uses has many facilities that have been deliberately disabled by Dunk to prevent any form of communication between members, ask yourselves why. Why shouldn’t I be able to send a private message to another member just like I could do on other forums on whatever topic on the internet? Why are posts so quickly locked and deleted when anyone asks about another members whereabouts or e-mail address?
Someone posts about “Livertweet” and Dunk locks it without explanation. Someone asks why it was locked and Dunk replies, “it was closed purely to prevent any possible excitement/confusion”. Seems that Dunk only want us to read what he puts out through Informer and Wallet, who are of course, as everyone knows really, Dunk, that’s why Dave100 thanks Dunk nearly every time one of them makes a post. It is also pretty clear that 100% of what those two so called insiders post is made up bullsh1t put together from various other LFC sites and then qualified with a few corkers such as “it should happen tomorrow but it could be delayed so it might happen later”.
On the issue of lack of recognition of LFC related issues, go to any other LFC forum and look at the stickies concerning HJC, Michael Shields etc and look at what the posters on those sites do for these causes. Koptalk does absolutely nothing, they don’t mean anything to Dunk because it isn’t something he can make money from. To claim that it is a LFC community website and ignore these issues is a disgrace, could it be that Dunk doesn’t give a toss about LFC and sees this website as a chance to sit in Spain and feed his lifestyle by fleecing unsuspecting members of their hard earned money by feeding them bullsh1t?
Koptalk is dying on its feet and I think most of the remaining posters must realize that. There are still a few good posters there who surely must shake their heads when they log on to find inane drivel and bullsh1t. The recent exodus of long time and well respected posters such as SenorButch, RedKopMike, Ytse Jam, Selkirk, Sean Da Man, Penman and Cat2064 to name but a few has left the place soulless and deathly boring. The remaining long time posters like Lector and Legin hardly ever post anymore but I notice a lot of new members joining who I feel pity for.
I have found a much better place to spend my time and it is good to see a lot of the good posters there. It is a place completely free of the bullsh1t and negativity that we see posted on Koptalk and it is free. I have also done a bit of research about the so called haterz that Dunk claims are having a go at him because he banned them from Koptalk. That in itself is bullsh1t as they actually banned themselves. These people don’t hate Dunk, they don’t like him that’s for sure but what they are actually trying to do is to stop Dunk ripping off unsuspecting but true reds fans.Dunk would do anything for money, remember the “buy me a pint” farce? If I was an LFC website owner and someone openly slagged me off on a blog as a former, now returned member, Kop, has done, would I take him back? Would I [oops]. Ask yourselves why Dunk has taken him back, the answer in common with most questions asked about Dunks integrity is money. You have it, he wants it and he will do anything to get his hands on it. Do you really think Dunk would pay out to the posters contributing to his latest Euro lottery scam? I don’t think so.
Anyway, time to say goodbye now, maybe I will speak to some of the good people on this site sometime in the future. Think about what I have said and sort your heads out. You will then know what to do.
Bye,
TerryJ
If you want to get in touch with Terry having read his post, I’m sure I can arrange that. Just send me an e-mail and I’ll forward it to him.
July 25, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Glad to see sense is finally sweeping thru the place
July 25, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Very good leaving post and he got got his message across very well. Fair play Terry and I hope a few leave after reading that. Seems like alot of people are leaving Dunk lately:)
July 26, 2009 at 12:23 am
Terry was one of the most prolific posters. He established himself with dignity @ Kraptalk. Wish him the best!
July 26, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Terry is without doubt one of the goodguys. Hes always honest, contibutes a hell of a lot.
Glad to see such a good bloke dicovering the truth bout that place. Long may it continue with other members.
July 26, 2009 at 6:49 pm
What a very thoughtful and honest assessment of koptalks standing.
For the remaining members of koptalk, look at those who have recently left the site. Ytse,redkopmike,selkirk senorbutch, terryj, The cat and penman. Ask yourselves this, “why did they leave” did they get banned for unacceptable beligerent posts or where they negative posters, hell bent on destruction ? could they no longer afford to pay subs ? The answer is a resounding no to all 3 questions.
The posters above were the creativity and the little vibrance that was on koptalk. They were not the little suck arses that hang out in the shoutbox like biggy, camerooney and one or three others. What does it represent when guys like that, voluntarily leave the site. In my opinion, they have seen dunk for what he is. They have seen thru all the fake we are a family claims. It is my fellow reds as Terryj bluntly put it, “Dunk would do anything for the money”
He will steal from newspaper articles and add “koptalk sources understand” to try and autenticicate his made up connections. wallet and informer are fabrications of these newspaper articles.
Ask dunk(again) about these posters who have left and whats the story. He will tell you that they are here and have changed their usernames. Then ask him why they are not making any contributions in terms of posting?
He wont ban them as long as they are silent but wont hesitate to move in for the kill should they pipe up like terry did. So they sit in silence whilst their subs run out and from observation watch the scam unfold.
Ask of your fellow members, why does butchodowd get attacked simply because he doesnt believe that wallet and informer are legitimate?
Dont beat yourself up about Dunk taking you for a con. Its happened to hundreds of us. We never got banned, we did as the posters named above did, we saw thru the scam and the lies and found alternative sites. Reach out for some help if you need it. You can get past and move on from koptalk.
As Terryj said though and make no bones about this, “Dunk will do anything to get his hands on the money” He is a slave to your subs and will cull anything remotely that might disrupt getting his hands on it.
July 28, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Interesting post.Can you please let me know which site Terry has switched to as i would like to do the same. I’ve joined a few alternatives but can’t find one i’m really taken with. If i was to leave KT am i entitled to any of my membership sub back?
July 28, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Glad to see another has come to their senses. OlHam is all about getting your cash. He’ll never see another farthing of mine.
July 29, 2009 at 1:12 am
dunk says he wil be financially better off if he never run the site and that he does it because he loves it. Lets see, 1500 members at 41 euros a pop works out to about 61 grand but he does it for the love of it. hahahahahahahahahaha.
If you do it for the love dunk, use any american server which will cost you no more than 5000 dollars for the year. same bandwith and the same specs that you use now. Stop lying about pop ups on the site, we both know thats a load of shite. Stop pretending to the paying customer that you have insiders when you dont.
Let the members openly debate leaving threads, open the pm function and make adjustments for the members to cover the 5000 server fees. Then again, how you gonna make those trips to america etc etc etc without doing it on the back of koptalk members?
Tell the members about your interviews with the trading and standards officer and the real reason you fucked off to spain.
Tell your members it is indeed a business and not a hobby and I will never post another post about you
July 29, 2009 at 2:50 am
Terrys reasons for leaving as below
Censorship,
Bullsh1t
Misinformation
Condescension by Dunk
Badmouthing of past members by Dunk
Lack of recognition of LFC related issues
Ask yourselves, how many threads are locked by Dunk for no logical reason?
Bubonic started a thread about koptalk haterz and dunk responded with his usual defensive tactics. Not once did he address terrys opinions
Dunk denies he reads the blog (haha) for those of you that do, in the interest of fairness, the next time someone posts a leaving thread, Will a koptalk member ask dunk not to delete or lock the thread but leave it open to debate the merits.
Let the leaving member have his say instead of being called a muppet. There must be one of you brave enough to ask this simple question or are you all afraid of being part of the cull.
July 29, 2009 at 6:43 am
Revo:
Would you care to elaborate a little more about his interviews with the Trading and Standards Officer and the real reason/s he moved to Spain.
Thanks
July 29, 2009 at 11:55 am
Hey guys.
Going to throw my opinions and thoughts out there and ask a couple of questions.
Firstly (and most importantly?), I would just like to say I’m sat on the fence, mainly because I have never really cared about any of this in the past. I don’t hate Dunk because I have no reason to, he has never wronged me personally.
Secondly, I pay the sub for Koptalk because I love the community on there, I make no secret of that. I believe (and always have done) that Dunk is the informer, and I’m pretty certain that he isn’t an insider. Why do I think the informer is Dunk? Basically because it’s just so “gimmicky”, that the “informer” will mysteriously appear from time to time and deliver his ‘inside info’. I also question why somebody who never posts beside his “informant” posts, would share this so-exclusive information with people that he very rarely actually speaks to. Maybe if the guy had 9k posts I could believe he at least wasn’t Dunk, but that’s obviously not the case. Wallett seems to be pretty similar in terms of not communicating besides his “informant” posts.
People often get angry if “insider” information is questioned and throw terms out there like “why pay the subs if you don’t want the insider info?” and that irritates me, like I said, I’m a member because of the community, not for the “info”. That’s something that tends to happen, the site gets marketed in that way.
I did figure out a long time ago that Dunk makes a living from Koptalk, there’s no way that the site costs upwards of £40,000 a year to run.
Bottom line of my thoughts? I don’t hate Dunk, I just don’t agree with some of the things he does (the “inside” info and relentless marketing on the front page). I’m a member of Koptalk and will continue to be. All of my views are completely my own and I made them with my own observations. What I say is merely my own opinion.
Got a couple of questions though;
Firstly, how many members does Koptalk actually have? If known, how do you know this?
July 29, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Hi Sureflow,
You say you love Koptalk because of the community and I agree there are still some great lads posting there amongst one or two that I am glad to see the back of. However there isn’t a community in the real sense of the word on Koptalk. How can members of a community be banned from communicating with one another when the facility to do so exists on the board but has been disabled.
