Before I go onto the subject of the Koptalk charity collection, a quick look at how good Koptalk has got.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is the Koptalk shoutbox…
[Gazami69] i spy with my little eye something beginning with….
[Katie] …….
[Gazami69] R…
[Dunk] R? ffs! give in!
[Dunk] 25 mins i’ve been looking for a R
[Katie] awww Dunk you given up yet?
[Dunk] yeh
[Katie] awwww
[Gazami69] Ravenous, thats what i am now anyway. The word was Robin, i saw one earlier.
[Gazami69] Dont think ‘i spy’ worked did it?
[Katie] haha no
[John_Gibson] hey everyone. Dunk, you around?
[ST3] Hi John
[John_Gibson] hows it goin, mate?
[drunkagain] Ste, I still seem to be 11 points short on ‘You’re The Boss’. Can you check it for me. I’ve emailed you a couple of times. Cheers.
[ST3] mwahaahaha ur going down
[ST3] Im good John, U ?
[ST3] ill have a look drunk
[John_Gibson] hehe
[John_Gibson] good mate. 6 days until final exams, 15 days until my trip to Anfield. F*in pumped!
[drunkagain] Cheers Ste
[ST3] \:D
[Katie] Hello Koptalk!
[jmp7300] Hey……..all
[Tullimore] Steve are you there mate
[ST3] Hi Tulli
[EDC] Yo!
[ST3] yo
Brilliant isn’t it? I spy with my little eye something beginning with “T”. Clue – it’s weedy and tumbles.
Koptalk owner Dunk’s also decided tonight to make his first purchases with the money he’s collected for Alder Hey.
He’s not been listening to us (even though he reads this site daily). I’ve got a copy of what he’s claimed to have spent. What he’s not listened to, or has been too thick to realise, is that we are scrutinising this charity collection attempt VERY carefully.
Things that Dunk can’t do and get away with in relation to this Alder Hey appeal…
1) Turn vouchers into cash.
2) Hide money collected by making those who posted pledges disappear from the final totals.
3) Delete threads (even if they have been superceded by other threads)
4) Take the money and treat himself (like he did with Lauren).
5) Get any publicity other than what we give him on here (he says he wants none).
6) Say one thing then do another without first explaining why.
If he can stick to those, and any other minimum acceptable standards we’ve forgotten to mention, he’ll get a nice post on here showing him for actually doing his first ever good deed that didn’t have any hidden motive.
It’s called transparency. It’s about being open, being honest.
It’s quite an alien concept to a long-time conman like Oldham, but this is his chance to show the first signs of turning over a new leaf. It doesn’t get him off the hook for his past misdemeanours though, but if he’s now become as decent as he’s trying to pretend he is then he’ll have no trouble putting those things right. He owes a lot of explanations to a lot of people about Lauren.
So how does he perform against the six points above?
Let’s look at what he’s done so far.
#50248 – 11/12/06 03:57 PM
TOTAL ACTUALLY RECEIVED: £1362.27 – UPDATED: 13th 17:53
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com
****Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 13475 Received by vouchers to date: £160.00Received by PayPal to date: £1202.27
TOTAL RECEIVED TO DATE: £1362.27
Last updated 13th Dec 17:53
Edited by Katie ( minutes seconds ago)
That figure of £160 in vouchers is still short of the £10 that he’s still mysteriously not recieved. His own £10 voucher pledge. Odd really, considering that the rest all got through, ones that non-conmen sent…
#42438 – 01/12/06 12:31 PM
Alder Hey Christmas Appeal – List Of Donations By Vouchers
KOPTALK.COM KOPTALK.COM Administrator
Team Member
***Registered: 28/07/03
Posts: 26467PLEASE ENSURE YOU HAVE A RECEIPT OR SERIAL NUMBER FOR THE VOUCHERS INCASE THERE ARE ANY PROBLEMS
If you wish to contribute by way of voucher (Argos online), simply follow this link:
http://www.voucherexpress.co.uk/verse/argos/
This idea was put to us yesterday on the Alder Hey appeal thread.
You will be asked to include a personal message. These messages will be given to Alder Hey staff and patients.
You can use VISA, MASTERCARD, DELTA, AMERICAN EXPRESS, SWITCH ETC.
