What would Shanks have thought of Koptalk?

Shanks died 25 years ago today. I’ve been thinking about him a lot today, wondering what he’d think of the game now. In many ways Rafa reminds me of Shanks, and if you’ve ever listened to a Rafa interview in his native Spanish you’ll know that Rafa is almost as witty as Shanks was.

I think if Shanks was still around today that he’d be quite bemused by the Internet, but once he’d got to grips with it he’d be using it to his own advantage. He’d also be disgusted at someone like Duncan Oldham.

Imagine writing to Shanks if we were fortunate enough to still have him around fit and well today. I know he’d be quite old and probably frail if he had lived on until today, but I’m picturing Shanks as fit and well as he was in the seventies receiving a letter like this today…

Dear Mr Shankly,

I hope you are well sir and I apologise for taking up some of your time in what might seem a trivial matter. As a passionate Liverpool supporter I felt I ought to make you aware of a person who is trying to bring our club’s great name into disrepute purely to make himself some cash.

This person is Mr Duncan Oldham. He lives, as far as we know, at 5 Swan Avenue, Wallsend, Near Newcastle. His attitude towards Liverpool Football Club is disgusting. I’m sure you’ll agree when you read on. This Oldham character owns the website Koptalk.coN – I’ve changed its name there to reflect the reality of it. He’s been running this site since around 1999 and it was quite a useful site initially. Now it’s just a way for him to con Liverpool supporters and smear Liverpool staff and players.

You are of course fully aware of what we Liverpool supporters think of the S*n newspaper, and of course I remember your own views on the paper in 1989 when it made those despicable comments. Mr Oldham, fully aware of the boycott we all have on the S*n, decided it wasn’t important back in 1998 and wore a S*n hat to the World Cup in France. Pictures of him wearing this hat were all over his website afterwards, but he made sure he smudged the S*n logo from the photo first. He later claimed not to have known about the boycott, blaming it all on him being “too young” and being from out of the area. We’ve found comments from him before the World Cup talking all about the S*n boycott though, so he was clearly lying.

He also admitted recently that he reads the S*n every day, admitting to having it delivered to his home. He uses it to write “Exclusive” stories on his site, knowing full well that any reputable supporter would not be reading that paper under any normal circumstances. A story in the S*n is completely unknown to any real Liverpool fans of course, and so he helped his site get more hits by copying their stories. This, tied with the wearing of the S*n hat and other actions involving that paper saw him get some criticism from visitors to his site. As a result, and after it being proved he was lying about being unaware of the S*n boycott saw him react in a way that saw a large part of his site’s visitors leave on the spot. He picked on Peter Crouch, a Liverpool player who was at that time under a lot of criticism from England’s so-called supporters. He made up a story that Crouch had given an exclusive story to the S*n. He was pressed about it and so decided to shout that Crouch had not only given this interview, but that Oldham had got the tapes to prove it! A complete lie of course, and one designed to hurt Crouch too. Especially when Oldham commented that he would hang onto those tapes until he felt like ending Crouch’s Anfield career!

It’s not the first time Oldham has had a go at players from the club you worked so hard to turn into a superpower in football. A few years ago he made efforts to smear Robbie Fowler, making up stories about him being unfit to play due to being on the ale too much. It was all false and all part of his campaign to really screw Robbie’s Liverpool and England careers up. You know he even tried to sell this nonsense to the press, no doubt even including the S*n?

He likes to imply he knows people inside the club – of course you and I know he doesn’t. He makes out he’s got something on Rick Parry, someone he claims to meet regularly. Rick Parry’s also told me (through more than one third party) that he has never met Oldham, let alone have anything that he’s frightened Oldham might be able to blackmail him with. Oldham hates Liverpool – this much is clear with all of these attempts at hurting the club by hurting its players and officials. He tried to spread a load of nonsense about Bellamy having a bust-up with Rafa at Melwood the weekend of the derby. You’ll have no doubt heard all the rumours coming from the bluenoses about Craig – well look no further than Wallsend for the source of this river of diarrhoea.