My post was taken down pretty quickly. In a community, it would have been left there for debate. I would gladly have accepted pople telling me it is all my imagination and would have openly debated and defended my position in a civilised manner.
However, that is not possible on Koptalk, Dunk would never allow it as he doesn’t want himslef to be exposed for what he is.
Like you, I was sat on the fence for some time, I never really thought about these issues but when I started to get suspicious I decided to do a bit of research and the penny dropped and quite frankly it hurt me to know that I was supporting this con man in his efforts to fleece fellow supporters. He is a parasite living off the blood of fellow reds like yourself and he needs to be stopped.
Do yourself a favour and read all the articles on this site, not just the latest news ones like this. From now on when you are on Koptalk, start to question what Dunk is posting and why.
I sincerley hope you come to your senses and find another site because when you do, you will see what a real community is like and like me, you will wonder how you could have been so gullible for all those years.
Best of luck mate.
TerryJ
July 29, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I’ve read through a lot of the stuff on this site and I can’t say that it’s particuarly influenced me, it’s obvious that there’s a lot of people who hate Dunk and he probably feels the same way about them. So I don’t really pay much attention to their fighting and don’t get involved. I don’t know anything about Dunk’s personal life and don’t really want to, it’s none of my business.
Like I said, I’ve made up my own mind and everything I believe about Koptalk was only what I think, not what I have read and begun believing.
I just enjoy sharing my views about Liverpool with the people who are on KT, like you said terry, there’s still some great guys on there. That’s why I’m still a member.
July 29, 2009 at 4:19 pm
If you’re a Liverpool supporter you know how strongly we feel about the S*n “news”paper.
If you don’t just say so and I’m sure we can point you to some links so you can read it all for yourself.
But presuming you do know about it, and the boycott, Dunk’s use of the S*n should be enough to convince you.
In an old pic of him at the France 98 World Cup he was wearing a freebie hat provided by the S*n. He even put it on his website. Later on he’d deny knowing about the boycott at the time because he’d lived away from Liverpool at the time – but posts on Usenet from before 1998 showed he was well aware of the boycott. He just chose to disregard it.
He then blurred the Sun’s logo and kept on using the photo. He also carried stories on his site that many Reds wouldn’t have heard. That’s because he’d lifted them from The S*n.
He actually admitted in the end that he bought the paper every day. He also carried ads for it on his site, then pretended he didn’t know.
All for attention. All for hits. All for money.
All for one. Himself.
If that’s not enough, read up on the boycott of the S*n. If it’s still not enough, go and find another club to support.
July 29, 2009 at 5:59 pm
SIMON
“My cousin participated in the last charity scam. She deliberately paralysed herself so I could exploit her”
dunks latest quip today. Its not the issue and he know it. Ask him how much was collected and what was the accountability factor.
July 29, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Hi Sureflow,
So you’re happy to pay and will continue to do so, with that in mind why do you need to know how people on here know the subscription numbers?
It’s puzzling to me that you’re more than happy to ignore the blatant lies from duncan because you like the community but hey it’s your money
You do know that there are other sites out there with good communities minus the fee right?
Sorry I can’t answer your question as I personally don’t have access to that site and never have…
July 29, 2009 at 10:01 pm
I notice we’ve had a big increase in visitors the last two days. I assume it’s because of the koptalk haters thread on koptalk, as many of those who posts there say they’ve seen this site.
If you are one of these koptalk members who just recently found this site, or haven’t really spent any time reading it before, I suggest you read the main posts in the top menu. There you will find all the main “issues” we have with koptalk and Duncan Oldham. You will see how he uses the s*n as a news source. You will see how he has taken multiple subs a year from many members. You will see how he has sold fake signed merchandise. You will see how he has made up “inside” information to lure people into paying for access. Going on through this blog, with 800+ posts and 13000+ comments, you will find lies, lies and more lies from Dunk, all made to get more money. You will find charity scams. You will find competition scams. You will find out about the book he took deposits for years ago, but never materialised. There are still lots of people who haven’t got a refund.
The best part of this is that you can ask us any question you like, either here on the blog as comments, or ou can send us an e-mail. We’ll do what we can to help you out on these issues. Recently I’ve been in touch with members who stayed on koptalk just because they didn’t know how to stop the auto-renewal. I’ve been in touch with someone who said he wanted to end his sub, but was still charged and did not get a refund. Now these members have stopped their renewals and will be leaving.
July 29, 2009 at 10:10 pm
kraptalk_addict: I think sureflow wants to know the membership numbers because Dunk claims to have thousands of members wo renew every year, but still the forums are dead quiet at times. On the other side there are us who claims koptalk hasn’t got thousands of renewing members, and that membership numbers are going down. So who’s telling the truth? Sureflow: you’ve got mail (if the address you put up here is correct).
July 30, 2009 at 12:09 am
Membership number total is something that can only ever increase over time, so it is not an accurate indicator of how many people now use the site. Site stats are the only way of telling and I’m sure even his former partner in crime Steve MacNeish wasn’t privvy to that information, as Duncan Oldham trusts nobody.
Here’s the closest we can get, Alexa figures for Koptalk and Red And White Kop, to show the disparity in traffic:
http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?&w=400&h=220&o=f&c=1&y=r&b=ffffff&r=2y&u=koptalk.com&&u=redandwhitekop.com&
July 30, 2009 at 12:43 am
To quote Koptalk Outsider:
“The best part of this is that you can ask us any question you like, either here on the blog as comments, or ou can send us an e-mail.”
I asked Revo this question yesterday but no reply.
Any chance you could throw some light on these comments?
Revo:
Would you care to elaborate a little more about his interviews with the Trading and Standards Officer and the real reason/s he moved to Spain.
Thanks
July 30, 2009 at 1:09 am
Simon :
everything you need is linked below.
http://koptalkinsider.wordpress.com/scam-alert/
July 30, 2009 at 10:04 am
Sheetbag: If I’m a Liverpool supporter? :/
Of course I’m a Liverpool supporter and of course I know about the s*n boycott. I wasn’t around when all this “S*n advertising” was meant to have happened so I don’t know what actually happened there. I know there was some picture taken of Dunk with a hat on which had the S*n logo on it but that could easily be just ignorance as opposed to flat out disrespectful. No offence to anybody on here but I don’t know a lot of you and you all obviously hate Dunk, am I just meant to take your word and believe that he plastered the S*n logo all over his site? Like I said, no offence, it’s just hard to know what to believe in a situation like this.
Obviously if I saw a S*n logo on the site with my own eyes then it would be the last time I’d go on there.
kraptalk_addict:
I want to know the subscription numbers purely for my calculations as to how much money Dunk turns over. Nothing more.
Thank you koptalk insider for the information.
July 30, 2009 at 10:25 am
Hi again Sureflow,
“Like I said, no offence, it’s just hard to know what to believe in a situation like this”.
Ask youself this question:
“Could I contact any of my fellow members at KT to ask them their opinion on what is contained on this blog? Could I post a message on KT to ask other members can they remember seeing Dunk with a S*n hat on?”
You know the answer, a big fat no. Dunk has disabled the PM function on the site and he will not allow any access to other posters e-mail address’s. Reason being, he doesn’t want you to communicate as the lies and deceit will surely surface if he does.
I sense that you have strong doubts about Dunks character and what lies behind Koptalk but if you are not prepared to jump ship just yet, all I ask is that you an open mind and watch closely what happens on that site.
Cheers,
TerryJ
July 30, 2009 at 10:45 am
TerryJ: Where do you get your LFC addiction now that you left KT?
July 30, 2009 at 2:19 pm
I do find it a little strange that somebody who has no real problem with koptalk, would take the time out to read about dunk’s so called “haterz” and then post about the fact. I have no real problem with the liberal democrats, but i dont go looking for somewhere that may post things that are negative against them (true or not). If the community was that good, you could talk amongst fellow fence sitters and have a good old laugh.
Why do you not post on koptalk asking why the PM is not turned on and why you cannot contact fellow members? Why does dunk need to vet things before he will allow you to speak to a member of the koptalk “family”? The key here is, dunk needs to control everything in order to keep it in check.
Dunk, you read this so why dont you enable your community to act like one and communicate with each other. You always say how you enjoy the promotion so “disruptive haterz” cannot be used as an excuse for disabling this feature.
Koptalkers, ask the question and wait for the response
July 30, 2009 at 5:44 pm
What was Kraptalk like before Dunk took it over?
July 30, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Not sure about Sureflow myself. Everybody here is allowed to ask questions here, so I’d ask Sureflow: how you can disregard the overwhelming evidence to be found on this site that KT is ripping off Liverpool fans?
July 30, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Sureflow. Your posts are puzzling me, you only seem capable of rational thought when it comes to defending Kontalk, however when it comes to the mountain of evidence that has been collated on this website you seem to take it all with a pinch of salt. This isn’t about hatred or vendettas, it’s about educating the gullable and misinformed (clearly you fall into both of these brackets) of the lies and scams that Duncon has used to promote his business.
I’m perplexed how anyone can claim to be a Liverpool fan, yet completely gloss over the evidence provided here. When I first read this site I was left shell shocked that such a person could exploit and cheat so many people. I’m not having a go; I just get suspicious in the face of such selective ignorance and logic.
July 30, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Can anyone see a repeat scam brewing …….
latest from DunCon – “Worried about someone very special to me. They’re thinking the worst due to a medical issue that has cropped up. Fingers crossed all’s ok.”
