Red Del still supporting Fat Del

UPDATE: After publishing this article we found “Red_Del” had set up his site so that anyone accessing his videos by clicking a link here would be redirected to Disney instead. Proof that Red_Del knows about the blog, and therefore knows all about Duncan’s attacks on LFC, its supporters and its players. He’s approving of Duncan’s support of the Sun and Fatty’s slurs against so much that is Red. He calls himself a Red too. To get the videos, and use up his bandwidth, instead of clicking the link, copy it and then paste it into your browser’s address bar. Anyway, the original post…
Looks like we upset “Red_Del” (not Fat Del) recently with our posting of his links. He’s not happy at all. He tries to use the “fellow Reds” line too -

Red_Del Gold Member
Reged: May 30 2004
Posts: 598
Loc: Right Now? Here!
Re: The Story Of The Kop [Re: stuartb]
#1590609 – Sat Aug 05 2006 09:06 PM
Yes, due to unwarranted and unnecessary attention from other places, they childishly thought it would be funny to deliberately repost my links and then suggested that they be promulgated all over the net and I took a massive hit on my bandwidth, which I cannot afford, so thanks for that if you are reading this, you know who you are.

As to why, I have no idea, although I believe it is due to certain other places having issues with this site, which has nothing to do with me, I just do what I do for my son (who is abroad in the army) and I share the links here, quite easy to check that I have GC member status, which I also paid for, and have been here for over 2 years, and I have an E-Season ticket from the offal, and certain other things from the OS, what I do with my money should only be of concern to me (and my wife!)

And as for threats to “grass me up”, why oh why would a fellow LFC fan do that? I just cannot comprehend such behaviour from another member of the Red family.

Anyway over, today’s user & password is:

User : RedDel
Password: KopTalkMember

It might change at short notice as I will now have to keep an eye on the stats to check where visitors are being redirected from.

As usual, the vocal minority always spoil it for the majority.

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http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Liverpool-Shirts-For-Charity

Let’s have another look at what “Red_Del” just said – a replay if you like.

He starts with, “Yes, due to unwarranted and unnecessary attention from other places, they childishly thought it would be funny to deliberately repost my links and then suggested that they be promulgated all over the net and I took a massive hit on my bandwidth, which I cannot afford, so thanks for that if you are reading this, you know who you are.” Yes Del, we know who we are. We also know who you are. You are the person that is allowing the owner of Koptalk to keep going just that little bit longer with his Gold Club promotions than he might have been otherwise. You know about the blog (you admit you get referrer stats) so why are you still working for Duncan Oldham? You don’t have to be paid to work for someone (ask Steve) – but you are clearly making money for Duncan Oldham.

Can you read “Red_Del”? I assume so, so this next bit is as good as Oldham for a lie – “As to why, I have no idea, although I believe it is due to certain other places having issues with this site, which has nothing to do with me,” It has got something to do with you “Red_Del”. We don’t want you helping Oldham. Email me – koptalkinsider at gmail.com – if you really don’t know why. Otherwise, you are as bad as the Sun-supporting Fowler-bashing ticket-touting scumbag himself. “I just do what I do for my son (who is abroad in the army)” Well for the sake of your son stop supporting the foriegner-hating, copyright-stealing, LFC-attacking Oldham in this way.

“…quite easy to check that I have GC member status, which I also paid for, and have been here for over 2 years, and I have an E-Season ticket from the offal, and certain other things from the OS, what I do with my money should only be of concern to me (and my wife!)” I’m not concerned really whether you are paid or not, or get a free membership or not. Dunk rarely pays anyone he promises he’ll pay anyway. I’m not particularly bothered that you break the law and send stuff to your son, nor am I bothered a great deal that you want to take a huge risk and put your name to the publication of the illegal videos. That’s your choice. But as long as you provide a service to Oldham that makes him able to sell even one more subscription then you are a target for us. If the way to stop you doing this is to keep your bandwidth bills high to a level where your wife is complaining then that’s what we’ll do. Stop supporting the Sun-lover, we stop bugging you. Simple really. And I don’t make anyone join in with this – they choose to.
Explain to me (by email if you dare, or in a comment below if you are feeling really brave), what the “Red family” do for each other, and for their club. “And as for threats to “grass me up”, why oh why would a fellow LFC fan do that? I just cannot comprehend such behaviour from another member of the Red family.” READ THE BLOG. EMAIL ME IF YOU STILL DON’T KNOW. It’s Oldham we want to stop. We are managing it too, slowly but surely, he’s starting to struggle. Not just me, thousands upon thousands of Liverpool supporters want to see him stopped. They want to see an end to him ripping people off, an end to him selling tickets at prices a tout would be ashamed of, of selling merchandise that’s clearly fake at inflated prices, of trying to imply that Liverpool football club are a corrupt club. He’s tried to ruin Robbie Fowler’s Liverpool career once, and threatened to do the same to Peter Crouch in the summer. And you are supporting him, feeding him what he needs, so that he can draw more unwary Reds in.

