"1892 Insider" - 1892.insider @ gmail.com
"Koptalk Outsider" - koptalk.outsider @ gmail.com
"Insider Insider" - Koptalk.Insider @ gmail.com
Most members of the “Insider” site will remember a poster by the name of “cricket69″. A lot of members even thought he was John “Digger” Barnes. To be fair, neither Dunk nor “cricket” ever confirmed or denied this, but it certainly gave “cricket” a bit of fun, and Dunk a way of using his “former players are members here” line.
He has no former or current players reading his site.
Dunk is paranoid these days as you know and so bans as many members each day as he gets new ones coming in. The banned members are not deleted though, they are kept on the database to keep the numbers looking good. He banned Tom recently, and thought he’d got away with it. He hadn’t, he lost a lot of members through that silly move. As for banning “cricket”, well that might upset a few of his Australian readers, the country where “cricket” now lives.
I’ll let “cricket” give his side of the story, in this email he sent to me and all of his Australian Reds contacts.
Hi
I am writing to you separately from my e-football business as I don’t really want to mix Forums on the web with any commercial activities I am involved in, I am sure you understand.
If you are a fan of Koptalk and have no issues with the way they work (and know about their exploitation of the good name of LFC), then you have no need to read any further.
I was a member of Koptalk for approx 8 years, maybe a bit longer. During that time I became a respected member of the ‘community’, my alias as I am sure you know was cricket69. I enjoyed it for many years, however it became apparent to me that the site didn’t have many (if any) real insiders, some posters including myself have contacts within Anfield but Dunk and his site is full of lies and inaccuracies, that was the reason I tried for a long time to be all authoritarian, I didn’t want people to start believing all the rubbish that was on there, most people joined the Insider in good faith I didn’t want them to read and believe rubbish that was being sprouted – in fact I still don’t.
I remember exactly when I turned against Dunk, it was in 2001 when we played Leeds in the FA Cup away, I got him tickets, but he didn’t pay up for months – I was out of pocket for a long time, I have got tickets for many people over the years and he was by far the worst for being a debtor.
I have since moved to Australia and am, as you know, starting a new business and website, at the moment it is aimed at Liverpool fans, but that will change, I am even in talks with man UTD fans in Adelaide, I may help out their supporters club, just looking after email mail-outs etc (yes I hate Man UTD) but in turn they will advertise my site, take part in my tipping comp and probably buy more items if I can get Man UTD ones. I am in no way like Dunk who hosts (I think he still does) and promotes other club fan sites. My involvement is purely commercial, my love is and always will be LFC I can assure you. I hope you see where I am coming from on this!!!
Anyhow I stumbled, by chance, across this blog (www-koptalk-insider.com) and my eyes were opened, I strongly advise you to read it and then decide if you wish to renew your membership on KT, I was an Honorary member until yesterday – I am now banned.
Yesterday I posted a new topic, nothing controversial, and not for the first time it was deleted by Dunk and the mods, I emailed him asking for it to be reinstated or I leave. I was also very disappointed he let a thread about The Haifa game stay on the site even when I asked it to go, he (Dunk) is a racist (he admits it)…do you want to give money to him?
On Dunks podcast last night he goes off on one against me, I wont lose any sleep over it, time to move in is my thought. Please though do not give him any of my email addresses. I was locked out of KT a few weeks ago (a mistake they say), but I only got back in after giving some personal details, I gave mainly false ones as it is known the KT see these details on. The next day for the first time in my life I start getting spam…If only I had known I would have given an email address I don’t use too often not my main one…my fault but I hope you don’t suffer the way I am.
Another thing never, ever enter any competitions or pay money to any of his charities, it has been proved prizes don’t exist and he pockets the charity money!!!
Yes I will possibly lose a bit of business through advertising on KopTalk but I think the risk is worth taking.
There are other sites around that are fee and in my opinion more informative and amusing two of which are www.est1892.co.uk and www.ynwa.tv. There are others that are good and it is easy to find links to them.
I hope you don’t mind this email, I just thought I would point out to you that Dunk is exploiting LFC fans and that is not fair on anyone. I am under the impression that LFC are aware of his lies and are in the process of taking action against him, I am not sure though.
Please fell free to distribute this to anyone who you think may be interested.
I am happy to reply to any questions you may have, but please can we keep this separate from any e-football business we may do, I consider Internet forums fun (and informative) and, for me, e-football is my work.
Thanks for reading.
Matthew
If you didn’t get a note from Matthew / cricket and you’d like to get in touch with him, drop me a line and I’ll forward your email onto him.
As for Dunk’s side of the story, well thanks to “univofchicago” we have a transcript of his podblast ranting session.
Dunk: You know about that email today, don’t you? Cricket69, what a wanker you were today my friend…Absolutely f*cking ridiculous. Apparently though one of the moderators inside the section of the website…He put something on the site…like a pose…I think its to promote his website or something…I don’t think its was big deal or not…I’m not sure…I didn’t know anything about it…Just minding my own business…you know me…and he sends me this email: “Why the hell did you delete my [thread] about Australians, if you don’t tell me I will email my 73 members I have email addresses from Koptalk” and he’s talking about all the bad sites that talk about us Steve. And he says “I am disgusted the way you treat members at times. I supported you until now! I gave up my email address to promote my selling website, nothing sinister, I replied by you explain your actions an apology by 3 PM your time or I turn Australian Liverpool fans against you. You’re call mate..Matthew”…That was the email
Steve: Can I say Dunk, we have more than 73 members from Australia anyways.