He will be collecting money for this very special person soon…
July 30, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Sureflow, like you I really enjoyed the KT community for a time. But the more I became part of it the more I realised that Dunk’s approach to the community is focused heavily on what it can do for him, rather than the reverse. The thing is I didn’t know any better at the time. I thought Koptalk must be vastly superior because you pay for it when the reality is Dunk preys on fans by offering largely what other sites do for free.
I’d encourage you to look around at the other sites, there are many excellent ones out there which are operated by actual fans as opposed to a guy who takes the money of his fellow supporters and uses it to subsidise his life in Spain and other business ventures.
July 30, 2009 at 11:23 pm
If you go and read the pages on here about The S*n then Sureflow you’ll have plenty questions to ask Dunk. There’s loads of evidence on here, especially in the earliest pages of this blog.
With regards to the post above about him trying it on with another medical situation cropping up, I reckon that’s more likely to be aimed at Katie and Steve than anyone else.
And he’s had a falling out with one of his moanvideo chums too.
The wannabe paedo OMV was first to back him up. He’s like the new Rich Tea.
July 31, 2009 at 8:35 am
I’ve read through parts of this site but I’ve not read through a lot since I don’t have that much time on my hands. (unlike some)
Good to see that since I last visited this site I’ve been called gullable, misinformed and questioned as a Liverpool fan. I like your recruitment policy guys.
The reason I came here and started posting was just to see how receptive you would all be to my (preformed) opinions and to just generally offer a different perspective.
I’m still sat on the fence, and I will continue to read through the stuff on this site, as I read through my opinion may change, I’m not narrow minded or stubborn and will take it in. Like I said, I figured out certain things for myself and I’ll read through more of the items on this site and will take the necessary actions if I feel like Dunk has, say, intentionally promoted the s*n newspaper.
For now I’ll just say this, I came to this site with an open-minded view, as somebody who is a member of Koptalk I would think I fall into your key-demographic. I am in the process of reading through your evidence, and will continue to do so until I form a final view on Dunk. Will all that said, I don’t appreciate you questioning my allegiance to Liverpool.
July 31, 2009 at 10:17 am
sureflow – there is no recruitment agenda here so its a bit odd that you use that term of phrase.
As for the sun stuff, it takes 10 minutes to read the thread and see the screen shots of his promotion both verbally in that he buys he purely for “research” and also the flashing banners that appear on the site.
If you really are looking to get some answers then the best person to ask is dunk via the community that is koptalk.
Ask him why he does not let a community communicate with each other? Ask him why other users cannot request email addresses of other members without having to go through him first. the reason is paranoia and the fear of losing control. just ask him though and im pretty sure the “haterz” will be mentioned despite him repeatedly banging the drum of free advertising that he gets
July 31, 2009 at 10:23 am
Well I’m guessing by the way you’re trying to stop Koptalk that you’d start by getting paying members to stop. Admittedly ‘recruitment’ was the wrong word to use.
I’d imagine the S*n pages don’t take long to read through, but it’s not the only page on the site.
July 31, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Well I’ve just put some time aside and read through an hours worth of pages, and I agree with this blog, I didn’t see the true extent of Dunk’s bullshit until now. (mainly because I wasn’t around back in 2006 when the majority of this stuff seemed to be happening)
I knew the insider was him, I was pretty sure wallett was him and I knew he made a living from Koptalk. Never saw the rest coming.
From the ridiculous scouse accent and wig stereotyping video to other ludicrous claims, it’s confirmed it for me.
Dunk’s claims never do actually come to fruition, I remember the “what I know will blow your mind” speeches from last year and it’s all shite.
Sickening.
July 31, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Sureflow,
Great to see you have read through the articles here and you have come to the same conclusion that I did.
Sickened is exactly how I felt.
I assume you will now leave the site and I truly hope you find somewhere better to spend your time.
Good luck mate.
July 31, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Hi Sureflow,
Sorry that you’ve actually been caught out by the conman but obviously you’re not alone in that. I am pleased that you’ve found the time to browse this site a little more and learn the true extent of his unscrupulous activities however.
There is one thing I have to say though and it’s something duncan has used to keep his members aligned with his ideas.
WE DON’T HATE HIM, this is not some mindless personal vendetta or bout of jealousy. This is about getting the real situation out to a group of fellow Liverpool supporters who, due to the way kt is setup cannot get that information by talking to each other privately.
You may want to look up the paypal thread or contact one of the admin here if you’re looking to cancel your subs as I’d guess they’re set to auto-renew, that thread and the admin here can help you.
July 31, 2009 at 6:32 pm
exactly kraptalk. dunk peddles the myth that he has all these haterz, but this is nothing to do with hate against him.
Yes, it is funny to laugh at him and the pathetic lengths he goes to to try and persuade people he is top guy, but its about stopping someone using the good name of our club to milk a lifestyle. If he was open and admitted koptalk was his livelihood, there would not be a problem, yet he continually claims to not make a penny, but on other sites claims people are jealous of his success and wealth from the site. It cant be both ways.
The fact he goes to such extraordinary lengths to stop members communicating with each other goes to show how he does not want this myth to end.
We couldnt care less about his other interests, but you can guarantee they are all funded, or initially funded, by koptalk subs that supposedly go back into the site.
July 31, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Its is totally understandable that he block people from talking to each other in private.
I dont think Id run a site where I couldnt see everything my paying members were saying to each other lol
July 31, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Before Dunk took over Kraptalk people could send private messages to each other. What’s wrong with members messaging each other?
July 31, 2009 at 11:23 pm
sureflow: I’m pleased that you took your time to read a few more blog posts. I’m not surprised you came to the conclusion you did. I’ve seen so many times that those who actually bother reading this blog with an open mind will in 99.9% (as Dunk would put it) of the cases come to the same conclusion. It’s a pity not more of the koptalk members will do the same.
August 1, 2009 at 1:27 pm
kraptalk addict:
I know it’s not a mindless vendetta, you’re fully justified in what you do. I don’t know whether you all hate him or not but do you blame me for thinking that when people speak so viciously of him on here?
August 1, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Sureflow Dunk is imorral on every aspect,ffs he’s actualy proud that his son (young son) likes to emulate him,what kind of parent lets his young son eat 4 fecking steaks ?
Seriously if there is one man on the planet who knows the dangers of over eating it should be dunk but no.
If i were the boys mother i’d use his actions to force supervised visitation.
The Guy is killing the boy before he’s had a chance to grow & if that makes me a hater then i am proud to hate.
August 1, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Sureflow
To fully understand I would guess you need to understand what football means to scousers. Look at the statements from Bill and Bob and you may get a glimpse of the passion which our club inspires within us. Our club has always been proud of its family feeling and our supporters all over the world who share the passion have always been part of that family.
We lost 96 members of our family 20 years ago and we will never forget nor will we ever forgive those that try and inflict pain on this family – like that newspaper. He has so much in common with that rag in that neither of them know no depths they will not sink to in order to make money out of our fans.
The bastard has used those feelings and make a living out of lying and cheating and deception.
The feelings run so high that if he ever set foot in the City let alone in the ground he would likely be in a whole mess of hurt.
I really and basically couldnt give a flying fuck about him and once he closes down any linkage to the club and its supporters then he will be left alone I would guess by most of us feel the same.
He is not that important.
try and understand the pain – it aint hate he aint worth it.
August 1, 2009 at 4:20 pm
“To fully understand I would guess you need to understand what football means to scousers.”
What the hell do you know about me? How dare you even imply that I don’t understand any of this or that I’m some absolute moron who doesn’t care about this.
For your information, I am from Liverpool and I do understand the magnitude of losing 96 fans. People very close to me nearly died on that day and it sickens me that it was advertised on KT, I never for one second was OK with that and as soon as I saw what Dunk had done (by reading this blog), I was immediately in support and fully against Dunk’s operations.
August 1, 2009 at 5:09 pm
People are being a bit unkind to Sureflow just because he didn’t immediately form his opinion on Koptalk after reading a few articles.
He said clearly that he would take time to read through the articles on this blog before he would make up his mind . He has now read more of the blog and is of the same opinion as the rest of us. Lets face it there is a lot to read on here for the sole reason that Dunk has done a lot of conning in his time.
Hopefully Sureflow, you can do some good work to help stop this con merchant and spread the word on Koptalk before you rid youself of that place.
Good luck,
TerryJ
August 1, 2009 at 5:20 pm
SIMON, SUREFLOW OR ANY OTHER KOPTALKERS
“Villa covered but the Spanish papers are quoting a report from today’s S*n newspaper. There are no Spanish-based reports suggesting we have an interest as yet.”
Dunk posted this today and not one of you challenged him about quoting from the Rag. I am not attacking anyone here but I do not know of one other LFC site that would allow that to happen without a mutiny.
If you ever needed the evidence to see how this shitehawk operates its right there for you.
August 1, 2009 at 5:22 pm
sureflow – i think you may have taken the comment as personal attack. You obviously display thought and reason by the way you have read before forming an opinion. The comment about scousers seems to meant as a general comment about some of the other koptalkers who probably dont understand the “real” meaning of liverpool family and are only used to dunks way of LFC and his total lack of respect to liverpool in general
August 1, 2009 at 7:06 pm
sureflow,
there was no intent to have a go at you – none at all. I was trying to explain how we, who have kept up the vigil against the fatman, feel and try to explain that its not hatred – he is not worth that. You seem to have been used to an environemnt where you have to justify and defend yourself continually.