You may already have been grassed up Del – you aren’t exactly sounding very bothered about it. Ask Dunk – why doesn’t he host those clips instead of you? He claims he’s loaded, he claims he’s got enough coming in to pay (depending on which lie you fall for) between 8 and 10 grand a year for a service that most people could get for a lot less than ONE grand. He’s making money off your efforts – so why not ask him to save you a bit of money and a bit of risk? And as for being grassed up – wait until the Premier League and Sky TV are the victims of your theft. Or better still, don’t wait – just stop.

As for the username and password – “It might change at short notice as I will now have to keep an eye on the stats to check where visitors are being redirected from.” – well we’ll just have to make sure we keep announcing it won’t we? In fact I’d not be surprised if some of our readers didn’t put the updated password into the comments in the blog. And if readers of the blog want to stop Del from seeing where you got the link from, copy and paste it into your browser’s address bar instead. Then he won’t know where you got the link from.

“As usual, the vocal minority always spoil it for the majority.” – Yes. Duncan Wideboy Oldham is the minority that has spoiled it for the majority. In so many ways.
And here’s the rest of your videos…

Red_Del
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Reged: May 30 2004
Posts: 598
Loc: Right Now? Here!

LFC Vs Chelsea – Community Shield 2006 – Match Download
#1602968 – Mon Aug 14 2006 04:29 AM Reply Quote

OK, here is the highlights package: >>HILIGHTS<< http://reddel1003.notlong.com/

User: RedDel40
Password: KopTalkMember

Case sensitive, copy & paste if necessary.

Save to disk, play with favourite media player, one I recommend is VLC from >>HERE<<

Not high quality, but good enough for PC Playback using VLC.

If anyone does download, then a simple reply thanks here will suffice

You could also 5 ball me, or just leave feedback, all responses are appreciated, even negative ones

And please, usual rules for my KT forum links, No-one, and I mean NO-ONE, is allowed to repost or share my links for these files with other websites, without my express permission, that is what torrents are for, so by all means download & then share as appropriate. If I get billed for bandwidth, then I will not do them, and everyone loses out.

And lastly, enjoy

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Red_Del
Gold Member

Reged: May 30 2004
Posts: 598
Loc: Right Now? Here!

LFC Vs Chelsea – Community Shield 2006 – Match Download
#1602968 – Mon Aug 14 2006 04:29 AM Reply Quote

OK, here is the highlights package: >>HILIGHTS<< http://reddel1003.notlong.com/

User: RedDel40
Password: KopTalkMember

Case sensitive, copy & paste if necessary.

Save to disk, play with favourite media player, one I recommend is VLC from >>HERE<<

Not high quality, but good enough for PC Playback using VLC.

If anyone does download, then a simple reply thanks here will suffice

You could also 5 ball me, or just leave feedback, all responses are appreciated, even negative ones

And please, usual rules for my KT forum links, No-one, and I mean NO-ONE, is allowed to repost or share my links for these files with other websites, without my express permission, that is what torrents are for, so by all means download & then share as appropriate. If I get billed for bandwidth, then I will not do them, and everyone loses out.

And lastly, enjoy

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Red_Del
Gold Member

Reged: May 30 2004
Posts: 598
Loc: Right Now? Here!

LFC Vs MH – Match Download
#1598178 – Thu Aug 10 2006 04:39 PM Reply Quote

For those that didn’t get to see it, here yer go then:

http://RedDel40.notlong.com

User: RedDel40
Password: KopTalkMember

Case sensitive, copy & paste if necessary.

If anyone can do me a http referer script, I’d be most grateful

Save to disk, play with favourite media player, one I recommend is VLC from >>HERE<<

Not high quality, but good enough for PC Playback using VLC.