As well as hurting the club whenever he can he loves to rip off the club’s lifeblood – the fans. People from overseas rely on him and gladly give him money they may find it hard to afford in return for his information from inside the club. I know and you know that he has no such inside information, but it doesn’t stop him taking £30 each off any fan who falls for his lie-infested sales pitch. He says they’ll get insider info – they get none. He implies he’ll give them free web feeds of live action from the games so they can watch a whole match on their computer. He just links to another free web site that provides those feeds, nothing secret at all. He does sometimes offer clips of goals – but these are clips he’s not paid for and couldn’t afford to pay for – he knows he’s breaking the law to provide them but even sticks his site’s koptalk.coN name over the top of them. He says they’ll get text messages to their mobile phones from him with news and more – but most people I speak to just don’t get them. Only a token few are able to get the messages. He sells fake merchandise, claiming it to be signed. He sells tickets at prices that a street tout would be ashamed of.

It’s hard to know where to stop when listing all the things he’s done to hurt Liverpool supporters. He got married to his ex-wife at Anfield, but just like he’s always tried it on with other women he’s tried it on with other clubs. He’s got a season ticket for Newcastle now and goes when he can. He tried to set up a website for them too, but he couldn’t get it going because their fan base is largely Newcastle based and they got wind of how he also ran a Liverpool site. That might be why he lost his Spurs site, or it could be because he didn’t pay the bill for the software he tried to use. That Spurs site even had a BLUE Liverbird on it!

He’s got his family running his site – they all seem to be claiming benefits and he tries to keep everything cash-in-hand. He and his family don’t work, yet they’ve got the money to upgrade their cars and buy huge-screen TVs, expensive cameras and other stuff.

I meant this note to be a short one, just to let you know that if you popped into Melwood this week you might see him stood on the roof of the Mercedes car he bought with the money he ripped out of the hands of Liverpool fans. It’s got a “D 1 UNK” registration plate, you can’t miss it. He’ll say hello to you as you pass and claim he was chatting to you. He takes photos from over the fence at Melwood then tries to make out he’s been inside the place! I’ve not got time to talk about his scams under a false name to rip people off for Sky TV viewing cards or his attempts to get people to join him and his wife for some sordid video activity.

Thanks for taking the time to read this – I hope you are able to do something about him,

Yours,

Insider Insider.

Of course with Mr Shankly I’d have used my real name, but I can already guess what his actions would be. There’s about to be a two-week break from club football where he’d not be able to go and watch the Reds in action. He’d have gone over to Wallsend and knocked on the door of the conman’s house and he’d not have left until he’d got every penny back for the fans. Oldham would finally have got someone of relevance from the club to speak to him directly – but not in the way he’d want on video. By the time Shanks arrived back on Merseyside Oldham would have lost his cars and his plasma tellies along with that big wodge of cash he keeps in his sock drawer. Shanks would not have stood for what Oldham is all about, what Oldham has tried to do to our club. He’d also not have left until he’d got Oldham to close his sites down with a message saying why they were closed down.

Oldham is scum, 100% the opposite of what Liverpool are all about, 100% the opposite of what Shanks tried to turn Liverpool into. Time Oldham left our club alone.

Shanks was special, the sort of person you are lucky if you ever get to meet, the sort of person Liverpool were lucky to have as our manager for the fifteen years he did the job. I think he’d be pleased with what Rafa is doing at Anfield now, although I’m sure he’d keep Rafa on his toes if he was asked about his views!

RIP Shanks.

Is it worth thirty quid yet?

Last night when I logged onto the plummeting site for members only, the newly-named Koptalk Members, I noticed that it had just 76 people logged on in total. SEVENTY SIX! This was at what should be a fairly busy time – I know a lot of people log on during the daytime, and again a lot of people log on during the evening time. Either of those times should be busy. At the time I was logged on me and the other 75 visitors were missing the footy on the box.

Funnily enough there were just two games on the box in the UK at the time. Both of these were featuring Dunk’s “other” teams. His favourite London side Tottenham, subject of his now disappeared spursarmy.coN site – http://whois.domaintools.com/spursarmy.com – and of course his local team, the team he’s got a season ticket for, his current faves, those barcode-wearing Geordies, who used to be subject of another of his discarded websites, upthetoon.coN – http://whois.domaintools.com/upthetoon.com.