You dont need to do with the real family we take you as you are until you do otherwise like the steak monster. He was accepted at first on face value by a lot of people and then he started he fleecing tactics and most of us cleared off … i doubt if many of us paid him anything because he has nothing of any value or worth to pay for.
We are still keeping a watching ( and slagging him off) virgil on him until he either dies as a result of his appalling lifestyle or else fucks off and leaves Livepool – its city its football team (the toffees dont count) and it supporters alone.
I hope that comes across better.
Cheers Sureflow its never too late to get outa dodge (thats dodge city in bootle)
August 1, 2009 at 9:14 pm
So Dunk realized the koptalk haters thread was in fact negative publicity despite most of those posting being positive. It genereated loads of hits for us by koptalk members wanting to read what it’s all about. Now the thread is deleted. I guess I’ll have to make a blog post about it when time permits. Don’t sit up waiting for it though.
I got an e-mail from Sean_Da_Man who said he had been banned after posting that he would be leaving. I haven’t seen what he wrote, but if that was all then Dunk is really deluded. Can he not even tolerate that members are saying they will be leaving? The post is also deleted.
August 2, 2009 at 6:09 am
This was seans leaving post :
I am leaving…
I’m leaving because I choose to, and not because of any outside influence, nor am I following a “clique”.
I’m leaving because this summer I decided to see what else is out there, and I have found alot of free sites, some are good, some are bad, and one in particular is actually better than here…..
I am not leaving because20Dunk has wronged me in any way or because of the KT Outsider.
I’m leaving simply because I found a better place to be…
Funnily enough I’m actually banned from the place I want to be…
I have never claimed to have left KT, and while I do feel Dunk was baiting me in the “Koptalk Haters” thread… Ino Dunk knows what has been going on with me and a few others, and I’m sure he knows exactly where everyone has gone too.
I did form friends here, some have left and some are still here, but I just feel that in my time here the site has lost alot of what I was here for….
The money is not an issue for me, I can afford it, and I also feel that Dunk has every right to earn a living from a website….
Dunk has always been good to me and shown me respect, so I will not say anything bad about him, unlike others that have left….
I will actually miss this place when I’m gone, but I just feel it is time to do so….
I’m sure Dunk (hope) will pass on my info to those who would like to keep in touch….
sean had 8 days left on his subs and dunk threw him out for a post like this.
If this is not the time for koptalkers to wake up and smell the coffee then You deserve everything you get.
Big Frank, naveed, Butchodowd, dan perkins, red adair,stealth, where the hell are you guys to allow this to happen.
you should resign on principle.
August 2, 2009 at 6:31 am
Theres a thread on koptalk about hating the owners (hicks and gillett :
Oh the Irony of dunks reply,
“When I spent an afternoon Hicks’ office in Dallas, I came out liking the guy and all of his people. They really did sell themselves to me. I actually think he’s a nice guy.
However, since that meeting, it has become evident that they’re liars. They want to sell and maximise their profits which I understand but the treatment of Rafa Benitez is enough for me not to trust them again.”
Dunk Dunk Dunk, talk about looking at the man in the mirror.
you also forgot to mention to tell your members and your haterz that after conning your way into see Hicks, you were mugged in Dallas. Blog knows best eh
August 2, 2009 at 3:16 pm
It is my belief that sureflow’s time has been well spent reading the backgrounds here. When one actually finds out for the first time, it’s sickening.
This post is directed at any Koptalkers who chose to read through this and want my honest opinion (one I wasn’t going to post because it would have met the same fate as TerryJ’s above). I’ve several years experience with KT and now have seen it properly from the outside. It’s not a pretty picture!
I’ve known about Dunk’s background for a long time, but I’ll be honest — I liked interacting with my mates on Koptalk, had generally excellent discussions with many of them, and Dunk left me alone. He was happy to take my membership fees and I was happy to talk to my mates.
However, KT’s dying a slow death, it’s almost dead, many of the better posters were either posting much less, not posting, lurking, lost interest or simply left the site. The sites you see up to the right are (for those I have membership and those I’ve surfed through) much better, busier and with quality posts/posters. They are all Liverpool fansites and therefore our brothers and sisters and they don’t charge a fee. They talk to each other, are not censored, there’s cross pollination, and a great craic.
I’d like to be clear again: I left because Koptalk’s a significantly inferior site to other LFC fansites and nothing to do with Dunk and his background. I hadn’t posted since mid May, but the final straw was Dunk continuing to list me with all the Koptalk Haterz (those guys usually listed are my mates and none of them are Koptalk Haterz — they just think the site’s crap now) and I stuck up for them yesterday. Those posts (as Revo mentioned) have all been deleted, my thread was deleted, and Frank’s recent thread wishing me well was locked and Dunk badmouthed me again saying I had an alternate agenda. I do not. I don’t hate KT, I don’t hate KT-ers and I don’t hate Dunk. I just think the site’s crap now.
To those on KT today reading this, put aside the issue of Duncan Oldham** for a second and simply ask yourself is KT any good now?
The guys who run this site have my email addy if any of you knew me from KT and want to contact me directly. I’ll set you straight on a lot of the misinformation spread by Dunk.
Just keep an open mind, do the research, and think about it.
-Bill
** That’s a whole different story and one that’s addressed comprehensively on this site by others much more knowledgeable than me.
August 2, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Cheers Bill.
We just can’t ignore all the scams and lies from Dunk, but as you say: The koptalk site is now so bad that this alone should be reason enough to leave. Why pay for a site that is worse than loads of free sites?
August 2, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Scams and lies from Dunk is one thing. You lads do the research and let us know what you find.
My critical point, as you’ve said, is that KT is a very poor compared to what it was a few years ago and has been in steady decline — while other sites have improved dramatically.
That fact alone is the reason I left.
Duncan won’t be happy to read this from me, because it will affect his business and when money’s involved, the whole games changes.
I’m not going to belabour the point. Most KT-ers are smart enough to do the mathematics (a subject with which, most know, I have some experience).
August 4, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Do we need to take the fight onto Twitter as well? The fat git is starting to dialog with people like Paul Dalglish etc – he will eventually start to recruit liverpool supporters to his spiders web through that vehicle.
August 4, 2009 at 10:42 pm
We have a few friends on twitter already exposing koptalk.
August 5, 2009 at 5:16 am
IMO Dunk has every right to charge for his site, hell if I could make a living from home off a website, I would do it too, but I find that Dunk’s deliberate deleting, and closing of goodbye threads is crazy….
If so many people are joining, and he thinks of us as a family, he should allow goodbye’s to be given out…
He should also pass on contact info to those who may want to keep in touch with those that have left…
So what if they go to another site… We are all LFC fans, and by him not doing these things, it just reflects badly on him…
He seems very confident in KT, so why should he be upset if people leave and say goodbye…
I will say that deleting threads that bash KT is warranted, as I would do the same, but if there is no malice in the post, such as mine, then why delete it?
I enjoyed my time on KT, and have nothing really to say bad about the place or Dunk, but there are things that make you wonder….
Any inside information (to me) should be taken with a grain of salt, because we have no idea who these people are, who they know etc… But to pretend to be an insider or have insider info and use that as a drawing point to the site to me is just low class…
KT was good during my time there, but I chose to leave of my own free will, and I would think that if I was such a valuable member/poster, Dunk would have tried to actually get me to stay? He did not….
Ah well, such is life…..
August 5, 2009 at 7:19 am
Interesting Sean_da_man, what duncan does is what you describe as low class but you have no problem with him or the site…
So why did you leave? He deleted a post of yours and didn’t make you feel valuable to the site?
Big fail duncan, sean is the type of member you really need to put an arm around as they’re more than happy with you blatantly telling lies or stealing news sources and passing it off as your own inside info. Must try harder
August 5, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Kraptalk… Why are you trying to pick a a fight with me? Read the post that Revo put up, it says why I left….
Dunk has never wronged me personally, but he obviously has done to you, you should just be happy that I left regardless of the reason, as that is what you really want is it not?
I never said Dunk was low class, what I said was….
“Any inside information (to me) should be taken with a grain of salt, because we have no idea who these people are, who they know etc… But to pretend to be an insider or have insider info and use that as a drawing point to the site to me is just low class…”
It is easy to try bully someone over the internet, being able to hide behind your anonymity, but your really just a sad little man…..
Give it a rest….
August 5, 2009 at 3:19 pm
What we try to do here is to inform people about the dodgy way Dunk runds koptalk. Out aim is to stop Liverpool fans being ripped off by him. So when members choose to leave, we don’t really care wht they’re reasons are. We should just be happy to see another one let off Dunk’s hook. Sean was a valued member on koptalk, with lots of good posts. It’s a major loss to the site that he has left. Let’s just leave it there.
August 5, 2009 at 5:46 pm
’sean_da_man’
I wasn’t trying to pick a fight with you, if you took offence then I’m sorry. I’ll ignore the small man name calling…
I was compelled to reply to your message because you said you had no problem with the site or duncan and then went on to say that anyone that pretends to have inside info is low class…..well, that’s exactly what is done on kt, they pretend to have inside info and use it as a selling point to current and potential subscibers…
As for the revo post, I didn’t know that was related to you. After reading the post before it by outsider I see that it was…
Glad you came to the conclusion that there are better sites out there for free
August 5, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Also I’ve never been a member of kt, I’m here like many others because I don’t like seeing fellow Liverpool fans being duped…
August 5, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Kraptalk… No stress mate….
