What would Shanks have thought of Koptalk?

Shanks died 25 years ago today. I’ve been thinking about him a lot today, wondering what he’d think of the game now. In many ways Rafa reminds me of Shanks, and if you’ve ever listened to a Rafa interview in his native Spanish you’ll know that Rafa is almost as witty as Shanks was.

I think if Shanks was still around today that he’d be quite bemused by the Internet, but once he’d got to grips with it he’d be using it to his own advantage. He’d also be disgusted at someone like Duncan Oldham.

Imagine writing to Shanks if we were fortunate enough to still have him around fit and well today. I know he’d be quite old and probably frail if he had lived on until today, but I’m picturing Shanks as fit and well as he was in the seventies receiving a letter like this today…

Dear Mr Shankly,

I hope you are well sir and I apologise for taking up some of your time in what might seem a trivial matter. As a passionate Liverpool supporter I felt I ought to make you aware of a person who is trying to bring our club’s great name into disrepute purely to make himself some cash.

This person is Mr Duncan Oldham. He lives, as far as we know, at 5 Swan Avenue, Wallsend, Near Newcastle. His attitude towards Liverpool Football Club is disgusting. I’m sure you’ll agree when you read on. This Oldham character owns the website Koptalk.coN – I’ve changed its name there to reflect the reality of it. He’s been running this site since around 1999 and it was quite a useful site initially. Now it’s just a way for him to con Liverpool supporters and smear Liverpool staff and players.

You are of course fully aware of what we Liverpool supporters think of the S*n newspaper, and of course I remember your own views on the paper in 1989 when it made those despicable comments. Mr Oldham, fully aware of the boycott we all have on the S*n, decided it wasn’t important back in 1998 and wore a S*n hat to the World Cup in France. Pictures of him wearing this hat were all over his website afterwards, but he made sure he smudged the S*n logo from the photo first. He later claimed not to have known about the boycott, blaming it all on him being “too young” and being from out of the area. We’ve found comments from him before the World Cup talking all about the S*n boycott though, so he was clearly lying.

He also admitted recently that he reads the S*n every day, admitting to having it delivered to his home. He uses it to write “Exclusive” stories on his site, knowing full well that any reputable supporter would not be reading that paper under any normal circumstances. A story in the S*n is completely unknown to any real Liverpool fans of course, and so he helped his site get more hits by copying their stories. This, tied with the wearing of the S*n hat and other actions involving that paper saw him get some criticism from visitors to his site. As a result, and after it being proved he was lying about being unaware of the S*n boycott saw him react in a way that saw a large part of his site’s visitors leave on the spot. He picked on Peter Crouch, a Liverpool player who was at that time under a lot of criticism from England’s so-called supporters. He made up a story that Crouch had given an exclusive story to the S*n. He was pressed about it and so decided to shout that Crouch had not only given this interview, but that Oldham had got the tapes to prove it! A complete lie of course, and one designed to hurt Crouch too. Especially when Oldham commented that he would hang onto those tapes until he felt like ending Crouch’s Anfield career!

It’s not the first time Oldham has had a go at players from the club you worked so hard to turn into a superpower in football. A few years ago he made efforts to smear Robbie Fowler, making up stories about him being unfit to play due to being on the ale too much. It was all false and all part of his campaign to really screw Robbie’s Liverpool and England careers up. You know he even tried to sell this nonsense to the press, no doubt even including the S*n?

He likes to imply he knows people inside the club – of course you and I know he doesn’t. He makes out he’s got something on Rick Parry, someone he claims to meet regularly. Rick Parry’s also told me (through more than one third party) that he has never met Oldham, let alone have anything that he’s frightened Oldham might be able to blackmail him with. Oldham hates Liverpool – this much is clear with all of these attempts at hurting the club by hurting its players and officials. He tried to spread a load of nonsense about Bellamy having a bust-up with Rafa at Melwood the weekend of the derby. You’ll have no doubt heard all the rumours coming from the bluenoses about Craig – well look no further than Wallsend for the source of this river of diarrhoea.

As well as hurting the club whenever he can he loves to rip off the club’s lifeblood – the fans. People from overseas rely on him and gladly give him money they may find it hard to afford in return for his information from inside the club. I know and you know that he has no such inside information, but it doesn’t stop him taking £30 each off any fan who falls for his lie-infested sales pitch. He says they’ll get insider info – they get none. He implies he’ll give them free web feeds of live action from the games so they can watch a whole match on their computer. He just links to another free web site that provides those feeds, nothing secret at all. He does sometimes offer clips of goals – but these are clips he’s not paid for and couldn’t afford to pay for – he knows he’s breaking the law to provide them but even sticks his site’s koptalk.coN name over the top of them. He says they’ll get text messages to their mobile phones from him with news and more – but most people I speak to just don’t get them. Only a token few are able to get the messages. He sells fake merchandise, claiming it to be signed. He sells tickets at prices that a street tout would be ashamed of.

It’s hard to know where to stop when listing all the things he’s done to hurt Liverpool supporters. He got married to his ex-wife at Anfield, but just like he’s always tried it on with other women he’s tried it on with other clubs. He’s got a season ticket for Newcastle now and goes when he can. He tried to set up a website for them too, but he couldn’t get it going because their fan base is largely Newcastle based and they got wind of how he also ran a Liverpool site. That might be why he lost his Spurs site, or it could be because he didn’t pay the bill for the software he tried to use. That Spurs site even had a BLUE Liverbird on it!

He’s got his family running his site – they all seem to be claiming benefits and he tries to keep everything cash-in-hand. He and his family don’t work, yet they’ve got the money to upgrade their cars and buy huge-screen TVs, expensive cameras and other stuff.

I meant this note to be a short one, just to let you know that if you popped into Melwood this week you might see him stood on the roof of the Mercedes car he bought with the money he ripped out of the hands of Liverpool fans. It’s got a “D 1 UNK” registration plate, you can’t miss it. He’ll say hello to you as you pass and claim he was chatting to you. He takes photos from over the fence at Melwood then tries to make out he’s been inside the place! I’ve not got time to talk about his scams under a false name to rip people off for Sky TV viewing cards or his attempts to get people to join him and his wife for some sordid video activity.

Thanks for taking the time to read this – I hope you are able to do something about him,

Yours,

Insider Insider.

Of course with Mr Shankly I’d have used my real name, but I can already guess what his actions would be. There’s about to be a two-week break from club football where he’d not be able to go and watch the Reds in action. He’d have gone over to Wallsend and knocked on the door of the conman’s house and he’d not have left until he’d got every penny back for the fans. Oldham would finally have got someone of relevance from the club to speak to him directly – but not in the way he’d want on video. By the time Shanks arrived back on Merseyside Oldham would have lost his cars and his plasma tellies along with that big wodge of cash he keeps in his sock drawer. Shanks would not have stood for what Oldham is all about, what Oldham has tried to do to our club. He’d also not have left until he’d got Oldham to close his sites down with a message saying why they were closed down.