After someone (koptalksucks.com) reported his last lot of video clips to the site owners, he’s now taken to putting his illegal videos onto YouTube. See http://youtube.com/watch?v=9EkHTG2FEO4
for the Galatasary goals. He sells his thirty quid memberships to people so that they can see these illegal clips – but he hasn’t even got the sense to restrict them to his members only. Watch the clips for free for as long as he tries to get away with it by visiting us here. See also http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/143949/steven_gerrards_beauties.swf, http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/191821/djibril_cisse.swf and http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/142878/riise_goals.swf – clips of SG, Djibs and JAR, this time using the metacafe site to host them rather than get shut down by his own ISP.

As well as letting you see for free anything Dunk steals for sale on his site, one of the aims of this blog is to let you see just what you get for your money. If you aren’t sure whether to pay for Koptalk or not, look at this piece of so-called insider information…

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SCOUTING REPORT: Player assignment
#1656945 – Wed Sep 27 2006 10:39 AM
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SCOUTING ASSIGNMENT

Date:

Wednesday 27th September 2006

Fixture:

Werder Bremen v Barcelona

Competition:

Champions League

Venue:

Weserstadion (Germany)

Assignment Type:

Player

Player Details:

Diego Ribas (Bremen). Attacking midfielder/forward. D.O.B. 28-02-85. Brazilian with 2nd nationality (Italian). Has EU passport. Signs for Bremen in May 2006 for 6m Euro from Porto. Previously with Santos.

Speculation or Confirmed?:

Assignment details (fixture & venue) confirmed. Player identity confirmed.

Liverpool FC official or agent(s):

Club’s own scout(s).

Previously Scouted:

12-09-06: UEFA Champions League Group A match (Stamford Bridge) Chelsea v Bremen.

So what did you make of that? Something that anybody could make up? Of course it is, and a typical piece of bullshit from Oldham. The only scouts he knows are the ones that meet up at his local church hall every Thursday, and the less said about Oldham and such things the better.

I thought this was a funny little thread too. Seems to be rather heavy with sarcasm, but these people could actually like Oldham for real…


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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: shiney]
#1657325 – Wed Sep 27 2006 06:12 PM
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Ok Ok… now I don’t want to sound all gushy or anything but I can’t help but notice that since Ste took over as Ed that Dunk has been around on the forums more often.

As a result I’ve found that the quality of threads has dramatically improved over the last few weeks. To the extent that I (a lurker by nature) actually felt the need to write this post.

Just thought I’d voice my appreciation. I also like the revamp that I assume Steve has made to the site.

I’m off now to scrape this brown stuff off my tongue and find a breath mint.

3-0 tonight. Crouch will score.

This has got to be a wind up right? Everyone hates me

Since we’ve been making the changes we can concentrate more on our members which is only right. We’re not finished yet, we need to upgrade the software and make things easier to navigate for you.

The best thing I’ve ever done is scale down the free site because it was leaving me/us with little time. This has enabled us to get to Melwood more often and do other things.

Steve’s got a lot to learn yet but he’s a good lad.

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: Dunk]
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Ok Ok… now I don’t want to sound all gushy or anything but I can’t help but notice that since Ste took over as Ed that Dunk has been around on the forums more often.

As a result I’ve found that the quality of threads has dramatically improved over the last few weeks. To the extent that I (a lurker by nature) actually felt the need to write this post.

Just thought I’d voice my appreciation. I also like the revamp that I assume Steve has made to the site.

I’m off now to scrape this brown stuff off my tongue and find a breath mint.

3-0 tonight. Crouch will score.

This has got to be a wind up right? Everyone hates me

Since we’ve been making the changes we can concentrate more on our members which is only right. We’re not finished yet, we need to upgrade the software and make things easier to navigate for you.

The best thing I’ve ever done is scale down the free site because it was leaving me/us with little time. This has enabled us to get to Melwood more often and do other things.