I guess I could have been a little more clear in my post….
It’s all good….
August 6, 2009 at 1:29 am
to pretend to be an insider or have insider info and use that as a drawing point to the site to me is just low class?
to pretend to be an insider or have insider info and use that as a drawing point to the site to me is just fraudulent!
August 6, 2009 at 7:10 am
Thare are alot of “Koptalk News” items that are taken from papers, and they not given the credit…….
Doesn’t matter now, as I am done…
What goes around, comes around, and so I’m sure things will balance out in the end……
August 6, 2009 at 8:56 am
Sean_Da-Man:
I liked your spirit last season in the run-in. You kept your head high and was convinced we were gonna win, I liked your posts
Where is the place to go after KT?
August 6, 2009 at 9:09 am
much of that ‘koptalk news’ is taken from the sun because he knows that the majority of his visitors will not have seen it elsewhere because other sites don’t reproduce it. he does it to appear to be exclusive.
August 6, 2009 at 9:44 am
Shellshock, Thanks for the compliment…
I try to maintain a positive attitude as often as I can, especially when we still have a chance to win some silverware…. I cannot stand it when before a ball is even kicked, “so-called LFC fans” are already handing out the tropies to other teams, and tipping us to finish no better than 4th, or saying “It is Man U’s to lose”…
Until all this Xabi nonsense I was absolutely positive we would win the league this season, now I’m not so sure… I have a lot faith in the team, but I have to see who else Rafa brings in before I weigh in on that…
I cannot say where else to go here, but people who are there, are here, so they may get in touch with you…
There are alot more places to go than KT tho, and they are all free…. Just have a look around
I’m not sure of the rules on this blog, so I will not name names…. sorry
Sean
August 6, 2009 at 10:10 am
I have written my email, perhaps admin could send it to you.
I agree with you fully, I hate when people writte us off before a ball is kicked or we still have the opportunity to win the league.
I still have faith in the team and rafa, he’ll bring in more signings. I know because Dunk told me
hehehe
August 6, 2009 at 10:15 am
Not sure there are any rules, other than calling the fat cunt names once in a while.
And people who followed this blog or contributed to it for a while can get a bit shocked when they hear there is people on koptalk (or elsewhere) who have no problem with Duncon because they have seen him for what he is. I don’t think there is a single moneymaking scam on the internet Duncon hasn’t tried on on unsuspecting reds through the years (and A LOT of it is very well documented here if you read back through the years), but since the blog started he has been forced to clean his act up a lot but still the lies, made up stuff, the begging, the charity scams he has brewing and his support of the rag is sickening.
So when people here see Duncon, they see a thief sneaking in their neighbours backyard, and they cannot understand people don’t take offense or act on it. And that is not hate, just plain common sense and decensy.
August 6, 2009 at 11:14 am
There are no rules here. You can post what you like as long as it’s not spam. But aksimet takes care of 99% of that anyway. You can criticise us and shoot us down in flames if you like. Some have tried before, but most of them have since left koptalk. When they actually take some time to read our stuff, they usually see the light.
sean/shellshock: I’ve sent you an e-mail.
August 6, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Hello Shellshock,
Good luck on your email to Sean. The websites on the top right of this page are all Liverpool websites. Sean has my email if you want to get in touch with me too. I’m sure we know each other.
Good luck.
August 6, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Shame some of the best minds have been shut out, while several numpties can continue to post negative & derogatory crap….
While there are a lot of decent posters left, there seem to be a lot more negative dregs daily…. “I think the scum will be the team to beat”, “Fergie was right to write us off” etc…. Blah, Blah, Blah
What kind of crap is that??????
Why even watch football, if you already have your mind made up about how the season will go…
While I do respect other teams, I honestly feel every time we take the pitch, we will win…. Now ino that that will not happen, but until we lose I back the team 100%….
I also have a problem with player bashing… While I understand it, it gets a little monotonous when the same players are bashed week in and week out, even when they play well… Kuyt, Riera, Lucas, Dossena Babel etc…. have all been bashed incessantly….They are Liverpool players, and while some may not be good enough, they are here and deserve our support…. I mean how are players supposed to perform when they are constantly criticized for every little thing they do wrong? SG is not perfect, but there is never a thread bashing him????
Wow… Sorry, went of on a bit of a rant there….lol
Bottom line is, negativity is thriving on KT, and it sucks!!!!!!!
Shame I have nowhere else to put this stuff…
Hint hint hint…… ;P
August 6, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Hi Sean,
You are a blind faither like me as we used to be called.
Dunk should have banned a few of the posters that constantly tried to bring the mood down but instead he only sought to ban people who questioned him and who obviously saw through his bullshit.
He recognised that these idiots are exactly the type of idiots he needs to converse with in the shoutbox and keep convinced that they are “members of his family”, thereby keeping the charade going and milking them of their annual subs.
I hope a few more of the good guys on there realise this and tell him to go fuck himself.
Cheers mate,
TerryJ
August 6, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Fatman is at the self promotion game again. First he reels out an ” old skool koptalkers ” thread. We see a few names wheeled out and start talking about the good old days and past members where have they gone, etc etc, Lecter even chimes in about how he still talks to Tom Numbers but doesnt tell everyone (A) what site he actually talks to Tom On. and ( B) Tom left koptalk after he came to the conclusion kontalk was a scam and the Lauren appeal was fraudelent. I also find it very odd that not one “old skooler” asking about Tom, would ask where he could catch up with him ? Personally, I view threads like dunks to serve as a reminder as to just how long he has been conning and fleecing his way around Liverpool Football Club.
Then we have the 2nd of his threads where he is trying to promote http://www.koptalkblog.coN. Well thats what he wants you to think, so lets take a little look into that.
A little while back, The Blog, this blog was talked about on every LFC site and members actually sat up and took notice of what type of con was being run and they left koptalk in record numbers. dunk said they were all cliques and rivals, he cyber squatted as he does with many other sites and quickly set up koptalkblog. He done this so unsuspecting or inquisitive fans that would google koptalk and blog would redirect you away from this blog and towards his own self promoting blog leading you directly for a potential fleecing of 30 Quid.
Now heres the kicker, in his blog, the comments are disabled and in his thread, he asks for people to email him about positive comments especially when compared to other sites. yeah you know the ones he accuses of setting up to become rivals (hahaha)
Its all a clever game of self promotion with the agenda of fleecing more reds out of money. Dunk, it doesnt matter how many old school threads you put out there or how many lies you portray in your safe little controlled blog, People from your site in high numbers are visiting and contacting this blog and are becoming aware and suspicious of you. More and more they are seeing the theme of its just about the money.
August 6, 2009 at 5:54 pm
the book has gone quiet for a while. did he forget that this was now going to come out again. such a pleb. He will probably peddle some more shit about it soon
August 6, 2009 at 8:08 pm
forget the book slim shady he is back onto the free sms alerts.
Free sms alerts
” We will soon be announcing details on how to receive our free SMS alerts next season. Please stay tuned for further announcements. You do not need to contact us at this time.”
FREE ? Besides the trips to America, the food on the table, a trip over to the manc game, It begs the question, WHAT ARE THE SUBS BEING USED ON.
August 6, 2009 at 9:44 pm
there is a large community of ex-koptalkers at http://www.est1892.com
August 7, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Revo, the proceeds are ‘ploughed’ back into the site for the kt family, you know the ones that can’t actually speak to each other unless duncan approves what they say first…
August 8, 2009 at 4:52 am
FLMAO
August 8, 2009 at 7:00 am
kraptalk_addict :
The only thing to worry about is if he has enough left over for the Lottery, cos he Promises to share it, should we win.
August 10, 2009 at 6:34 pm
@revo i’m starting to think that’ll be the only way we will ever get rid of him.
August 11, 2009 at 6:18 am
Revo mentioned this earlier, but I’d like to post it here. This is Dunk’s message and he’s asking for feedback. I’ve composed my message (which will remain private for now) but I urge the readers of this blog to email him an honest opinion. I’d be tempted to cc other KT members too, with an honest assessment… here’s the post in full:
————————–
Duncan wrote:
If you have anything positive to say about KopTalk and why you enjoy the site, especially when compared with other LFC sites, please could you drop me a mini-reference for the official KopTalk blog:
http://www.koptalkblog.coN
We used to have a feedback page on the site but when we launched our new look site, I never bothered copying the data over so I want to start again.
You can send a few lines or so to dunk@koptalk.coN – please include your username but state what name you want putting with your review e.g. your username, another name, or anon.
If you do have anything bad to say, also send that so I can see if I can address any complaints you have.
This is really appreciated
Feedback to dunk@koptalk.coN
————————
Terry — try and be dispassionate LMFAO!!! Ha ha ha.
August 11, 2009 at 6:26 am
Sean_Da_Man wrote:
“Hint hint hint……”
You have several folks in your corner Sean. Believe me and when you say you “have no other place to put this stuff” I think you should put it on RAWK, Rattle, TLW, YNWA, Est and everywhere you can. We all read those sites mate — just prefer to post on our own closed site.
I think you should change your name. New branding.
“Spooler”. Or “Clubber”. Or “Trance”. Or “Mel Bourne”*.
Miss ya mate. Keep in touch brother.
* Like “Flo Rida”
August 11, 2009 at 1:39 pm
MOAR SCAMMING
lates scam…
We’re looking at just 4 or 5 months until the site goes live, give or take a month either side.