Oldham is scum, 100% the opposite of what Liverpool are all about, 100% the opposite of what Shanks tried to turn Liverpool into. Time Oldham left our club alone.

Shanks was special, the sort of person you are lucky if you ever get to meet, the sort of person Liverpool were lucky to have as our manager for the fifteen years he did the job. I think he’d be pleased with what Rafa is doing at Anfield now, although I’m sure he’d keep Rafa on his toes if he was asked about his views!

RIP Shanks.

Is it worth thirty quid yet?

Last night when I logged onto the plummeting site for members only, the newly-named Koptalk Members, I noticed that it had just 76 people logged on in total. SEVENTY SIX! This was at what should be a fairly busy time – I know a lot of people log on during the daytime, and again a lot of people log on during the evening time. Either of those times should be busy. At the time I was logged on me and the other 75 visitors were missing the footy on the box.

Funnily enough there were just two games on the box in the UK at the time. Both of these were featuring Dunk’s “other” teams. His favourite London side Tottenham, subject of his now disappeared spursarmy.coN site – http://whois.domaintools.com/spursarmy.com – and of course his local team, the team he’s got a season ticket for, his current faves, those barcode-wearing Geordies, who used to be subject of another of his discarded websites, upthetoon.coN – http://whois.domaintools.com/upthetoon.com.

After someone (koptalksucks.com) reported his last lot of video clips to the site owners, he’s now taken to putting his illegal videos onto YouTube. See http://youtube.com/watch?v=9EkHTG2FEO4
for the Galatasary goals. He sells his thirty quid memberships to people so that they can see these illegal clips – but he hasn’t even got the sense to restrict them to his members only. Watch the clips for free for as long as he tries to get away with it by visiting us here. See also http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/143949/steven_gerrards_beauties.swf, http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/191821/djibril_cisse.swf and http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/142878/riise_goals.swf – clips of SG, Djibs and JAR, this time using the metacafe site to host them rather than get shut down by his own ISP.

As well as letting you see for free anything Dunk steals for sale on his site, one of the aims of this blog is to let you see just what you get for your money. If you aren’t sure whether to pay for Koptalk or not, look at this piece of so-called insider information…

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SCOUTING REPORT: Player assignment
#1656945 – Wed Sep 27 2006 10:39 AM
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SCOUTING ASSIGNMENT

Date:

Wednesday 27th September 2006

Fixture:

Werder Bremen v Barcelona

Competition:

Champions League

Venue:

Weserstadion (Germany)

Assignment Type:

Player

Player Details:

Diego Ribas (Bremen). Attacking midfielder/forward. D.O.B. 28-02-85. Brazilian with 2nd nationality (Italian). Has EU passport. Signs for Bremen in May 2006 for 6m Euro from Porto. Previously with Santos.

Speculation or Confirmed?:

Assignment details (fixture & venue) confirmed. Player identity confirmed.

Liverpool FC official or agent(s):

Club’s own scout(s).

Previously Scouted:

12-09-06: UEFA Champions League Group A match (Stamford Bridge) Chelsea v Bremen.

So what did you make of that? Something that anybody could make up? Of course it is, and a typical piece of bullshit from Oldham. The only scouts he knows are the ones that meet up at his local church hall every Thursday, and the less said about Oldham and such things the better.

I thought this was a funny little thread too. Seems to be rather heavy with sarcasm, but these people could actually like Oldham for real…


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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: shiney]
#1657325 – Wed Sep 27 2006 06:12 PM
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Ok Ok… now I don’t want to sound all gushy or anything but I can’t help but notice that since Ste took over as Ed that Dunk has been around on the forums more often.

As a result I’ve found that the quality of threads has dramatically improved over the last few weeks. To the extent that I (a lurker by nature) actually felt the need to write this post.

Just thought I’d voice my appreciation. I also like the revamp that I assume Steve has made to the site.

I’m off now to scrape this brown stuff off my tongue and find a breath mint.

3-0 tonight. Crouch will score.

This has got to be a wind up right? Everyone hates me

Since we’ve been making the changes we can concentrate more on our members which is only right. We’re not finished yet, we need to upgrade the software and make things easier to navigate for you.

The best thing I’ve ever done is scale down the free site because it was leaving me/us with little time. This has enabled us to get to Melwood more often and do other things.

Steve’s got a lot to learn yet but he’s a good lad.

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: Dunk]
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Ok Ok… now I don’t want to sound all gushy or anything but I can’t help but notice that since Ste took over as Ed that Dunk has been around on the forums more often.

As a result I’ve found that the quality of threads has dramatically improved over the last few weeks. To the extent that I (a lurker by nature) actually felt the need to write this post.

Just thought I’d voice my appreciation. I also like the revamp that I assume Steve has made to the site.

I’m off now to scrape this brown stuff off my tongue and find a breath mint.

3-0 tonight. Crouch will score.

This has got to be a wind up right? Everyone hates me

Since we’ve been making the changes we can concentrate more on our members which is only right. We’re not finished yet, we need to upgrade the software and make things easier to navigate for you.

The best thing I’ve ever done is scale down the free site because it was leaving me/us with little time. This has enabled us to get to Melwood more often and do other things.

Steve’s got a lot to learn yet but he’s a good lad.

Hate is a strong word.

‘Tolerate’ is more accurate.

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: shiney]
#1657334 – Wed Sep 27 2006 06:28 PM
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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: Dunk]
#1657447 – Wed Sep 27 2006 08:26 PM
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This has got to be a wind up right? Everyone hates me

Since we’ve been making the changes we can concentrate more on our members which is only right. We’re not finished yet, we need to upgrade the software and make things easier to navigate for you.

The best thing I’ve ever done is scale down the free site because it was leaving me/us with little time. This has enabled us to get to Melwood more often and do other things.

Steve’s got a lot to learn yet but he’s a good lad.

Will you be getting interviews with the players now that your good friends with Parry now that would be impressive….surely you should of got that perk in when you met him big man??

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: thesilverfoxlfc]
#1657691 – Wed Sep 27 2006 10:45 PM
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just to add to the brown arsing – steve is first rate at sorting things out there and then. Thanks

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: redohagan1]
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I’ll second that, Steve your a star mate. Sorted me out with the upgrade in no time. Top man.

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Re: Dunk – Sorry Steve – appreciation thread… [Re: jon cymraeg]
#1657817 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:22 AM
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We still need to improve. I get very unhappy when I hear someone has been kept waiting which is why I always tell people to bell his mobile and threaten him


Like a politician (Cyril Smith?) – only answer the questions you want to answer. What about some interviews via your mate Rick Parry? What’s that? You’ve never met Rick Parry? He doesn’t have something you want? You’ve not got something he wants?