The address to send these to should be:
Mr Duncan Oldham
PO Box 556
WALLSEND
NE28 7WZOnce you have completed your order, please state the amount on this thread. When received, we will state so on this thread.
A decision will be made by the community collectively with regards what specific goods we purchase.
It is important to note that all donations received and goods purchased will be verified by members from the community who will attend the presentation before Christmas at Alder Hey.
ANYONE who donates is welcome to attend the presentation which will simply be a case of you and us popping along with the goodies for the kids and signing things over.
Any excess of vouchers left over will be handed over to Alder Hey and signed for in the presence of whichever members pop along with us.
VOUCHER DONATORS – MEMBER NAME AND RECEIVED AMOUNT
Dunk £10 Argos – ORDERED BUT NOT YET RECEIVED
Pwillis £10 Argos – £10 RECEIVED
Lagos_Red £50 Argos – £50 RECEIVED
Gordy Boy £10 Argos – £10 RECEIVED
Dan W £10 Argos – £10 RECEIVED
TommySmith £10 Argos – £10 RECEIVED
stevonb £20 Argos – £20 RECEIVED
redallover1 £20 Argos – £20 RECEIVED
Kings66 £30 Argos – £30 RECEIVEDTOTAL VOUCHERS RECEIVED: £160.00
Edited by Katie (10/12/06 09:06 PM)
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Reading that thread back again and straight away he’s done himself out of getting all six points. He says in this thread, “A decision will be made by the community collectively with regards what specific goods we purchase.” Where’s the discussion on that then Dunk? What choice did the community get in all this? You’ve failed on point six, but we’d like to hear an explanation anyway. We might let you off.
So back to the amounts collected. Vouchers: £160.00. PayPal: £1202.27. Total: £1362.27.
Those £160 of vouchers are the only vouchers we want to see on any receipts. The rest should be cash, otherwise it’s a big failure of point 1. Then again, I’ve a feeling that’s already happened…
#51493 – minutes seconds ago
GOOD
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com
****
Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 13475List of items purchased by KopTalk for Alder Hey Children’s Hospital (Christmas appeal). Amounts to be deducted from collective donation fund.
Note that the older kids at Alder Hey often get forgotten hence our decision to purchase with them in mind first.
* 32 inch brand new HD Ready LCD TV @ £499.99 from Argos
* Bush Universal LCD Stand @ £99.99 less £30.00 discount = £69.99
ARGOS ORDER TOTAL: £569.98
* Xbox 360 Console (Includes: Xbox 360, 20GB hard drive, wireless controller, ethernet cable, HD AV cable and headset) + FIFA 2007 from Amazon
* Xbox 360 play & charge kit x 2 from Amazon
Additional Xbox 360 wireless controller from Amazon
AMAZON BREAKDOWN:
Items: £316.56
Postage & Packing: £7.65
Promotion Applied (Discount): -£11.06Total before VAT: £313.15
VAT: £54.81AMAZON ORDER TOTAL: £367.96
* Amped, Table Tennis, Lara Croft, Football Manager 2006 (+ free console face plate), Tony Hawks Project 8, Project Gotham Racing 3 from Gameplay
GAMEPLAY ORDER TOTAL: £152.94
TOTAL COMBINED SPENT SO FAR FROM FUND: £1090.88
*** Spending not concluded yet ***
Please note that all delivery costs to Alder Hey, travelling costs etc will be paid myself. Not 1 penny from the amounts received will be deducted for any kind of expenses ensuring that the total fund amount is donated to Alder Hey who are providing receipts for ALL goods donated. All receipts for the goods purchased will be scanned and made available online for the donators to see but they will be handed over to Alder Hey for guarantee purposes.
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I’m not sure he can spend Argos vouchers online, and I’m assuming that’s how he’s ordered this TV.
I’m not sure he can spend Gameplay vouchers online, and I’m assuming that’s how he’s ordered those games.
I know he’s ordered the Amazon stuff online, and I know he can use his Amazon vouchers online.
He’s not allowed to use vouchers to purchase anything, otherwise it’s a clear sign that his motivation for this collection was to turn vouchers into cash.