If anyone does download, then a simple reply thanks here will suffice

And please, usual rules for my KT forum links, No-one, and I mean NO-ONE, is allowed to repost my links for these files with other websites, without my express written permission, That is what torrents are for, so by all means download & then share as appropriate. If I get billed for bandwidth, then I will not do them, and everyone loses out.

And lastly, enjoy

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More on Oldham’s lies about Fowler

We were sent this article by email. It’s from an old issue of The Liverpool Way fanzine, from around 2001 / 2002. It talks about Duncan Oldham and how he lied about Robbie Fowler, how he had a go at Chris Bascombe, how he stole a photo from another site then tried to sue the person he stole from. Remember, this article was written four or five years ago, and somehow Oldham has been able to continue with his lies and his scams ever since. And as we saw in the summer with his treatment of Crouch and his words about Parry, he’s still happy to slur and abuse Liverpool players or officials to try and get more hits.

Last but by no means least is Duncan Oldham. Anyone who has access to the internet will almost certainly know of this individual. Those of you who don’t have access to it won’t have a clue, so allow me to give you a brief rundown on who he is. He lives in Scarborough, and he runs an unofficial LFC website which is responsible for regular doses of bullshit and anti-Robbie Fowler stories. He’s also tried his hand at several little money making scams through his site, and is someone who I would not piss on if he were on fire. I’m not going to name his website here because I’m not going to give it the plug that would make him happy. If you’re a regular on the net you’ll know it, and if you’re not then you don’t need to know it, so I won’t be mentioning it here.

I could fill the entire fanzine with gripes about Oldham and the way he runs his website, but I’ll try to just keep this to a minimum. The main reason for my inclusion of Oldham in this list stems from a ‘news’ item that appeared on his website about Fowler. Oldham seems to have a real axe to grind with Robbie, and barely a day seems to go by without some sort of story about Fowler appearing on his site. Apparently, most of his ‘exclusives’ come from a pal of his who runs a bar at the Albert Dock, which is a regular haunt of the players. In fact, Oldham and his buddy were indirectly responsible for the ‘Fowler/McManaman drinking storm’ before the England game. You know, when they were out until the wee small hours (it was actually half nine, I know this because my cousin was with them, she’s a good friend of Macca’s kid brother) and had consumed all of about two drinks before heading home?

Anyway, Oldham, under the guise of defending Stevie G (who the papers had slated for being out in Southport a full five days before a game), reported that two other England squad members – one a current reds player – had also been out on the ale that night. Now even a tabloid hack is smart enough to figure out who he was referring to, and lo and behold, the next day it’s picked up by all the papers, who up until then knew nothing about it. It provided them with a nice little follow up to the Stevie G nonsense they’d printed the day before. I think it’s only right that Robbie knows who ‘shopped’ him.

But that’s not even the ‘news’ item I was referring to. That came a few days later, when on October 8th (just before the Grimsby game), Oldham came up with his latest (and possibly the worst) piece of shit stirring, claiming Robbie didn’t have a chest infection, and that he didn’t report back for training because he’d been on a bender after the England game. It was completely untrue, and Robbie should have sued over it. If there was even the slightest element of truth in that story, you can bet your arse that the nationals would have picked up on it. The thing is though, this was so fictional that even the likes of the Daily Mail wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole.

Oldham and his mates seem to have a vendetta against Fowler, but this really was taking things too far. As he likes to inform us all on a regular basis, his website gets millions of hits from all over the world, and many of the visitors are gullible enough to believe every word Oldham tells them. With that in mind, I believe he has certain responsibilities, and printing shite like what he did about Fowler was a total f_cking disgrace. Robbie’s reputation was damaged by that article, as not everyone who read it will know the actual truth. In his Football Echo column, Chris Bascombe slammed the article written by Oldham, and set the record straight regarding Robbie. He wrote “I was sent an article this week by a reader which appeared on one unofficial Liverpool website which I won’t name because it doesn’t deserve the free ad it probably wants (Okay, I will. Apparently it’s called ******* or ******* or something like that.) They wrote an outrageous lie which dared to suggest Robbie’s absence on tuesday wasn’t because he was ill.”
There you have it, ‘an outrageous lie’, so anyone who read that knows the score, but sadly few people outside Merseyside will have had the chance to see it. Mind you, Oldham saw it, and responded to it in an editorial on his site. “I would like to thank local journo Chris Bascombe for a little mention recently. Obviously those of you outside the city may not know who Chris is. Well thanks to the internet’s global ability, even a local journo can get a mention on the other side of the world. Although saying that, I believe Chris contributes to the official LFC website so his articles may be already known to you if you can’t buy local supplements etc, admittedly his contributions tow the official line but anyone who gives the site a plug no matter how small will do for us”