Something you have got though is a rapidly shrinking pile of thirty quids that you’ve conned out of people over the years. Along with your other large wads of cash from ticket touting and selling fake so-called “signed” items. Now that you know we’re watching you it’s impossible for you to pull these cons. Some people think you’ll be doing a runner sooner or later with the cash you’ve collected over those years, and it’s been commented on here on this blog by some. Which is probably why you posted this…


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Cheap flights
#1658506 – Thu Sep 28 2006 05:25 PM
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Do you have any experience of any cheap hotel flights websites please?

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
#1658508 – Thu Sep 28 2006 05:26 PM
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Going anywhere nice

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
#1658509 – Thu Sep 28 2006 05:27 PM
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www.sidestep.com

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
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Do you have any experience of any cheap hotel flights websites please?

http://www.skyscanner.co.uk is good Dunk. It basically searches all across Europe’s flight websites and collates the cheapest on offer for you by date, price or both.

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: liverpool69]
#1658514 – Thu Sep 28 2006 05:39 PM
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Going anywhere nice

I’m doing a runner

Thanks for the links. Will check them out

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
#1658621 – Thu Sep 28 2006 09:01 PM
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Going anywhere nice

I’m doing a runner

Thanks for the links. Will check them out

Can i come too? Want to top up my tan

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Re: Cheap flights [Re: Dunk]
#1658633 – Thu Sep 28 2006 09:10 PM
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Going anywhere nice

I’m doing a runner

Thanks for the links. Will check them out

CSA finally caught up with you…..

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I doubt you’ll be going anywhere too far myself though, because thanks to your greed you’ve even got your mam in trouble over her dodgy taking of money meant for Lauren. So she can’t lend you the cash for a flight, and you’ve no doubt spent most of what was left on cameras, scaffolding and hotel rooms.

Maybe he posted the flight thing for us as part of a two-part mini-series. Here’s part two, with special guest star Smooch the Noo Yoiker with no mates…


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Where you work?
#1657836 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:29 AM
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If inside, what’s it like? Does it get hot? I ask because on Wednesday I couldn’t bear the heat

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Re: Where you work? [Re: Dunk]
#1657839 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:30 AM
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I’m a slave! And its hot as hell!

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Re: Where you work? [Re: Smoove]
#1657843 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:34 AM
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Roger.

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Why on earth he needs to post such crap on his already crap site is beyond me, but seeing as he and Smoochy met up playing games on their xboxes against each other it may just be part of some fantasy they have. Maybe it’s a game where Dunk is using a radio and he has to say “Roger”. Or maybe rogering is part of the fantasy. Dunk used to have a hobby playing with radios at one time. He was into scanners and such like, way back in his Del Johnson days. Funnily enough, (and clearly a complete coincidence, nothing to do with any kind of insurance scam I am sure) someone on his own street in Scarborough recently reported some expensive radios of the type Dunk used to talk on Usenet about as having been stolen from their car! Purely a coincidence though I’m sure. Read about it here.

Next up, a quick plug for Dunk’s fave film, from “Katie” who may or may not actually post messages herself sometimes. It’s the one directed and written by Mr Jefferies of course, he who supposedly wanted to invest in LFC and supposedly posts on Koptalk.


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Finally!!!
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There has more than likely already been posts about this in the past, but tonight I finally managed to sit down and watch Goal, and i have to say it is a great film! Dont know why but i couldnt stop watching it! mainly because i couldnt find the remote to pause it

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Re: Finally!!! [Re: Katie]
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You should have consulted me before posting this… you’ll get slated, trust me

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I’ve not seen it myself to be honest, so I can’t really comment. Must be really crap judging by Dunk’s reply. The one where he uses his own name. We all now know that one of Dunk’s family members really is called Katie, and she gets paid a bit of cash-in-hand from Dunk to lock people out of his forums on his behalf. We also know that Dunk logs on as her from time-to-time. He also logs on as “ST3″ for example. That’s two examples of real people who Dunk pretends to be on occasion. There’s also the fictional ones too – remember “Wallet”? Here’s a lovely tale all about him…


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Any word from the Wallet….
#1657808 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:15 AM
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….about investment and all that caper he should know a few things as it seems there is ripples in the water concerning takeover or investment.

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: thesilverfoxlfc]
#1657815 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:19 AM
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Is this THE wallet as in Parry or the wallet from here? Apparently he’s one of my aliases

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
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Is this THE wallet as in Parry or the wallet from here? Apparently he’s one of my aliases

one of 40 apparently! (Could be 40 Ian, it could be. I’ve not counted. But if you are daft enough to believe that “Wallet” is anyone other than the big S*n-lover himself then you really are quite gullible.)

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: iangarratt1]
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one of 40 apparently!

Yeh and you’e on of ‘em

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
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No the wallet here aint he close to RP?

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
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one of 40 apparently!

Yeh and you’e on of ‘em

so im having a conversation with myself! (At the rate Koptalk is losing members you soon will be)
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: thesilverfoxlfc]
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Let me see when he was last on. (Could do with a drum roll here…)
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
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He’s been on recently but hasn’t posted for a month. Have emailed him (Keep those drums rolling…)
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: thesilverfoxlfc]
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Wherabouts of the wallet = Getting LEATHERED.

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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: carras_boot]
#1658084 – Thu Sep 28 2006 10:52 AM
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LOL!! I thought wallet was a silver member so maybe he dont have access since the changes…..
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: andyzbox]
#1658092 – Thu Sep 28 2006 11:01 AM
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I heard that the wallet banned himself
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Dunk]
#1658118 – Thu Sep 28 2006 11:30 AM
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He’s been on recently but hasn’t posted for a month. Have emailed him

could you not ask yourself the question rather than emailing yourself?
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: PaulC]
#1658137 – Thu Sep 28 2006 11:45 AM
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could you not ask yourself the question rather than emailing yourself?

There goes another rib
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Griffo]
#1658145 – Thu Sep 28 2006 11:51 AM
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Does no-one think he might not have posted any info because he doesn’t have any?
Give the guy a break, I’m sure he’ll pass on any info when he gets it.
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Re: Any word from the Wallet…. [Re: Ryan_Derrick]
#1658215 – Thu Sep 28 2006 12:43 PM
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He’s just emailed me. Says he’s locked out but has been busy. I’ve asked Steve to sort him out. (You can stop that drum roll now. I thought we’d had the “Wallet” locked out before?)

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Dunk’s not got as much time to use his aliases now though – he’s far too busy starting topics off in the desperate hope that it will get some interest. And he really does sound desperate, and very replies are forthcoming from his remaining guests…

So – is it worth thirty quid yet? Not a chance. Especially when you can keep checking out if it’s worth it by looking here – for free.

What are the streets of Wallsend paved with?