He says he’ll be scanning the receipts – well in the case of the online orders I expect to also see a screen print for every page. It’s very easy to do with Amazon, and should show clearly that he’s not part-paid with gift vouchers.
#51498 – minute seconds ago
Alder Hey Appeal Closing Sunday
Dunk Dunk Administrator
KopTalk.com
****
Registered: 20/08/04
Posts: 13474
Please note that we need to have all donations in by Sunday. If you would like to donate after Sunday we will publish on site the exact postal address for Alder Hey including the details of our contact there who has been working with us.We are now purchasing the goodies for the kids as you will see from the appropriate thread on the site which will be updated over the next few days with new things.
Could those who haven’t chipped in yet but have pledged to, please contact steve@koptalk.com as soon as possible. It’s not a problem if you can no longer support Alder Hey at this time but at least we know what’s what if you can keep us updated.
Alder Hey are overjoyed at the support shown by the members here. Considering only our members were invited to contribute, we raised a lot of money in a very short time. You should be very proud of yourselves.
What happens next?
* Donation cut off point Sunday evening. Details will be published on site explaining how to contribute direct to Alder Hey after Sunday as there should never be a cut off point in reality. But KopTalk won’t accept any more donations as from Sunday evening as we need to prepare all the paperwork etc
* Last minute purchases will be made by us next week, additional cash (change) handed to Alder Hey at agreed presentation date (KopTalk has stated that we do not want any publicity that Alder Hey can offer)
* Receipts obtained from Alder Hey along with confirmation letter for donators (will be published on site)
* Goods handed to Alder Hey along with associated paperwork, guarantees etc.
Again, Dunk has reminded me of how he’s said one thing then done another. He’s already posted the “exact postal address” for Alder Hey for direct donations, back when he said he’d make this forum open to non-members. It’s still not open to non-members. He’s had enough reminders on that now for it to no longer be a mistake. It’s an example of going back on his worthless word.
He’s still not explained what happened the £26 donated by “Marcel”. The amount matched an insider auto-renewal subscription amount, and disappeared off the later lists of who’d donated or had pledged but not yet sent their money. (I wonder how many of those who’d not yet donated their promised pledge have actually been locked out by the panicking Oldham between making the pledge and preparing to donate the money).
Still, as things stand, he hasn’t done too much wrong on this particular appeal. Compared to the thousands he stole from his disabled cousin, this is going fairly honestly. For now.
Let’s go over those six points again. He’s not allowed to do any of these if he wants to avoid further accusations of being a conman.
1) Turn vouchers into cash.
As long as he can provide screen dumps and receipts that show CASH rather than VOUCHERS then he’s ok on this one. If not then it would suggest he’s been fiddling things yet again. (He also needs to prove that Alder Hey got all of those goods). I also expect all receipts and screen dumps to show reference numbers that can be used to verify the order with the companies who those goods were supposedly purchased from. I don’t trust Duncan Oldham, so I need to be sure he’s not got even a millimeter to wriggle into.
2) Hide money collected by making those who posted pledges disappear from the final totals.
So far, although I’ve only had a brief look, he’s only made one pledge disappear. Marcel’s £26 pledge.
3) Delete threads (even if they have been superceded by other threads)
Too late. He’s done this, with the thread that had the original paypal pledges v received on. However it’s in his power to bring the thread back, assuming he’s put it into the trash can or equivalent rather than deleting it.
4) Take the money and treat himself (like he did with Lauren).
Apart from the £26, so far so good. We’re watching though. If you are trying to con your members, we’ll catch you out. We’ve done it so many times before.
5) Get any publicity other than what we give him on here (he says he wants none).
So far so good again. Alder Hey will respect his wishes for no publicity if he’s asked for that, so this won’t be a problem to fulfil.
6) Say one thing then do another without first explaining why.
Already covered to some extent above. He’s not happy that we’re watching him so closely, but he knows we are. Yet he still changes his mind on things. WHY IS THE FORUM STILL NOT OPEN TO NON-MEMBERS?
That’s all for now on this, here’s hoping that Duncan Oldham can address the minor problems listed above.
And here’s also hoping that he’ll finally explain his theft from his disabled cousin. Alder Hey have been warned about that and are no doubt also scrutinising it all.


