Let’s hope the wait will be worth it!
I need to raise just over $21,000 to complete the final phase of the first build. I will continue to work hard to raise that money but the begging bowl is out and I make no secret of that!
If you are in a position to make a donation to help this project, please do so using the ‘Donate’ button at the far right. Every cent/penny helps and those who make donations will be remembered.
Once the site is live I will introduce the team to you who developed her.
August 11, 2009 at 4:11 pm
I don’t know what MOAR stands for or where it comes from but perhaps MORON video would be more apt. It would suit both the moron who owns it and those stupid enough to donate to its creation.
August 11, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Ytse Jam wrote:
“You have several folks in your corner Sean. Believe me and when you say you “have no other place to put this stuff” I think you should put it on RAWK, Rattle, TLW, YNWA, Est and everywhere you can. We all read those sites mate — just prefer to post on our own closed site.
I think you should change your name….”
Yea ino I should post at all those, and I have been a little bit, but is just not the same….
I’m not using Sean_Da_Man on those other sites….
That name is reserved….
I alone created this mess, and I can stand up and is take my punishment like a man…..
Ino I screwed up, but I am willing to pay my penance, and do whatever I need to to to make amends….
It may take some time but Sean_Da_Man will rise again, and be better than ever!!!!!!!
Wait and see…..
Holla!!!
Sean_Da_Man
August 11, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Dunk, you can run but you can’t hide.
The clock is ticking and every single person who you have lied to, manipulated and cheated out of money is going to have the chance to know who and what you really are.
When that time comes, you will only have yourself to blame.
August 11, 2009 at 5:25 pm
http://www.moarvideo.tv/video/moarvideocom-completion-news
The state of him…. He seems to have put another few stone on. Just talking is putting him out of breath.
August 11, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I just watched it. He looks very ill actually.
August 11, 2009 at 6:29 pm
The size of him. He must of ate Steve.
I dont know much about websites but 21k is just unbelievable. Who does he pay his taxes to these days?
August 12, 2009 at 12:31 am
Sean – you say IMO Dunk has every right to charge for his site, hell if I could make a living from home off a website…
Pull back a second mate.
You know – I guess some people have the right to make money from a website, but what if…
* The website is accepting money for book publications that are essentially just scam, and are never published.
* The website is lying about access to players, club facilities, and club executives that they clearly don’t have
* The website is posting false information, under a variety of false names and false pretences, in order to further the scam about the website having correct information, in order to profit.
* The website are pretending to support Liverpool Football Club, yet using material from a criminal media source, pornographic, lying publication that openly mocked the innocent victims of a police crowd control disaster.
* The website uses invented child illness stories (complete with access to the children) to extort money from sympathetic website members. Remember those posts from some people wanting to meet Lauren. Maybe to be her “man”, despite the KT website saying see wasn’t even 18 yet? And Dunk was making money from that. Decide for yourself, what it is to exploit children to get ahead? What is a person called who does that? Is it a person who has every right to charge for his site?
Sean – don’t get me wrong – I supported you, even though private messages to some of the guys we know. But you can’t be supporting KT, and validating Dunk Oldham, after all the reasons you know about. Don’t get me wrong, I was there for a long time too. I was there for the community, just like you. But if you think about all the bullshit that was perpetrated on that site, I don’t believe there is any valid reason to support Mr. Oldham’s business. In fact I think there are many valid reasons why it should be closed. Let’s face it, there was a lot there that was just fucking creepy.
August 12, 2009 at 12:41 am
21k is only for the next phase, I am sure he has claimed that the total cost is over 200k. My brother does this sort of stuff, creating websites and he reckons the whole thing would cost no more than 20k. Nothing in this adds up, particularly the time it is taking to set it up. Sounds like Dunk is probably using some college lad and paying him peanuts whilst claiming it is costing a fortune just to con people into making donations. You just never know what to believe with this fucker. No wait, you can’t believe anything, it’s easy really.
August 12, 2009 at 1:30 am
The annual season ticket thread has shown up
Quote :
I still have 2 season tickets at Anfield, just half a dozen or so rows back in a great position by the pitch.
With the club’s new membership scheme, am I right in saying I can sell my allocation for individual games via the official site i.e. legally?
The reason I ask is that I can’t get to the games very often now. Not just because I’m in Spain but because I need to be online for you guys. It’s just simply not possible these days although I’m treating myself to the Scum game
As a result my seats are often empty for every Liverpool home league game
If anyone has an experience of this new scheme, please email me dunk@koptalk.com.
REPLY FROM YORKIERED :
Hey Dunk cant you arrange it for the tickets to go to one or should i say two of us?
It would be a great way to get to the game for some of us who struggle getting tickets?
DUNKS REPLY : I would if I could but I’m prohibited from doing so. The tickets can only be used by the ticket holder(s) which is why I want to see if I can sell some games back to the club legally.
There’s no way I would risk losing them as I want to start going to every game again like I used to but because I need to be online on match days, it’s proving difficult at the present time.
The members of koptalk pay for those season tickets yet he still wont put them up on the site for members to use. you see, anyone can use somebodys season ticket as long as that ticket is not being touted for over the odds. But many of us remember the west ham cup final and how dunk touted his pair of final tickets for 1600 euros to wezo. A liverpool forum owner touting his tickets for profit says everything about you dunk, it validates why you are despised
Dunk your not thinking of laundering a koptalk business expense into your own account are you ? tut tut tut.
you want to start going the game again do you ? Move back to england and do it. stop making excuses,
tell the truth big fella, your a once a year (if that) and have always been day tripper that sneaks in and out if you do indeed attend. you always pass yourself off as a seasoned match goer, that may be the case at newcastle but its not with Liverpool. you have no interaction whatsoever with any forum members, very suspect very suspect indeed.
Every other forum around the net has meet ups for a bevvie before and after the game and encourages its members to participate. why do you ask your members to email you privately about meeting somewhere ?
Oh and your seats have often gone empty have they ? what type of fucking Red are you ?
As ive stated on numerous occasions, the more you open your mouth the bigger dickhead you sound.
August 12, 2009 at 6:15 am
Having gone to the Spurs match last season and using someone elses season ticket, I can only say he is Full of shit… No one checks to see if the person holding the card is the person in the photo on the card…. The card is scanned and you walk in, no probs what so ever… He can send it to whom ever, let them use it totally for free…. But he is obviously trying to make money off of each game…..
Ass….
Props to RKM!!!!!
Sean
August 12, 2009 at 7:48 am
The main problem is that he doesn’t have any season tickets anymore. That’s why he can’t share them with the koptalk members. He also claimed to be a share holder, so he should have some priority rights for even more tickets. Why aren’t these made available to his members either? And this is a man who calls the koptalk members his family? On second thought, knowing how his relationship with his family is, that’s maybe how he thinks a family should be?
August 12, 2009 at 7:53 am
You are right Sean. These tickets could be used by anyone. In fact, season tickets are touted all over the place. Also members on other sites are sharing their tickets, priority rights, fan cards, anything to help each other get to a match. Only on koptalk you won’t see that. Members meet up’s before the match happens everywhere except on koptalk. What are they really paying for? The only thing I can see is exclusive to koptalk is Dunks lies and news from the s*n. Not worth much, are they?
August 12, 2009 at 8:20 am
What happened to the shout box?
Dunk says it will return when he upgrades the forums. But why did he have to take it down days ( or weeks or months) before the upgrade? Maybe the real truth can be found in this post by Charlie, made just after the shout box was taken down:
#549384 – August 01, 2009 16:58 Shout box!
Charlie
KopTalk VIP
Registered: September 03, 2000
Posts: 2440
Loc: France
What’s happened to it?
It suddenly disappeared a few minutes ago.
I was going to have a natter with McDaft.
I think Dunk was afraid to let McDaft (aka Ytse Jam) have a chat with Charlie, who seem to be one of the more loyal koptalk members these days. Maybe he was afraid that Charlie would have been told a truth or two?
August 12, 2009 at 8:37 am
Penman: Just noted your comment was caught by aksimet. I’ve validiated it now.
August 12, 2009 at 10:51 am
Penman96 said “Sean – don’t get me wrong – I supported you, even though private messages to some of the guys we know. But you can’t be supporting KT, and validating Dunk Oldham, after all the reasons you know about. Don’t get me wrong, I was there for a long time too. I was there for the community, just like you. But if you think about all the bullshit that was perpetrated on that site, I don’t believe there is any valid reason to support Mr. Oldham’s business. In fact I think there are many valid reasons why it should be closed. Let’s face it, there was a lot there that was just fucking creepy.”
Your right, during my last days I was unable to post. Having to just sit there and see the bullshit that is posted and how it is posted is truly amazing. When I said that Dunk had a right to run a websit I was not defending him, and I meant a legit site. He is obviously doing people wrong and using LFC just to line his pockets. The idea of a closed private community though is something I would pay for if it was legit. Which is why I was there… I have since left, been banned whatever and have clearly seen the light…. The well will run dry for Dunk eventually….
Oh, we will win on Sunday 2-1….
Holla
Sean_Da_Man
August 13, 2009 at 8:51 am
holy shit, where to start on this. So, he continually claims to have more than enough money to complete his “hobby” yet he now has the begging bowl out. he claims costs of $1300 a month yet 5 months more of “first phase” development is going to cost $21,000. dunk, simple math makes that $6500 so where have these extra costs come from? You thick fuck dunk, you forgot the first rule of lying yet again – Remember what you have previously said!!