Is it worth paying 30 quid yet for Koptalk? Is it worth Dunk keeping on trying with his site? My view? No and no.

He’s playing with the software he’s going to use, you can look yourself at http://www.koptalk.coN/members (change the “N” to a “m” of course). It’s UBBThreads he’s gone for, it seems pretty clear that after his attempts at conning the people at FusionBB they’ve made it clear he isn’t welcome.

He’s now completely ditched all of those people who became members of his insider site over the years under various lifetime membership options. Thankfully I’m still using one of the donated Gold Club memberships otherwise we’d have to pay to keep you updated on what’s going on. When I last looked at the site there were only 80 people viewing, which suggests even more of a downfall.

He’s also decided to scrap ads on his insider / gold / member site – no part of that forum now has ads on. At least I don’t think they have, but seeing as I’ve all kinds of anti-Koptalk ad-blockers installed I might be wrong.

The front page of the .coN site continues its long-term role. That is, to act as a gateway to a land paved with gold. In reality though more and more people now realise it leads to land paved with cobbles and covered in dogshit. Well, bullshit.

Under the heading “LATEST MEMBER UPDATES” we are offered a range of little enticements to get us to cough up for the site that is kept secret unless we pay. To say that the offers are misleading is, as ever, a huge understatement.

Take the first headline: “Discussion – Former Red confirms 4 U.S. vistors at Anfield”. What do you expect to see when you see that? Even for Dunk’s standards this is pretty shit to say the very least. It’s a link to the official site’s David Fairclough column! Yes, he’s trying to sell thirty quid memberships off the back of articles freely available on the official site!

The article is to be found F.O.C. at http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/NG153573060926-1636.htm and this is how the overweight balding conman refers to it:

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Re: ‘….the guests included four American visitors…..’ [Re: skywalker]
#1656499 – Tue Sep 26 2006 05:38 PM Reply Quote

Last week, while I hosted sponsors Carlsberg’s lounge for the Newcastle match, the guests included four American visitors who were over to watch a Premier league game for the very first time. Before the game I expressed my hopes the occasion and atmosphere would be one they would remember and thankfully the lads didn’t let them down. While the atmosphere was great the special moment they left with was the memory of seeing Xabi Alonso scoring from 60 yards. I told them later they’d witnessed something very unusual and unique to Anfield.

Yes that’s it – one stolen paragraph from the official site. Even I didn’t expect that kind of trick from the lardy one.

Next headline to draw you in – “Press Conferences Liverpool v Galatasaray – quotes/notes”

At last a bit of work. I say “a bit” because that’s all it is. He’s seen the pre-match press conference and scribbled a few notes down. He doesn’t do shorthand, he’s too lazy to use the pause/rewind functions on his Sky+ box, so he doesn’t finish the job off. If he’d carefully transcribed the quotes from the press conference I think most people would consider that a worthwhile service. Not worth 30 quid by any means but at least something worthwhile from his site. Typical Dunk though, far too lazy to do that so instead we get this (free of charge to you)…


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Galatasaray pre-match press conference notes
#1656462 – Tue Sep 26 2006 04:47 PM Reply Quote

The following are notes, shortened if you like, from what was actually said at today’s press conference. They are not direct quotes but they give you an idea of what was said.

Luis Garcia:

I think it’s going to be a long time until something happens (with the new stadium). We (the players) haven’t talked about it. I think for the players it will be really nice but now there’s no point thinking about it. I like the current stadium.

We are doing this right, the Gala game is different, anything can happen. We were down after the Everton defeat but it’s a long, long season.

It’s been difficult to work because we haven’t had a lot of time due to all the games. I think we are trying to be as consistent as least season. The team is starting to show what we can do.

I think every game is going to be our target. We shouldn’t think ahead. We shouldn’t think about winning the title or cups, it should be the next game.

Last season’s Champions League showed every team is difficult. People said we were going to beat Benfica 3-0 etc but every game is difficult and we need to concentrate.

Of course the fans always want more and they want us to win the Champions League again. I think we are better than 2 years ago but we need to show it on the pitch. We have to try and do the best each game.

Confidence is high. We think we can win all of them but we have to think about each game. Gala are a team that play really deep that will wait for us to play against the counter-attack to take their chance. It’s difficult to play against this style because a lot of players are in front of you behind the ball and it’s difficult. We have to think that Anfield victories are the most important for us go through.

Rafa Benitez:

We must try and play as well as the last games, score goals, continue winning here at Anfield.

The team is much better now than 2 weeks ago. At Anfield we play with confidence. We need to settle down in each game. We can play better. Anfield is fantastic because of the supporters. When our players feel the support of our people they play well and that quality will score goals. A quicker tempo, higher tempo is the key.

I said to Craig Bellamy things like I said to Crouch last season (bout lack of goals). If he’s playing well for the team I’m happy. The goals will come. He knows what he must do during the games. Sometimes he needs to run and create space for the rest of his team-mates. This is teamwork. He’s a player who is really focused, he’s a good example for his team-mates. He has a background but he is very good.

When you have 4 strikers it’s not easy to use all of them. One of them will not be playing which is difficult but they know – all of the team know – we are always tying to change things depending on the team we play or the competition we play in. They will all get games during the season.

If we created chances we will score goals especially with the quality we have now. Our idea is to start winning now after the draw at PSV. Gala is a good team with good players. They have quality and experience. Videos show they have ability. As Luis Garcia says, they will play deep and try to play on the counter-attack.

After Wednesday’s training session I will decide what strikers will play. I am really happy with all of them. Crouch is training well, Robbie is training really, really well. It’s not a real problem because they are all fit now and they have a lot of confidence. I don’t think you will see many new faces (in the starting line up).

I can understand people wanting consistency but it depends on the final score. We need fresh legs. It’s no good having loads of fresh legs at the end of the season.

I explained the other day I am really happy in Anfield but to improve with a new Anfield. If we want to have the same memories we need to win games and trophies. We are really happy here but a new stadium means more supporters will be happy. We must go if we can.

I was really happy when I came here because we knew about the history of the club. Reading and talking about the history of Bill Shankly and this club are amazing. It’s a very big club. Always you can learn (from Shankly) but things change in life, it’s difficult. The club is more traditional than all clubs but we must change and improve like other clubs. It’s good to keep your history but we must change (with the times).

No injury worries ahead of the game.
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Just another ten minutes and that could have been a really good feature. Perhaps you’ll be so kind as to take our comments on board for next time then Duncan. We know you read this.

The next headline to entice you in is the one with a promise of free football. “TV / Sat / Online Liverpool v Galatasaray – ONLINE” suggests that paying for membership will give you access to watch the game free of charge online. Access that you can’t otherwise get. Well it might be free of charge, but you’ll be able to get it in many other places. In fact one place you’ll be able to get it is wherever it is Dunk finds it – here’s what that link actually takes you to…

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Liverpool v Galatasaray – ONLINE
#1656417 – Tue Sep 26 2006 03:48 PM Reply Quote

This game will be available to watch online. Details will be added Wednesday if not before.