Anyone seeing that who hadn’t read the article in the Pink Echo could be forgiven for thinking that Chris had given Oldham’s site a glowing endorsement. There’s no mention of the fact that Chris was criticising his site for an ‘outrageous lie’, and the whole thing smacked of unbelievable arrogance and smugness, two ‘qualities’ which Mr Oldham has in abundance. This lowlife didn’t even have the decency to say “I’m sorry, I got it wrong about Robbie and I owe him an apology,” and instead used Chris B’s words to slyly endorse his own site.

The Americans should give this prick a job, as with him on board they’d have no trouble winning the propaganda war (mind you, his views on freedom of speech would make him more at home in the Taliban camp, but more of that later). Had he apologised over what he had written about Fowler, then I wouldn’t be writing about it now. I’ve been tempted to write a piece about Oldham for some time now, but I’ve been holding back for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, I didn’t want to give him any kind of recognition whatsoever, as it’s publicity that seems to make him happy. Secondly, I didn’t want to come across as being petty by slagging off a fellow supporter. There’s a part of me that feels a bit uneasy about doing it now, but I could hold back no longer. Put it this way, if the Daily Mail had written what he did, then everyone would have been up in arms about it, so why should it be different simply because it appeared on what is supposed to be a pro-LFC website? The fact that TLW has it’s own website also means that any criticism of another website could be seen as some sort of professional jealousy. No doubt that’s what Oldham will put it down to anyway.

Anyone who dares criticise the almighty Dunc must be jealous. He even says so on his own personal webpage (a sickening piece of self indulgence which has to be seen to be believed). So let me say right now, I am not in any way shape or form, jealous of Duncan Oldham. What is there to be jealous of? Being reviled by many of your fellow supporters is not something I aspire to achieve. He may well make a lot of money from his website, but at what cost? Am I jealous of the fact that he drives a nice new Mercedes? Actually, no. I’ve never been interested in cars and have never even bothered sending off for my provisional license, so what good is a Merc to me! Am I jealous of the fact that he is apparently making money hand over fist?

Not really no, because I look at what he does to make that money. Of course we’d all like to be making more money than what we are (if there’s any players reading this, then you’re excluded from that remark as you earn more than enough already!), but at the same time we have to be able to look at ourselves in the Mirror. Maybe Oldham can justify his actions to himself, but to me he is no better than the scumbags who peddle lies in the national tabloid press. In fact, he’s worse, because he does it under the masquerade of being a fan. I’ve sat by and watched his attempts to exploit LFC fans with his priority membership scheme, his ‘buy shares in *******.com’ scam, his selling of two season tickets on a £1 a minute phoneline competition and countless other rip offs. “If people are gullible enough to fall for it then it’s their own fault” I reasoned.

The Fowler story, and Oldham’s subsequent smugness over it was the last straw though. It was complete and utter bullshit and he had to know that considering his mate supposedly runs the place where they were meant to be boozing until the early hours. Of course, Bullshit is how he makes his living. Who could forget the Sol Campbell “Exclusive” last summer? Dunc informed us that Sol had flown into Speke airport by private jet, and was whisked away to a hotel on the outskirts of the city centre for talks with the reds. He promised to keep everyone up to date with Campbell’s movements as he negotiated his big money deal to move to Anfield.

What he didn’t tell people was that Parry and Houllier were both out of the country on other business that day, and that Campbell was actually in London finalising his move to Arsenal. Funny though, he never admitting to getting that one wrong either.

His comments about Chris Bascombe would have been laughable if they weren’t so shockingly arrogant. Chris can’t really respond to it, as I doubt if the Echo would allow him to get embroiled in a war of words with someone like Oldham, but there’s nothing to stop me from doing it. Oldham remarked that “thanks to the internet’s global ability, even a local journo can get a mention on the other side of the world”. Yeah, and a f_cking arsehole like you can make a damn good living through writing scurrilous stories without any foundation or truth in them.