Does not one person question why you are asking for money for your “hobby” when you claim to be buying brand new houses for cash, brand new mercs and have lots of successful business interests. jesus.
The people on your moan video site must be very very dumb as this type of thing was predicted a long time ago
On to the koptalk tickets thing. my god what a pathetic excuse that was. Not going so he can be there for his online people. FUCK OFF. Asking how he can sell the tickets, but then claiming he simply cannot give them to his koptalk “family”. Yes thats right dunk, you are indeed a cunt and now everyone can see you for what you are. You claim to bend over backwards for koptalkers yet when handed an opportunity to provide some free tickets to those that cant get them, you make up the most ludicrous bullshit.
So, what we have now is a situation where dunk is obviously skint. With no chance of creating a fake charity scam, he simply has the begging bowl out for the most expensive website in the history of mankind.
Moarvideo people – just ask yourselves why dunk claims to have such a lavish life yet now begs for money, the con has been coming!
koptalkers – the ticket thing should rile any “die hard” fan. leaving empty seats at our club and then trying to sell them on instead of helping fellow reds (somehing dunk claims to do whenever he can). he is out for what he can get, nothing more
August 14, 2009 at 2:21 am
The natives are restless and have questioned the validity of informer and wallet.
DUNKS EXPLANATION
These posts are silly. Some people know who the Informer is as it was given away on here a couple of years ago.
I check everyone on this site. When someone posts claiming to be somewhere, I check their IP address to see if they are telling the truth for example. I have removed 2 members recently for deliberately misleading people e.g. “I’m posting this from Tom Hicks’ office in Dallas” only for the IP address to say Luton… of course mistakes can happen but I also make further checks to be 100% sure.
Both The Informer and Wallet have different addresses and different payment details. Ok it could be the same person but it sounds very unlikely and pointless to me.
When The Informer first joined he used his real details publicly I believe and these were changed.
Some conspiracy theorists believe both users and others are me. Jesus, I’m everyone if you believe these muppets but seriously, I couldn’t be arsed. And besides, I’m more clever. I’d create a couple of dozen names to give the impression of more contributors.
To conclude, both users have different postal addresses, different payment methods, different email addresses and they post from different locations (IP addresses). If for one moment I thought they were on the take they’d be binned.
We really need to stop this bashing and silly posts. I seriously have to question why people do it.
Dunk Dunk Dunk,
People are questioning it because they have sussed you out. Why dont you just come out and admit that wallet and informer are fabrications of your so called contacts and that your posting in good faith? start telling the truth, I would call you pinocchio but after seeing you in that round up thread your more like nellie the bleedin elephant.
August 14, 2009 at 6:08 am
Oh *SNAP* Dunk gave away the house with this ill thought out sentence, “…I’m more clever. I’d create a couple of dozen names to give the impression of more contributors.”
Just look at the members and then look at the activity. Dunk has been fooling people all along in all of his websites with ’sock’ accounts. ROFL at Dunk for being thick headed retard.
August 14, 2009 at 9:24 am
“When The Informer first joined he used his real details publicly I believe and these were changed”
Is it believable that a bloke who constantly gets inside information would pay to join KT just so he can post the information for the benefit of people he never interacts with? What does he get out of it?
“I’m more clever. I’d create a couple of dozen names to give the impression of more contributors”
I am sure you are an expert at dreaming up ways to rip off gullible people but as you get more desperate your lies and deceit are catching up with you. You really are a sad sad man.
If Naveed, Frank or Dave are reading this blog, I have a message for you. You three are not of the same ilk as the Dunk lovers who hang out in the shoutbox and say “good afternoon Dunk” and other such crap every day. You are clued up die hard reds fans, why on earth do you put up with this shit? Do something about it, take him on and then get the fuck out of there. You will feel better for it in the end.
August 14, 2009 at 11:42 am
Dunk you read the blog, we all know that by now.
Where is the book? It was supposed to be coming out again, but alas, its all gone quiet. Not written anything yet? thought as much. We dont expect to EVER come out so why not just admit it was a pipe dream.
Going back to his reason for not going to matches – he needs to be there for his koptalk “family”. Why then, did he claim to have hotels booked up for half of last season so that he could attend games and get pictures, for his “family”? As it transpires, the hotel thing was another lie and he had no intention of setting foot in Anfield, but we have another lie that contradicts a previous lie. Keep up dunk, i know its hard and you are cleverererer than most, but try using a bit of truth as at worst, it will make lying a whole lot easier.
Come on remaining koptalkers, just ask him why he claimed to book these hotels last year without ever going. Ask him where he is up to with the book? Ask him why steve not only stopped working for him, but closed his koptalk account (surely education reasons would still allow him to contribute??) Ask him why “your” money is going towards him funding his video site (although he is doing his best to con the moan video people out of money aswell). Ask him any of these and im pretty sure it will result in you banning yourself, isnt that right dunk
August 14, 2009 at 6:37 pm
A little bird tells me Steve has been known to lurk here once or twice.
I’d like to hear his side of the story.
August 14, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I think everyone** wants to hear what Steve has to say, but he may have signed an agreement to say nothing negative in return for $$$.
**everyone including those on here, all the ex-KT-ers and all the current KT-ers. In fact, the only one who would not want to hear it is probably Dunk himself!
August 14, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Bit like Jordi Chandler??????
August 14, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Steve, or anyone else, can always email us in confidence if they’ve got something to share.
August 15, 2009 at 11:49 am
So, Dunk wants pro Koptalk comments to big up his “private site” ???? That seems odd considering the privacy aspect…
Why does he even need the comments, he should just use the numbers if they are so impressive to big up the place… He should not even ask for comments, he should just have people go to the blog, and post them themselves… Of course if he did this, then there would obviously be some negative ones, which is the whole reason why he wants to post them, to keep out the negativity….. Him trying to control every aspect of KT is really laughable, especially since it puts out the illusion of perfect harmony, which is far from the truth…. He should not be afraid of negativity, as no place is perfect, but if his numbers are so impressive, then there would be a lot more positive than negative, when left to the people to comment….. Obviously he is afraid of the truth coming out if left uncontrolled, hence the need to post the comments himself…
Trying to hide from the truth, is a long hard road Dunk…..
August 15, 2009 at 2:11 pm
what confuses me is why diesn’t he just invent the positive comments himself under pseudonyms like i’m sure he has before.
but then again, maybe there are too few people left on koptalk for him to get away with that.
August 15, 2009 at 3:00 pm
LOL… your a funny dude…..
August 15, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Who says he doesn’t? He recently more or less admitted that he creates profiles with which he posts to make his site seem busier. Nothing Dunk does is honest. He may as well make up these feed backs.
August 15, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Steve will wake up every morning (next to Katie C if one rumour is to be believed) and realise how many years he spent under the conman’s spell, realising just how much he did for him for so little in return.
It’s probably a bit like a wife realising her husband was a multiple bigamist, starting to finally see what had been staring her in the face for years.
He’ll realise that it was probably true what Dunk’s ex-wife Maria always said. Random dips into this site will remind him of the lies Dunk told. Of the times Dunk posted pretending to be Steve.
Remember when he pretended to be in the States? He “flew” there, spent time there, then forgot to “fly” back.
Steve’s seen through him, Katie Couzins has seen through him. Katrina Cushnahan saw through him.
The Forsyth’s have seen through him, maybe now they realise how much money Dunk raised in their daughter’s name, how it paid for his luxury lifestyle a bit longer. The FA Cup ticket touting was done in her name, but she never saw a fraction of the cash Dunk raised for her.
His ex-wife has seen through him. No doubt the divorce settlement included him getting custody of the kids during the holidays. As soon as Charlotte was old enough to make up her own mind, she fucked her Dad off and stayed at home.
And she’s hanging around not only with her boyfriend but some of those people who’ve seen through Dunk in recent times.
Young Robbie has no choice. He’s still too young to see what his Dad’s doing, still young enough to trust his dad without question. But if he’s even slightly less thick than his dad he’ll spot the problems soon enough, and a court case could see his dad’s custody agreement overturned. If Robbie doesn’t want to go, he doesn’t have to go.
In fact Robbie would probably prefer to be with his mum and his new dad, he probably feels unbelievably homesick stuck in Spain where he spends most of his time in the company of people pissed out of their heads. Dunk keeps fucking him off for his latest brass, he only wants Robbie there so he can take a few pictures to show off to his ‘friends’ on his websites, and also to spite his ex-wife a little bit more.
Dunk’s mam had a certain amount of closeness to Steve, Dunk one claimed Steve was his brother, and even if he’s not Steve might be seen as a son by Jeanette. If she’s not the rough piece of work she looks then she’s going to be missing Steve, and Steve will maybe the first person to tell her the truth about Dunk that she actually listens to.
Previously Jeanette has stuck by Dunk through thick and very thick indeed. Maybe she was forced to choose when Steve left – perhaps that’s why Dunk taunted Steve with “blood is thicker than water” comments.
Jeanette might be thick, but if she’s not, if she’s got a tiny amount of sense, she’ll finally see through Dunk and cut him off her apron strings. In fact if she cut Dunk out of her life she’d probably get to see more of her grandkids than she does now.
Dunk’s always going to bounce back from a setback, but what he doesn’t realise is that he’s not bouncing back as high any more. Each time he bounces back he’s one bounce away from never bouncing again.