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Wow – well worth the money. Well worth the headline on the front of Koptalk.coN.

Has someone had words with him about his hosting of illegal videos and clips? It would seem so, he’s now using third party file-hosting services. These services are full of ads, so his claims of ad-free services for the £30 need to be amended. We’ve got this one linked to from the front page – “Video & Audio Liverpool v Galatasaray – PRE-MATCH TRAINING” for which he thanks “Paul”, whoever he might be. Certainly not one of his member’s usernames.

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LFC v Galatasaray – pre-match training (VIDEO)
#1656296 – Tue Sep 26 2006 01:34 PM Reply Quote

Thanks to Paul for sending us this brief link –>> http://www.bigupload.com/d=9198A378

Although the link is fairly brief, I’ve no idea how brief the clip is. I’ve given up trying to download it. The site makes you wait thirty seconds, then asks you to type a code in, then tells you the site’s full, makes you wait thirty seconds, asks you for another code, and around in circles we go. For THIRTY ENGLISH POUNDS I would expect to receive links to video footage that doesn’t require me to arse around with codes all morning. If Dunk had the rights to show this footage then he wouldn’t need to hid it on someone else’s server. And if he had the rights to show it he’d have the rights to advertise it as part of his thirty quid package.

Same again with his next headline – “Video & Audio Liverpool v Galatasaray – PRE-MATCH P.C.” – you get taken to someone else’s download site to play code-entering games for a couple of hours before you get your clip. And now it’s not “Paul” sending the clip on, fatso just happened to find it! Yes, he no doubt found it on Sky and downloaded it to his PC before adding it to the download site. I’m guessing so anyway because I don’t fancy playing the code-entry game really. Does anyone else think fatso looks a complete tool when he pretends like this?


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Liverpool v Galatasaray – PRE-MATCH P.C. – [VIDEO]
#1656360 – Tue Sep 26 2006 02:48 PM Reply

Just found this link –>> http://www.bigupload.com/d=821E70DA

Wait for the counter to click down from 30 seconds to view.

If it stops working please let us know and we’ll see if we can find you another one

If it started working I’d be happier. Seriously, for thirty quid I’d expect more. Why not admit it then Oldham – you shouldn’t be showing these and you know it. Perhaps a note to “bigupload.com” about your videos is in order too.

Next headline is “LFC News Finnan wants to make Anfield a fortress again” – nothing spectacular, same quotes as you’ll get for free elsewhere.

Then we have “LFC News Liverpool v Galatasaray – TRAINING PHOTOS”. This is what you get…


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Liverpool v Galatasaray – TRAINING PHOTOS
#1656265 – Tue Sep 26 2006 12:54 PM Reply

These are taken by one of our suppliers this morning so we’ve had to pay for these ones. They’re not as good as ours obviously















I don’t believe for one minute that you paid for them though Oldham, so I’ve posted them all on here for the benefit of whoever it is that really does own them. Unless you’ve moved them since I posted the article, frightened of getting a big bill from the owners.

Next headline – “Discussion Liverpool FC takeover” – sees a return for the oddball “keithy27″. He’s Dunk’s investment-talk-topic-starter. If there’s a need to talk investment, this strange character appears and posts some complete nonsense. Here are the first couple of posts in this wonderful “discussion” on a site that’s supposed to be mature but is in fact nothing more than, well, pretty boring actually.


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Liverpool FcTakeover
#1655878 – Mon Sep 25 2006 08:11 PM Reply Quote

I have just looked at the Takeover Panel website and Its there about Liverpoool at 500p with no name of the bidder. It maybe from the time of the statement why back in March, but I believe it is mor e than that as you look at the top of the table and it states today’s date of 25 September.

I believe there will be an announcement tommorow.
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Re: Liverpool FcTakeover [Re: keithy27]
#1655880 – Mon Sep 25 2006 08:15 PM Reply Quote

I don’t believe this is new data. If someone was looking at the books I’m sure it would be out in the open.

Liverpool cannot just turn up with a promise of money now. They need proof.

I just can’t see David Moores parting with the club.
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That was the best of that discussion too – it got much worse after that.

Then there’s what can only be described as a publicity stunt. In another attempt to try and win some credibility, Duncan decides to act like a dodgy local councillor and do a bit for charidee. I find this quite good fun actually – a charity gets some money, Dunk spends some, nobody actually cares about it any more. The headline said – “VIP offer Sportsman’s Charity Dinner – Be Our Guest – FREE!”. Tickets work out at just over one membership fee each, fatso claims to have paid for a table. A table seats 10 people, and he’s going to give away nine seats, taking one for himself (or Steve if he bottles out of it.) Until we find out what the catch is (like has he actually paid for the seats or been given them?) we’ll enjoy knowing that it cost him £320 quid, or nearly 11 memberships. That’s pretty much guaranteed to empty the coffers for him now, because he’s not had 11 new members this month yet.

Even more fun is the fact that before that draw closes our username will have been added. It might already be on there in fact, but best I say as little as possible for now. There’s so few of us left I’m surprised he’s not worked out which member I am yet. I’ve left enough clues.

Here’s what he says about his little stunt…


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Sportsman’s Charity Dinner – Be Our Guest!
#1655533 – Mon Sep 25 2006 02:19 PM Reply Quote

Ok this is the drill…

EVENT:

A charity Sportsman’s Dinner to take place on October 19th in the Marquee Suite at Goodison Park. Tickets are £32 each (you pay nothing!). The night includes a four course meal, entertainment from guest speakers Alan Kennedy and Dave Watson plus a top comedian.

AVAILABILITY:

I (KOPTALK) have booked a table to support the event. 9 Gold Club members are invited to attend. A draw will take place to decide the 9. The draw will be made this weekend by my son Lil Robbie (6).

TO ENTER:

Simply reply to this thread stating that you would like to be included. You MUST make sure you are available for the 19th October.

THE CHARITY:

The event is in aid of Zöe’s Place Children’s Hospice which is based in West Derby, Liverpool. They provide respite and palliative care for infants between the ages of 0 and 5 with life limiting or life threatening conditions.

The hospice does not receive any statutory funding and relies purely on initatives such as the Sportsman’s Dinner to meet annual running costs in excess of £650,000.

www.zoes-place.org.uk

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So there you have it then, full details of- oh hang on, he forgot to add a bit. The worst bit…


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Re: Sportsman’s Charity Dinner – Be Our Guest! [Re: Dunk]
#1655544 – Mon Sep 25 2006 02:30 PM Reply Quote

Either myself or Steve will be there for a night of food, drink, memories and comedy. Hopefully for you lot it will be Steve

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Back to the enticements to the streets covered in cow-pats and we’ve this headline: “LFC News Defender selected for international duty”

Typical Koptalk. Why say the player’s name when you can just say “Defender” and get the click? He used to do this all the time when he was allowed on NewsNow, and he can’t resist it even now. So, what does “Defender selected…” mean?


