SUN-lover moons critics

by Rupert Insider

Duncan Oldham can’t keep his snout out of the trough. He’s snorting the SUN cash again today, 14th November 2006.

On 10th November we exposed that his one-man site had been running SUN ads for at least 14 days.

He waited 24 hours to gauge reaction to our article. When he was condemned on more than ten other sites he published his response which we reproduced in full even though he bans all mention of the blog on his site, terrified that his few remaining users might read it.

These are some excerpts from his statement. Click to read the full statement :

“Once ads are displaying we can disable them.……….We would never knowingly advertise The Sun and if you think we would, you’ve been suckered in by those connected to other LFC websites

Using Hillsborough and the innocent lives of 96 Liverpool fans to try and score brownie points through internet rivalry is disgraceful. Shame on those responsible”

So what’s his excuse now? That’s he’s a SUN junkie who can’t control himself? Or that, after careful consideration, he thinks there’s more money in being a pariah site than being one of the LFC family of sites?

Its time for all supporter sites to join a boycott of Koptalk.

Here’s one of the SUN advertisement he’s running today. Click on image to see it in full size as seen on Koptalk. And remember “Dunk knows best”.

For overseas LFC fans – free air travel, hotel and match tickets – honest!

by Rupert Insider

Duncan Oldham, the one-man Koptalk website, has developed some nasty little cons to exploit LFC and its supporters. But none so brazen as his most recent.

Through the years he has discovered that those living abroad make the easiest targets. They rely on the net to get close to their beloved club. Some of them do not speak English so well. They may not be familiar with British geography. All of them are trusting. It never occurs to them that a so-called LFC supporters site would lie to them even if it did seem to be good to be truue.

This is what he promised international members, FREE of charge:

• fly some of them to Liverpool:

• accommodate them in Koptalk hotel with a Kop-theme bar:
• host them at another Koptalk property overlooking the training grounds at Melwood from where to meet players and staff:
  
• introduce them to supporters at the Anfield pubs
• provide them with tickets to a match.

AND ALL THIS FOR AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP FEE OF ONLY ₤30

This would be an impressive offer even if you were a lad in Thailand who had to work 4 x 56-hour weeks to make ₤30, or an office worker in India who would need two weeks or more hard work to save that amount, or a worker in central America who would need 10-15 days to make the money.

Since Oldham never publishes his accounts we can only guess from his lists of posters online how many were impressed enough to cough up the money – from Thailand, Indian, Mauritius, South Africa, Malta, North America and Australasia – not to mention Scandinavia and Iceland.

Even if none of them expected to benefit from the offer they must have been impressed by Oldham’s warm-hearted generosity to foreigners.  And the very fact that his site could be so lavish seemed to prove it was financially strong because, as Oldham claimed, “thousands on thousands” of Liverpool supporters were willing to pay for the privilege of membership – to sway and sing YNWA together as part of Oldham’s happy family.

From there is was not a great leap for them to believe his claims that his site is No.1, packed by supporters from the revered Kop, or that it is based in or near Liverpool and has easy access to Anfield, Melwood and the Academy, and that it has “insider” status at LFC and a stream of privileged information from LFC executives, employees and players, and that the site is led by an owner who attends matches at Anfield regularly and sups beer with fellow reds in Anfield pubs.

It could not all be lies – could it? It was too big to be a lie!

And in the unlikely event that any of it was, let’s say, an exaggeration, surely the other members of KT – fellow Reds – would warn them?

When they sign up and send their cash to Oldham’s PayPal account, international  members don’t know that he abolished the Private Message and email functions on the site last summer to stop members warning each other that it is, indeed, a Big Lie.

And they don’t realise that his brazen promise of 24 x 7 moderation means that any post or thread that asks questions or hints at criticism will be eliminated within minutes and the member banned – even if he has paid his fees.

And if anyone doesn’t like it “they can fuck off” Oldham says – secure in the knowledge that an overseas member is hardly going to spend a small fortune to get the balance of his money back through the British small claims courts.

So unless the new overseas members stumbled on this blog – itself a banned topic on Koptalk- they would never know that Oldham’s site is run from a garden shed a long way from Liverpool by a guy who dare not show his face near Anfield. He has no access to LFC and never has.

The new overseas visitors would not know that his site is firmly rejected by all British-based LFC fans, except for a handful from the fringe, who still hang on out of habit because they got free membership years ago when Oldham was desperate for users.

In fact, he is so short of British-based members that since the summer of 2006 he has all but given up on them and has made overseas supporters the main target of his conning machine.

Rather than being financially strong, he is so desperate for cash that he flouts a 17 year old LFC boycott to take cash from the S*N newspaper – boycotted even among the supporters of other football clubs for the lies it published about LFC supporters.

And most of the new overseas members of Koptalk would be surprised to discover that Oldham (their friend across-the-sea) litters his site with comments about how disgusted he is that there are so few English left in London and that too many non-English live in his street and he uses his podcasts to mock the accents and mannerisms of immigrants in his broad Yorkshire accent.