Steve’s got a lot to learn yet but he’s a good lad.

Hate is a strong word.

‘Tolerate’ is more accurate.

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: shiney]
#1657334 – Wed Sep 27 2006 06:28 PM
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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: Dunk]
#1657447 – Wed Sep 27 2006 08:26 PM
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This has got to be a wind up right? Everyone hates me

Since we’ve been making the changes we can concentrate more on our members which is only right. We’re not finished yet, we need to upgrade the software and make things easier to navigate for you.

The best thing I’ve ever done is scale down the free site because it was leaving me/us with little time. This has enabled us to get to Melwood more often and do other things.

Steve’s got a lot to learn yet but he’s a good lad.

Will you be getting interviews with the players now that your good friends with Parry now that would be impressive….surely you should of got that perk in when you met him big man??

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: thesilverfoxlfc]
#1657691 – Wed Sep 27 2006 10:45 PM
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just to add to the brown arsing – steve is first rate at sorting things out there and then. Thanks

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: redohagan1]
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I’ll second that, Steve your a star mate. Sorted me out with the upgrade in no time. Top man.

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: jon cymraeg]
#1657817 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:22 AM
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We still need to improve. I get very unhappy when I hear someone has been kept waiting which is why I always tell people to bell his mobile and threaten him


Like a politician (Cyril Smith?) – only answer the questions you want to answer. What about some interviews via your mate Rick Parry? What’s that? You’ve never met Rick Parry? He doesn’t have something you want? You’ve not got something he wants?

Something you have got though is a rapidly shrinking pile of thirty quids that you’ve conned out of people over the years. Along with your other large wads of cash from ticket touting and selling fake so-called “signed” items. Now that you know we’re watching you it’s impossible for you to pull these cons. Some people think you’ll be doing a runner sooner or later with the cash you’ve collected over those years, and it’s been commented on here on this blog by some. Which is probably why you posted this…


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Cheap flights
#1658506 – Thu Sep 28 2006 05:25 PM
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Do you have any experience of any cheap hotel flights websites please?

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
#1658508 – Thu Sep 28 2006 05:26 PM
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Going anywhere nice

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
#1658509 – Thu Sep 28 2006 05:27 PM
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www.sidestep.com

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
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Do you have any experience of any cheap hotel flights websites please?

http://www.skyscanner.co.uk is good Dunk. It basically searches all across Europe’s flight websites and collates the cheapest on offer for you by date, price or both.

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: liverpool69]
#1658514 – Thu Sep 28 2006 05:39 PM
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Going anywhere nice

I’m doing a runner

Thanks for the links. Will check them out

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
#1658621 – Thu Sep 28 2006 09:01 PM
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Going anywhere nice

I’m doing a runner

Thanks for the links. Will check them out

Can i come too? Want to top up my tan

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
#1658633 – Thu Sep 28 2006 09:10 PM
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Going anywhere nice

I’m doing a runner

Thanks for the links. Will check them out

CSA finally caught up with you…..

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I doubt you’ll be going anywhere too far myself though, because thanks to your greed you’ve even got your mam in trouble over her dodgy taking of money meant for Lauren. So she can’t lend you the cash for a flight, and you’ve no doubt spent most of what was left on cameras, scaffolding and hotel rooms.

Maybe he posted the flight thing for us as part of a two-part mini-series. Here’s part two, with special guest star Smooch the Noo Yoiker with no mates…


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Where you work?
#1657836 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:29 AM
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If inside, what’s it like? Does it get hot? I ask because on Wednesday I couldn’t bear the heat

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Re: Where you work? [Re: Dunk]
#1657839 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:30 AM
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I’m a slave! And its hot as hell!

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Re: Where you work? [Re: Smoove]
#1657843 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:34 AM
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Roger.