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Agger selected for international duty
#1655779 – Mon Sep 25 2006 06:49 PM Reply

Liverpool defender Daniel Agger has been selected for international duty by Denmark.

Why not say that then? It’s been well-documented on here that Oldham is not blessed with intelligence, and this ploy smacks of complete thickness. A user sees a headline like that on Newsnow and they’ll click out of curiosity. Personally I always found it frustrating that clicking a News Now headline took so long to bring up the page you wanted, and that it brought it up in another window in a size not chosen by me, so I rarely used it. However if I did I didn’t mind clicking if the cost was just a 30-second wait to see the article in an odd-sized window. Thirty seconds is acceptable for the sake of finding out the defender’s name. 30 quid isn’t. You are not going to get your credit card out for such things, but fat Dunk is too thick to see that.

Talking of thick former residents of Scarborough using tactics that won’t work to draw people into their crappy pay-site, he does it again. “LFC News Striker selected for international duty” takes you to this -


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Bellamy selected for international duty
#1655522 – Mon Sep 25 2006 02:05 PM Reply

Liverpool striker Craig Bellamy has been named in the Wales squad for their Euro 2008 qualifiers against Slovakia and Cyprus.

Why not say that? Instead of clicking your links and paying thirty quid though people go to the likes of News Now or Google News and find the news elsewhere. And they don’t go back to the pathetic remains of Koptalk.coN. There I go again helping the owner of the site struggling to stay alive like a beached whale.

Another tactic is competitions. As far as we can tell all Koptalk competitions end as either 1. nobody wins and the competition dies out, 2. one of Dunk’s aliases wins, 3. a real person wins but never sees the prize. I’ve seen no proof that says that any real person has received any of Dunk’s competition prizes. NOT ONE. So we get this and we’re expecting it to fall to an alias again, if it doesn’t die out – “Competition WIN a multi-satellite receiver – ROUND 2″


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WIN a multi-satellite receiver – ROUND 2
#1641683 – Tue Sep 12 2006 10:31 PM Reply

To enter, all you have to do is predict the outcome of Liverpool v Tottenham. All the correct entries proceed to round 3 and so on until we have a winner.

Reply to this thread before 12.45pm UK Time on Saturday 23rd with one of the following:

Liverpool Win
Draw
Tottenham Win

Only the people that won from round one can enter (listed below)

robertomarsh
Kop_5
DeeTheDog
revo
vavavoom
champs_five
dsimcock
Clocker

If you are not on the list and you think you should be please email steve @ koptalk.com

Top tip: Keep an eye out for dsimcock.

Again, thinking it will actually serve some kind of positive purpose for him, fatty gives us this wonderful headline – “LFC News Defender selected for international duty”. Hang on – haven’t we had that one once? No, this is a different “defender”. Same headline, different story…


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Finnan selected for international duty
#1655517 – Mon Sep 25 2006 01:58 PM Reply

Republic of Ireland manager Steve Staunton has named his 25-man squad for next month’s Euro 2008 qualifiers against Cyprus and Czech Republic.

Liverpool defender Steve Finnan is included while Under-21 international Paul McShane (West Brom) is promoted to the seniors.

So if after all of that proof of just how poor the Koptalk Member site is you still aren’t sure, here’s a bit more evidence to help you to decide. First of all Dunk’s policy on his customers. If you paid a few years back for a lifetime membership of his pay-site he doesn’t want you any more. So he’s changed the name of his forum and binned you. If you join today as a gold club member don’t be at all surprised to find yourself binned after six months. Koptalk change their rules all the time, and rarely give refunds.


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Re: Insider forum [Re: RedRum1]
#1655586 – Mon Sep 25 2006 03:19 PM Reply


Quote:

I had a post about the insider section deleted for what ever reason. I was just wondering where the insider forum is now located as I can’t see it on the main indx

One of the mods closed it before I could answer.

We’ve been posting announcements for weeks that we were going to ease off on koptalk.com and close off koptalk.org to concentrate our time on the members only.

We stopped new Insider sign-ups a while back. Existing and new members were mainly using the Gold Club forums and the Insiders were getting left out. Rather than have two features, we decided to concentrate on just the one.

To take the site forward we want to concentrate more on quality than quantity and attract more mature members rather than kids (apart from Steve ).

The idea – as I said for years – was that one day we would have a very select community to concentrate on. We were struggling to keep up with the free site and free forums etc and we wanted to concentrate on here where it’s ad free and more mature.

Any questions, just drop us an email to steve@koptalk.com

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Stopped new Insider sign-ups “a while back”? Don’t you mean about a fortnight ago? Remember, you were still offering both Insider and Gold Club memberships then with a special offer – cash in an envelope through the post got you a tenner off because nobody needs to know you sent it. Surely you’ve not lost track of time so much?

“Struggling to keep up with the free site” = ran out of members completely.

More comments on the fatso about why he’s had to trim back from two levels of membership on each of the free site and the pay site (four in all) to just one level. Nothing to do with the fact that he’s only got about 150 people actually bothering to be his members, no sir no way…


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Re: Chill [Re: Jimthered]
#1654885 – Sun Sep 24 2006 05:48 PM Reply Quote

LOL. We’re only having one member site now. We haven’t taken new Insider memberships for a while as it was causing confusion (having 2 features) and most GC members post more up here so it was making things a bit stupid for us. We want a totally ad-free site with a mature audience. This is our aim. Once we get this part of the changes sorted, we’ll upgrade the forum software and roll out our new plans/ideas
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Re: Chill [Re: Sean_Ell_Eff_Cee]
#1654889 – Sun Sep 24 2006 05:50 PM Reply Quote


Quote:

I’d been thinking the same the past hour or so. If Gold members shouldn’t be involved in Insider stuff it’d be quite disappointing (albeit myself being less often in the Chill Out room, it’s always a welcome chill out lol)

There is no Insider. We’re having just one member site. We’re upgrading the annual Insider members into here and over the coming weeks we will be rolling out our new ideas etc

I’m confident that having one site rather than a two-tiered site will benefit us all
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I’m confident too about it Duncan. I reckon we’ll be rid of the last few members from Koptalk before long thanks to this strategy. There’s a much more concentrated audience now for the next time someone has an announcement to make. I really like this quote too -


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Re: Chill [Re: Jimthered]
#1654899 – Sun Sep 24 2006 05:59 PM Reply Quote

Now we’re totally ad free. No banners, no pop-ups in every forum. This will see a massive drop in ad-revenue and it’s suicidal in a way but I prefer a nice fast site for all.