Needless to say, a few months on from his generous offer – there is no sign of Kop-themed hotel in central Liverpool, or a property near Melwood – not even the ₤300,000 Chris Waddle property he said he was thinking of buying – and no sign of the free plane tickets and other hospitality he offered to overseas members.

In fact the only real thing that occurred as a result of his offer is that more international LFC fans deposited ₤30 in Oldham’s PayPal account.

Yes, it was you he was talking about, new overseas members, when he boasted the other day that he has no idea why people want to use his site, but they do, he said, and they keep his supply of meat pies coming.

Conmen love to gloat about their schemes. Oldham’s too experienced to put it in writing, but you could almost hear him say it when he wrote that piece – “Suckers!”

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The blog’s conception of the “Koptalk Melwood Property”

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The Koptalk Kop-themed Hotel – Special Free Menu for Overseas Guests

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The Koptalk Enclosure at LFC’s Melwood training ground – reserved for overseas fans.

Photo and story from http://www.kraptalk.com

Sun boycott still as strong as ever

Our recent addition to News Now has seen us attract a lot of new readers. If you’re new, thanks for taking the time to read the blog, if you’re a Red, please take lots more time and read lots more of the blog. Especially if you were planning to get yourself a new Koptalk subscription next payday.

Over the past months we’ve had various stages where we get a sudden influx of new visitors. What have become known as “suicide posts” are one way we get a big helping of new readers – someone posting a link to here (or maybe to Est1892 or Six Crazy Minutes) prior to them then being banned by Herr Oldham.

What we always find is that new readers (excluding those who’ve never heard of the site we are blogging about) are a mixture of those who had long suspected something was fishy about the former Scarborough resident who runs Koptalk, or are still  too blind to see how much of a con-artist Mr Koptalk is.

Two recent comment-writers, interestingly enough both Tiscali users, seem to have fallen into the second category. One suggested that we were wrong to complain about Dunk’s unilateral decision to declare an end to hostilities towards The S*n. Come on now Mrs Oldham – do you not think it’s time you told Dunk to behave himself? Your lack of discipline could be partly to blame for his self-centered ways. You should watch “Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory” again and pay close attention to Augustus Gloop. The other comment writer droned on about something I’ve already forgotten. Didn’t you Dunk?

As we’ve said on here many, many times before, the boycott of The S*n is something that all Reds are expected to respect. If you want to add all of Murdoch’s empire to the boycott list then that is your personal choice and many Reds will respect you for doing that, because it’s no small empire. If you want to add everything tarnished by Kelvin McKenzie to the list then again you’ll find yourself earning huge respect. However, the boycott is against The S*n. There is no excuse for buying The S*n, with perhaps the exception of Liverpool FC’s press office buying a copy for the purpose of ensuring The S*n don’t tell any more lies about us.

Duncan Oldham has it delivered every day. He takes stories from it and publishes them without crediting his source. Often the stories are made up by the paper he’s taken them from, so appear nowhere else. This means Reds only get to hear the story if they look at his abhorrent site. It gets him hits and clicks. And possible new members. He makes money from it. He makes even more from it by advertising it – knowingly. He may not have known the ads would appear initially, but he knew they were appearing long before he did anything about removing them.

In case anyone is any doubt about how the boycott of The S*n is still felt strongly, check out these threads from all of these forums. I found all these threads because they link to articles on this blog about Koptalk’s love of The S*n. I don’t think there’s much doubt about how strongly we all feel about the boycott. Just look how many forums spoke about this issue…
Red and White Kop (AKA RAWK) -
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=70519.400

Red All Over the Land (AKA RAOTL) -
http://forum.raotl.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=39061

On the Kop -
http://onthekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=1358.0

Through the Wind and Rain (AKA TTWAR) -
http://forums.lfconline.com/showthread.php?t=48393

(which leads to this wonderful story in the Grauniad – “Sun records lowest sale in 30 years“)

The Liverpool Way (AKA TLW) -
http://forum.liverpoolway.co.uk/showthread.php?t=39279

Also a site with a name I won’t draw too much attention to, but a good site nevertheless. It’s an LFC site that’s not an LFC site, if that makes any sense.
B*llocky Boo (AKA BollockyBoo)
http://bollockyboo.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1109

Not related to the S*n story, but this blog was also mentioned here…
18-5.com
http://18-5.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/78310017/m/9461063122

A site that covers all clubs mentions us and understands the boycott too.
The Fans Forum -
http://thefansforum.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=82&st=0 (About The S*n boycott in general, mentions this blog / Koptalk in post 34 onwards).

Even a Man United site mention us. Well actually it’s that FC United lot.
FCUM Forum -
http://fcumforum.org.uk/mainforum/viewtopic.php?t=45772

So, if you’ve looked through all those, quite some support really. The Tiscali user who thinks it’s ok to defend a so-called Liverpool FC site making money from The S*n is a minority of one from what I can see. Grotbags – how can you defend the Koptalk S*n-love by saying we should boycott all those other media? Grotbags – I think you are a relative of Dunk’s, if not Dunk himself.

Thanks to all those who showed us so much support.

NEVER buy or read The S*n.