Perhaps the most comical line of Oldham’s rant though, was: “admittedly his contributions tow the official line….” By ‘towing the official line’ I presume he means visiting Melwood to speak with the manager EVERY day and contacting the relevant people at the club before printing a story to make sure that it is true. Oldham sits there in his little f_cking empire in Scarborough, miles away from what’s going on at the club, yet has the nerve to have a go at someone who is as well informed about what’s going on at the club as it’s possible for any ‘outsider’ to be. What are Oldham’s credentials? What contacts does he have at the club?

He’s currently running a little scam called ‘the insider’, where for a nominal fee (about £15 I believe) he’ll send you updates on what’s happening behind the scenes. He claims to have players, ex players, secretarial staff at the club as well as local and national journalists supplying him with inside info. Naturally, he can’t name names, so you just have to take his word for it that these people will reveal all kinds of inside info to Lord Duncan.

The only player that has any affiliation with the website is Richie Partridge, and the club should really put a stop to that (if they haven’t already). And the mere idea that local and national journo’s would have any association with him is comical. There’s as much chance of Chris Bascombe becoming a blue as there is of him supplying info to Oldham, and I’m sure Chris McLoughlin knows the score too. The Post’s Andy Hunter is a blue and wouldn’t even have the faintest idea who Oldham is, and any national journo worth his salt would keep any decent stories for his own paper, he certainly wouldn’t be passing them on to someone else.

The whole thing stinks, and I just hope people can see through it. I had no time for this parasite even before his latest Fowler ‘attack’, but now I hold him beneath contempt. I know that he’ll be reading this, if he doesn’t buy it himself then no doubt one of his toadies will send him a copy. He’d love nothing better than to get his solicitors onto me over this – he’s quite partial to legal threats apparently.

A Norwegian mate of mine, Torbjorn Flatin (the editor of ‘The Kopite’), has first hand experience of Oldham’s legal threats. Torbjorn was having a browse at Oldham’s site one day when he came across a photo of Frode Kippe which looked familiar. It was familiar, because it was from the Norwegian reds’ site (www.liverpool.no) which Torby is involved with. What’s more, Torbjorn had actually taken the picture himself with his own camera! He contacted Oldham to politely ask him that if he was going to take photo’s from his site, could he at least credit them with it. He didn’t say he couldn’t use them, and he didn’t ask for any money. He just wanted his site to be credited for the photo. Oldham responded by saying that the photo wasn’t from www.liverpool.no, and then threatened legal action. When Torby told him that he himself had taken the photo, and he could prove it, suddenly the legal threats were dropped!!! The man is a real piece of work. The really sad part of all this is that I, like many others, used to really like his site. Now it simply disgusts me.

I’ve also recently found out that he’s registered the domain name liverpoolway.com, as well as raotl.com and ttwar.com amongst others. He claimed that he did it as a favour to us, and it was to stop the domain names falling into the wrong hands! He’s all heart isn’t he? The fact that when you type in those names you are directed to HIS website suggests otherwise however. I don’t even want the “.com” address, and he’s welcome to it. If he’s so desperate to get hits to his site that he’ll stoop to such levels, then I pity him. He won’t be happy about this article, because he seems to think he should be above criticism. Anyone who goes on his forums and dares to question any of his ‘news’ articles immediately has their posts deleted, and if they persist they are banned. These people were referred to as ‘scum’ in a recent editorial by Oldham. He also claims that “there’s no such thing as freedom of speech.” Not on your forums there isn’t, that’s for sure. He runs his forums with a level of oppression that would make the Taliban blush. One Norwegian red had his post deleted for the heinous crime of stating that TLW is a good website! Can’t have any praise for any other LFC sites now can we, eh Dunk? Unfortunately for Oldham though, he can’t control what goes on other forums or what goes in fanzines, and he is now being exposed for what he really is. If he doesn’t like it, tough shit.

That bit about Fowler not having a chest infection – a journalist who actually saw Robbie with his chest infection said not only was it true he had a chest infection, it was a bad chest infection, he could hardly breathe because of it, let alone train. To make a story up that one of your own team’s players was suffering with an alcohol problem to that extent is low if you’re only telling your lies to your own friends. For a website owner making a fortune from Liverpool FC and its supporters it’s as low as low can be. It really is time he was stopped.

* There’s a mention above about Oldham’s share scam. He tried to make money by selling shares in Koptalk. If anyone has any information, especially any copies of emails from then, or just recollections, please let me know. Don’t worry, I’ll not reveal your name to anyone, unless you ask me to. koptalk.insider at gmail.com.