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Why on earth he needs to post such crap on his already crap site is beyond me, but seeing as he and Smoochy met up playing games on their xboxes against each other it may just be part of some fantasy they have. Maybe it’s a game where Dunk is using a radio and he has to say “Roger”. Or maybe rogering is part of the fantasy. Dunk used to have a hobby playing with radios at one time. He was into scanners and such like, way back in his Del Johnson days. Funnily enough, (and clearly a complete coincidence, nothing to do with any kind of insurance scam I am sure) someone on his own street in Scarborough recently reported some expensive radios of the type Dunk used to talk on Usenet about as having been stolen from their car! Purely a coincidence though I’m sure. Read about it here.

Next up, a quick plug for Dunk’s fave film, from “Katie” who may or may not actually post messages herself sometimes. It’s the one directed and written by Mr Jefferies of course, he who supposedly wanted to invest in LFC and supposedly posts on Koptalk.


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Finally!!!
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There has more than likely already been posts about this in the past, but tonight I finally managed to sit down and watch Goal, and i have to say it is a great film! Dont know why but i couldnt stop watching it! mainly because i couldnt find the remote to pause it

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Re: Finally!!! [Re: Katie]
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You should have consulted me before posting this… you’ll get slated, trust me

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I’ve not seen it myself to be honest, so I can’t really comment. Must be really crap judging by Dunk’s reply. The one where he uses his own name. We all now know that one of Dunk’s family members really is called Katie, and she gets paid a bit of cash-in-hand from Dunk to lock people out of his forums on his behalf. We also know that Dunk logs on as her from time-to-time. He also logs on as “ST3″ for example. That’s two examples of real people who Dunk pretends to be on occasion. There’s also the fictional ones too – remember “Wallet”? Here’s a lovely tale all about him…


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Any word from the Wallet….
#1657808 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:15 AM
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….about investment and all that caper he should know a few things as it seems there is ripples in the water concerning takeover or investment.

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: thesilverfoxlfc]
#1657815 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:19 AM
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Is this THE wallet as in Parry or the wallet from here? Apparently he’s one of my aliases

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
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Is this THE wallet as in Parry or the wallet from here? Apparently he’s one of my aliases

one of 40 apparently! (Could be 40 Ian, it could be. I’ve not counted. But if you are daft enough to believe that “Wallet” is anyone other than the big S*n-lover himself then you really are quite gullible.)

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: iangarratt1]
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one of 40 apparently!

Yeh and you’e on of ‘em

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
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No the wallet here aint he close to RP?

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
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one of 40 apparently!

Yeh and you’e on of ‘em

so im having a conversation with myself! (At the rate Koptalk is losing members you soon will be)
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: thesilverfoxlfc]
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Let me see when he was last on. (Could do with a drum roll here…)
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
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He’s been on recently but hasn’t posted for a month. Have emailed him (Keep those drums rolling…)
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: thesilverfoxlfc]
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Wherabouts of the wallet = Getting LEATHERED.

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: carras_boot]
#1658084 – Thu Sep 28 2006 10:52 AM
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LOL!! I thought wallet was a silver member so maybe he dont have access since the changes…..
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: andyzbox]
#1658092 – Thu Sep 28 2006 11:01 AM
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I heard that the wallet banned himself
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
#1658118 – Thu Sep 28 2006 11:30 AM
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He’s been on recently but hasn’t posted for a month. Have emailed him

could you not ask yourself the question rather than emailing yourself?
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: PaulC]
#1658137 – Thu Sep 28 2006 11:45 AM
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could you not ask yourself the question rather than emailing yourself?

There goes another rib
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Griffo]
#1658145 – Thu Sep 28 2006 11:51 AM
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Does no-one think he might not have posted any info because he doesn’t have any?
Give the guy a break, I’m sure he’ll pass on any info when he gets it.
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Ryan_Derrick]
#1658215 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:43 PM
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He’s just emailed me. Says he’s locked out but has been busy. I’ve asked Steve to sort him out. (You can stop that drum roll now. I thought we’d had the “Wallet” locked out before?)

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Dunk’s not got as much time to use his aliases now though – he’s far too busy starting topics off in the desperate hope that it will get some interest. And he really does sound desperate, and very replies are forthcoming from his remaining guests…

So – is it worth thirty quid yet? Not a chance. Especially when you can keep checking out if it’s worth it by looking here – for free.