I wonder if your ad people banned you from their services due to your hits being so low? Or did you breach their terms and conditions? Either way it’s about time you dumped those ads, they have been one of the worst things about your site for years. After the bullshit, the lies, the attempts at smearing LFC and its players and the support of the S*n amongst others.

One other thing I didn’t mention in the last paragraph – copyright theft. Why not just link to this story along with a little snippet? It’s what all reputable websites and publications would do. Koptalk is a long way short of being reputable though –


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Rafa interview from official site
#1656410 – Tue Sep 26 2006 03:41 PM Reply Quote

Liverpoolfc.tv: You must be delighted to go into this game on the back of two victories and also two clean sheets….

Rafael Benitez: It’s important to win games and to keep clean sheets. Having a clean sheet is an idea, not an obsession, but it’s good for us to see the goals being stopped at one end and the strikers scoring at the other.

the rest of the article was here, I’ve removed it in respect of LFC’s copyright. Click the link to read it.
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N153571060926-1438.htm

There’s no justification at all for that piece of blatant theft. No justification at all – and he’s stealing from our club too!

Of course he has to cut and paste stuff from elsewhere because he’s too lazy to do any work himself. Take this section. Remember the “Scouting Reports” section he started when he claimed he was well in with Liverpool’s scouts? How they’d let him into their secrets so that he could tell his members? How we laughed. He still thinks someone might believe him, but he’s not made it up yet…


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Report Pending….
#1656571 – Tue Sep 26 2006 08:55 PM Reply Quote

Report pending…

The question now is: Will Koptalk last long enough for that report to actually get made up?

We doubt it.

How Does Koptalk Rank Against Your Favourite LFC Site?

by Rupert Insider

This article is about ranking Koptalk’s traffic relative to some other sites (a) to test its long standing claim to be “No. 1 LFC Supporters’ Site” and (b) to chart its decline and fall.

Koptalk ranks no higher than 8th, maybe lower when all the stats are in.

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Chart: Koptalk versus the LFC Official Site

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1. Clearly, Koptalk ranks far below the LFC Official Site, which is the only other site which charges a subscription.

Koptalk also appears to rank far below the following free sites:

2. Shankly Gates

3. RAWK (Red and White Kop)

and marginally below:

4. Kopalk-Insider at WordPress (this blog)

5. YNWA,

6.The Liverpool Way (TLW)

7. EST1892

and Koptalk is about level with:

8. Talklfc * But see the comment below about Talklfc’s higher ranking than Koptalk in normal times.

There are a number of other small sites. I did not check them all. Koptalk is only slightly higher than those I did check.

And Koptalk is still falling.

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This article is more by way of starting discussion than expressing a firm judgement. Comments from the better-informed are welcome.

The statistics are taken from the ALEXA organisation. They relate only to users who have the ALEXA bar installed. So they are not comprehensive.

It’s been suggested that the more technically-aware user is more likely not to allow the ALEXA bar.

It’s possible that any given site has more than the average number of users who are without the bar, in which case their results will be under-reported. Likewise, those with more than an average number with the bar will be over-reported.

The ALEXA claim is that, even with these limitations, the statistics are a representative sample of what’s going on.

*Since posting the above, one of the founder’s of Talkfc said that normally it has 60,000 unique visitors a month and clearly ranks higher than Koptalk, but visitors have been unable to log on for some time due to technical problems. A new site is being built on a dedicated server after which it expects to resume its normal ranking. This being the case, Koptalk would be no higher than 9th.

EST 1892 is a few months old and Six Crazy Minutes has an even shorter history. I’m told there is usually a lag of a month or so before the ALEXA stats are recorded (and that applies to this blog, as well).

Some have interpreted the full ALEXA figures to show that YNWA, for example, has a higher rating. YNWA is a free site but has a policy of limiting membership. I’ll leave it to the better-informed to comment further.

The 12-months ALEXA stats for Koptalk show that it was even lower than where it is now in October 2005 and that it had a steep rise in December 2005 continuing into January 2006.

I’m told this is because a year ago Koptalk was divided between several addresses and Oldham brought them altogether on one server only in December-January. It’s only since then we have been able to get a comprehensive ALEXA view of all his hits, and test his claims to be the No. 1 LFC site.

Oldham repeatedly claims that this blog drives viewers to his site, as does critical comments on other sites. And we know that many of his current members are there only to watch the “car crash” as they wait for their subscription to expire. So deduct a suitable number of the Koptalk stats for us, and other morbid curiosity-seekers.

Finally, as I understand it, these charts show hits, not separate visits to a site. So a site that is designed to cause its visitors to jump around from place to place, opening or refreshing pages as they go – as Koptalk is – will have higher number of hits than a simpler site.

I would have published more charts but either Alexa is limiting me to two or the WordPress software has stopped working again. In any case, I give up!

I’ve compared a selection of sites from those listed in the right column on this blog. If you would like to check my listing or complete the list and find Koptalk’s final placing (no higher than 8th) compare other sites and see their charts. To do that just add their full url to the ALEXA comparison box at the web page given below. If you notice anything interesting please make a comment.

Koptalk versus ?-chart (fill in your site name) found here:

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=3m&size=medium&compare_sites=&y=r&url=koptalk.com#top

Koptalk “Insider” Video at Melwood

by Andy Insider and Rupert Insider


Andys Bit

This is the Koptalk Video link of the team training at Melwood.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=d2ZW2JO2fKM

The close-ups notwithstanding, you can tell their taken with zoom lens from over the fence by the sound of the traffic passing and the off-camera voice of scouser taking snaps next to Oldham. In fact he says “I’m here every day” and “they must know you by now, Dunk”. At the end of the video Oldham gives us a glimpse of the chatty scouser hauling the purple wheelie-bin.

There’s been a fair bit of discussion about the legalities of poking cams over the fence at Melwood. The following might of interest. They are two excerpts from a legal guide for UK-based photographers.

The full guide can be found at:

http://www.sirimo.co.uk/media/UKPhotographersRights.pdf (you need Acrobat to open it).

“A person who enters onto private property without permission commits a trespass, as does anyone who ‘interferes’ with the property. Interference could be something as minor as climbing on the landowner’s wall to take a photograph over the wall or resting a camera on a fence.”

also

“Even where property is open to entry by the public in general, as in the case of most business premises, the owner or occupier has the right to demand that a photographer cease taking photographs and the right to demand that he leave the premises.”

Rupert’s Bit

If the video glimpse of the purple wheelie-bin is too fast for you, or your distracted by the fine tenor voice of the scouse lad as he hauls it away, here’s a photo. It’s copyright of Krap Talk (2004) so you know its authentic – untouched by the Koptalk Photo Shop.

http://www.kraptalk.com/news/melwood290606.shtml

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It must be comforting for members of the Kotpalk Insider to see the actual hallowed ground of the Insider Enclosure at Melwood. (The big guy with three heads on the left is not Oldham – its three young scousers minding his place on the wheelie-bin for a quid. That’s how important it is to him).