But he’ll not bounce far when mummy stops subsidising him.
August 15, 2009 at 7:48 pm
@Sheetbag Katie Couzins was Kate Oldham. You’ll need to update your “who’s who” index.
August 16, 2009 at 12:44 am
She was Katie Couzins before she met Dunk, he pretended they were married didn’t he?
I don’t think anyone can keep pace with the lies any more.
August 16, 2009 at 1:36 am
She was Kate Oldham. She colored her hair and Dunk gave her the factious last name of Couzins. They were never “pretend” married or real, for that matter.
Dunk provided Kate Oldham a web site which is not defunked as of June 30 2009.
Dunk gave her a partying gift in a twitter. He wrote about leaving him with the cats and dogs. Not being able to take care of her kid.
That’s Dunk for yah.
August 16, 2009 at 4:15 am
FROM THE SAME THREAD THAT QUESTIONS WALLET
” Things change in football and I think that’s been fairly obvious with our summer activity.
I think you should cut the guy some slack or we will lose another good member because a few people spoil it for others.
I think it’s good to pass opinions sensibly but when they sound like someone is been called a liar, I think it’s wrong. I will bin those who I don’t trust.”
So if the paying customer disagrees or doesnt believe wallet or informer exist, your gonna bin him cos he is not trustworthy ? Dunk you are priceless man and I love it when you post. It shows everyone what a thick ignorant pig of a man you are and validates our opinion of your tyranny.
Like its already been said, you are losing more face with your members on a daily basis. frank, naveed, stealth, butch will all be the next wave to leave your dump. Dave69 and Dave 100 should also follow suit and leave the sham.
Lecter you are also being called out, you more than most, except maybe bubonic know how long this sham has existed and it time to cut the chord, stop selling the lie fellas.
You are all intellegent lads and I know you can see that he has been found out for many many of his discrepencies. look who has left and what is left behind. It took steve all these years to figure it out and if thats not alarm bells, then theres nothing left to say to you.
August 16, 2009 at 10:48 am
what happened with Steve then? Never read anything on here about him leaving
August 16, 2009 at 12:45 pm
There’s a few comments about that in this post and the previous one.
August 16, 2009 at 12:50 pm
The shout box reapperared today, even though there’s been no upgrade of the forus. So is the upgrade delayed then? Or was Dunk just afraid someone would use the shout box to tell his memberswhat a scam koptalk is? I think it’s not a coincidencet that all three of Ytse Jams account was deleted at the same time. Or did he ban himself? I guess Dunk will pay back the remainder of the subscriptions. One of the accounts was opened in march so there should be more than half a year worth of subs left. Another was opend in february, so there should also be a refund of about half the sub.
August 16, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Ah… That explains it….
August 16, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Yeah — thanks Sean.
LOL
One of the accounts was my mate McDaft’s account and he was still using it. He’s no longer a fan of Dunk! Cat’s account (Witch-Hazel) hasn’t worked since Cat left in May. So, all three were closed which means:
Dunk — you owe me about a year’s worth of subs — please refund my paypal account. I am asking this on the public forum so everyone knows.
August 16, 2009 at 3:24 pm
August 16, 2009 at 4:59 pm
why would you seek a partial payment ? he should be reported to paypal and the full amount should be returned. whats his argument, ytse found a new site to hang out, I dont trust him so I banned him ? Trust me, the last thing he wants is a load of disputes with paypal. you need to empower yourselves and start the paper trail with paypal
August 16, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Made special appearance in Dunk’s live show today. He seems distracted and tense. It could be all the time he’s taking to delete comments is stressing him.
August 16, 2009 at 7:20 pm
No SMS today.
[liverpoolfan] What’s the story with SMS? Submitted a ticket but am heading out soon. Would be nice to get the alerts etc.
[Dunk] no SMS alerts yet, working on them during the match
[Dunk] go to add everyone
August 16, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Dunk was live using messaging at of his web sites today. But he said SMS messages aren’t working.
That means Dunk didn’t care enough about his current website members and trying to recruit new ones.
Obvious that Dunk gives priority to recruitment over serving current members at his website.
That’s a freak’in riot.
August 17, 2009 at 12:19 pm
@Revo – exactly what I’ve been saying. If people start complaining to Paypal and claiming chargebacks his trustworthiness will dwindle to the point where they refuse to let him use the service.
August 17, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Hello Dunk,
I thought I’d take the opportunity to say my piece so you can hear it from me. You’ve asked for feedback, both positive and negative — here it is. It’s getting emailed to you and will appear on a blog. I hope you appreciate that.
And, before I go on, both JD and RichT wanted my email address and I asked you to forward that to them. You didn’t. It’s wsrussell at gmail dot com. They can find me there.
Thanks for kicking me out on Sunday. Sean wanted to see what was being posted and I gave him permission to use my account — but apparently that’s against your rules. And you kicked out McDaft (my mate) and Cat too (though that was months ago, because he hasn’t had access since May), even though NO account had permission to post. You charged us for that.
I was on KT for probably 8 plus years and I’ve enjoyed the site probably more than 50% of the time. There are posters that I truly like, but they became fewer and fewer and the WUMs, stirrers and idiot-numbers kept increasing to a level where it was unsustainable. I think most people know that.
I worry about your health, if I’m honest. The latest video you posted was worrisome. You need to sort that out. I’ve never been a so-called hater (and don’t appreciate the inference in several of your posts on the various threads over the past 4 months), never really understood it, but I do read everything I can and a lot of the so-called “haterz” have some well-founded gripes. You will, no doubt, continue to fight them And as I said, this is not my opinion only, but others seem to have some serious issues that you’ve never addressed and explained. We’re all ears. It’s all about being honest and the guys that have left (certainly over a thousand) have all claimed that you are untruthful. You’ve never addressed their claims. Ever.
Which brings me to my honest assessment of KT. You’ve let it slide Duncan. Steve was a great worker for you, but he’s now gone (I’ve no idea of the real reason but I, like, everyone else have my suspicions) but for too long other sites were getting stronger and you rested on your laurels**. I’ve seen it pick up over the summer — that’s probably because of the new season and also because you read the writing on the wall. However, as long as I’ve been on KT, I’ve been on RAWK, YNWA, and .tv. I also joined Est during its nascence. With only 200 on the site I post on today, the traffic is probably 50 times what you get on your site. My mate logged in as McDaft a few days ago we compared notes and did a rough business-level “market-size” estimate**** — your site has picked up Dunk, but it’s a pale imitation of what KT used to be like and it’s poor compared to site I’m on now and even compared to Est, RAWK and Rattle or most of the other Liverpool supporters websites. You may have a large number of posters, but the traffic is extremely poor compared to others and the quality even poorer (with the exception of probably two dozen posters who remain my friends and always will be). I will miss my mates. But they know I’m elsewhere now and know how to find me if they’re clever.
I will miss my mates, especially the older posters like BillyLiddle, Charlie, Lathom and others like Frank, Nav, Stealth, Lec, the Daves, Rob, Maddog, Butch, Drog and many others…
I wish you would just tell people you make a living from Koptalk! If you actually stated it up front and told people you ran the site as a living and that you did your best to get inside info and unique interviews etc, I’d suggest a portion of the so-called “KT-haterz” would go away. Mind you, most wouldn’t, because you’re a conman.
There again, I truly believe you’re an impersonator on other accounts. That’s not just a con, it’s fraudulent and if true it’s screwing with unsuspecting LFC fans around the world — thousands of them! That’s not what YNWA means. That’s abuse Duncan and while I know several existing KT-ers already know it’s a big con and just go with it because of their mates, there’s are thousands (both present, in the past and potentially in the future) who are clueless. That’s just not fair and they need to be told the truth.
The final straw for me was when you kicked Chewie out. Chris and I are good mates and I was miffed you did that even though he and you didn’t see eye to eye. If you ever want to make amends with him, you can find him on “The Liverpool Way”. But you won’t.
Stop the con Dunk. Just stop it. That’s all I ask — as one Liverpool fan to another.
Cheers,
Bill Russell
aka Ytse Jam, Bill, Miamired.
P.S. One last thing Duncan: Revo specifically told me this: “You can also tell him Id give him an invite to ST to defend himself to his ex members, seeing as he wont put up an arena to do so.” I’d honestly like you to do that, because I think it would be in your best interests if you’re willing to try and salvage come credibility here.
** No PMs — fans not being able to talk to each other, heavy modding and deleting of threads in public forums (on behalf of the majority of posters — give us a bit of credit), inability to question things, WUMs, massive negativity and most importantly, a lack of chemistry amongst the members — we’re all fans. We should be able to talk to one anohter without your permission. It’s ridiculous, especially when you consider we pay you for the luxury of posting!
**** Based on traffic for three days, you were approximately 100 times less active than our current site. And I can confirm that KT gets a LOT of sh*te posted — and I think most KT-ers would agree with that.
August 17, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Good assessment of where KT is currently at Bill.
I can’t see Dunk taking up the offer of visiting ST to defend himself. He has nothing to lose, but then again he has nothing to gain financially and therefore it won’t be of interest to him.
August 17, 2009 at 9:55 pm
The comments list is getting long so I made a new post of your feedback Bill.
August 21, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Listen up Dunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maz9ddxEQnM&feature=related
Tick tock, tick tock . . . . . . . . . .
August 21, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Haha. That, Dunk, is a message that should worry you.