All joking aside, I quite enjoyed his little video, especially since I never paid 30 quid for it. But I don’t think I want to see too many more disjointed and foreshortened shots of barely recognisable characters in the distance kicking their balls about.

And I couldn’t really relax because I kept worrying about Dunk, the wheelie-bin, the cheekie scouser and the force of gravity.

We know Dunk doesn’t trust the wee “scallies” who blackmail him into paying them for minding his car on the rare occasions he visits Anfield. So why trust them at Melwood? If I were him I’d tow the wheelie-bin to the Pier Head behind the Mercedes. He could get his contact at the Crowne Plaza concierge desk to bring it up to his room on the lift.

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What a topsy turvey world is Oldham’s!

Just a couple of months ago, Rick Parry was begging him to come over to Anfield for an urgent meeting about something Oldham had and Parry wanted; somebody else had given him exclusive tapes of Crouch talking to the S**; Steve Morgan’s people were consulting him about boardroom battles; the L4 Group in the USA and the Kraft family were constantly on the transatlantic blower keeping him up-to-date about their investment plans; he couldn’t get foreign agents and world-class players out of his hair with their confidential messages about transfer negotiations and he had to go about incognito in Liverpool to avoid the attention of LFC players who insisted on giving him the dirt on their teammates.

Steve Gerrard was a particular nuisance – always wanting to gab – and as for Dalglish – it was just as well he couldn’t speak English.

The suits were clambering to give Kotpalk official status at all LFC press conferences and other non-public events for the 2006-2007 season and his phone never stopped ringing with insider information from his army of Anfield, Melwood and Academy insiders.

And if that wasn’t enough, his real esate agents and financiers were racing ahead with the purchase of Chris Waddles 300,000 pounds house near Melwood, a downtown hotel in Liverpool and several vehicles. It was all one big happy whirl.

And now? Well look again at the photo above and the video.

The nonsense at the end of the website

Koptalk owner Duncan Wideboy Oldham surpassed his own world record for bullshit yesterday. If Hughie Greene’s clapometer was converted to a crapometer it would be destroyed by this. According to some reports we’ve had, he’s been staying at the Crowne Plaza this week. Despite the fact he’s got use of his new place next door to Melwood, he’s decided to stay at a hotel that costs probably around £90 a night. Maybe Chris Waddle’s turfed him out. You’d forgotten about his Chris Waddle story hadn’t you? That would have tested the crapometer to its limits, but it wouldn’t have broken it. So, connected to the net from his room at the Crowne Plaza (not the Koptalk Plaza, which is a part of that earlier attempt at bullshit history), he logs on to his failing forum as Dunken-Stein.

It’s time for some investment bullshit…

ST3 KopTalk Editor
Reged: Sep 12 2003
Posts: 8191
Investment Update
#1652809 – Fri Sep 22 2006 11:05 AM Reply Quote

Dunk asked me to post a quick message.

He spoke to a couple of people yesterday overseas regarding potential investment and they were not convinced that the club have any firm offers.

They believe that the headline and exclusive reports in the Liverpool Daily Post earlier this week were fed to them by the club to get something in the news.

While it is obvious that Steve Morgan is interested in investing, he hasn’t made a fresh bid, neither has L4. Overseas sources have told KOPTALK that there is a strong possibility that Bob Kraft has been in talks with the club.

Just after midnight Dunk received a call from a concierge friend at a top Liverpool hotel to get himself down there as there were some key figures of possible interest.

To cut a long story short Dunk was at the hotel until 4am talking to a couple of individuals who he had been introduced to. These guys were brokers from a major London based company. They are meeting Rick Parry this morning before heading to Leeds to meet officials connected to Leeds United (no idea why).

Although they are currently talking to Liverpool Football Club about investment the main man gave the impression that nothing would come of todays meeting.

Dunk has a massive hangover as he didn’t get to bed until 6am so he apologises for his no show this morning. He will be on later today.
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And with that, my work is done. No longer do I need to endure podcasts from the odious thief who wants to see Liverpool and its players suffer. No more do I need to risk reading a story he’s stolen from The S*n. In that piece of bullshit he’s done more damage to what was left of his credibility than I could ever do. Just show that to anyone who wants to know whether it’s worth paying to join Koptalk. You can read as much fiction as you like in the library for free. Why bother paying thirty notes for it?

The blog could close down now – thick Dunk is doing our work for us all by himself. Unless that was his idea!

Anyone who reads that post and believes it was

a) written by Steve

and

b) true

…needs help. Seriously, you need to get yourself down to the doctors for some medication and a chat.

Dunk hasn’t got a hangover – he’s sitting at his laptop with egg and beans on his chin after eating his room-service full English. He’s the one typing that message, not Steve.

I apologise for insulting anyone who reads this and hadn’t realised – he’s good at pulling the wool over people’s eyes, it’s his main skill. It’s the only skill he’s got in fact, after leaving school a failure he’s spent the last sixteen years surviving through theft and threats of violence. Panorama should look at him, he likes a bung. If you did believe him then I seriously recommend you go through everything you’ve done for the last 12 months. You’ll find that the shares you bought in the company selling rocking horse shit are worthless. The “just a friend” your wife goes for weekends away with is more than a friend. Try to stop being so gullible.

Let’s for a moment pretend that the story was true. WHY WOULD DUNK LOG ON AS “ST3″ AND PRETEND HE HAD A HANGOVER? I’m not bothering to explain how we know that “ST3″ is Dunk, we just do.

Dunk’s far too dopey to realise how crap his bullshit is. He thinks that spouting this sort of shit will win over the few who were sitting on the (Melwood) fence about whether or not to trust him. Get off the fence people, he’s a big, fat, liar.

I apologise to those who were actually only pretending to believe him, those who are waiting for their memberships to run out and are watching him fall apart. Like the guests at The Restaurant at the End of The Universe in the Hitch Hikers’ “trilogy” watching the universe fall apart as they eat a nice (but expensive) meal, a lot of Koptalk’s members are making sure they get their value for money. If your name follows in this post now thanking Dunk for his hard work you should be ashamed (if you’re not one of the diners), but we’ll forgive you. Most of us have fallen for his nonsense at some point.

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Welcome to Koptalk.coN

Dunk’s probably in his element that two of his favourite teams have visited Anfield in the space of just days.

After deciding to hide most of his site from the onlooking eyes of those who are investigating him (as if a thirty quid fee would stop them) there’s little need to tell you what happens at Koptalk in many ways. However we don’t want anyone hoodwinked into joining, so let’s see what he’s saying on the ten-grand-a-year server that hosts about a dozen pages.

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