Dunk: I know. But apparently he is speaking for the all of Australia. I do know one of the main places we get feedbacks for Podcast is from Australia. They love it!
Steve: It will be interesting to hear what they have to say about this then
Dunk: Is he speaking on behalf of all the Australian Listeners? That’s what I want to know. Let us know. Podcast at Koptalk dot Com. Because he is going to turn Australia Liverpool fans against us!
Dunk: This is the sort of pricks we are dealing with on a daily basis. And then when we get rid of them, and they go through websites that slagging us off and that. Can you now work out why? Because we done something to these fucking idiots.
Dunk: So yeah so that was one of our members today telling us he is going to turn all Australian listeners against us. Let me, Big Dunk, send an explanation and apology by 3 PM our time as to why one of the moderators delete his thread. It is now 20 past 8 in the evening and we have not sent any explanation or apology. I did email note to f*ck himself and take his 73 f*cking friends with him.
So if you are one of cricket’s / Matthew’s 73 “f*cking friends” and you arrived here wondering what the fuss was about, why not spend an hour or so looking into it. Start with the “Read Me” at the top and feel free to email me or leave a comment below with any questions at all.
If you doubt the transcript, here’s Dunk’s reply to Matthew from earlier in the day.
>From: Duncan Oldham [mailto:editor@koptalk.com]
>Sent: Mon 8/7/2006 10:11 PM
>To:
>Cc: ————-; steve@koptalk.com
>Subject: RE: Why
>
>We have decided to remove your HM status because we don’t take kindly to
>threats. I have informed people of your ‘I will turn Australia against you’
>statement.
>
>A polite email from you and I could have asked which mod moved it and why.
>
>It seems like you’ll have to email your 73 Australian members telling them
>how bad we are, but please remember to include your original email. It is
>this kind of immature attitude that we are stamping out in our forums and
>by
>breaking it up, it’s already proving to be a nicer place.
>
>We’re not concerned about rival sites, we’re not concerned about blogs.
>We’re only concerned in looking after the people that are genuine Liverpool
>supporters and who don’t talk to others – including ourselves – like
>they’re
>a piece of sh*t.
>
>Sticks and stones mate, sticks and stones.
This had been sent in response to Matthew’s earlier note. Matthew was still upset that Dunk had locked him out recently, demanding that personal information be supplied before he let him back in. So when Dunk deleted his thread without explanation (blaming it on a mod) Matthew was extremely unhappy -
From: Matthew ——– [mailto:-----------]
Sent: 07 August 2006 13:10
To: editor@koptalk.com
Subject: Whythe hell did you delete my thread about Australians. If you dont tell me I will email my 73 members I have email addresses from KT in Aus and tell them about the blog. I am disgusted the way you treat members at times. I supported you until now.
I gave out my email address to promote my selling website…nothing sinister. A reply by you explaining your actions and an apology by 3:00pm your time or I turn Australian LFC fans gainst you.
Your call mate
Matthew
If you are new to the blog, Dunk will not let any of his members communicate with each other unless they go through him first. He even wants to vet contact between members. Private messaging is disabled, he’s changed his forum’s scripts so that email addresses aren’t shown by members who wanted to show them. He is frightened about the truth getting out to more of his members.
UPDATE: Matthew / Cricket has asked me to put this email address on here for anyone who wants to get in touch. cricket69@gmail.com will be monitored for at least the next couple of weeks.
August 8, 2006 at 9:20 am
and for those that didn’t know…i am in fact cricket69. I was just playting fatty’s game and using an alias. I wont use cricket69 anymore as that section of cyberfun finished yesterday.
August 8, 2006 at 9:38 am
Keep the ball rolling…
What is important now is to keep spreading the word.
Excuse my ignorance but I fail to see why people support Koptalk for so long knowing full well the stories are false and that people are being taken for a ride in the process.
KT is really making my blood boil at the moment, I look forward to meeting them at Melwood…
August 8, 2006 at 9:50 am
Matthew – No doubt he’s spreading all sorts of shite about you now to those unfortunate enough to still visit KT. I applaud your decision to give the fucker two fingers and I hope this doesn’t hurt your business too much.
As Another big name from KT leaves its another nail in that fat cunts coffin. I often noticed that you appeared somewhat reserved whenever Dunk, Wallet, Informer etc. would announce their latest scoop. I assume that you were aware that what the rest of us eejits thought was genuine info was complete bollocks.
August 8, 2006 at 9:55 am
Welcome Matthew, very well written letter. Hopefully if just one person decides not to give a penny to Dunk it was worth it!
The funny thing about the email you got from Dunk was that his surname is Oldham (he tried to inexplicitly deny it a few weeks ago) and he is still editor of KopTalk.
Why do I get an image of a fat puppy chasing its tail ad infinium whenever I think of Dunk…
August 8, 2006 at 10:17 am
Hi Matthew see you on est mate.
What username will you use (still DTIHF)?
August 8, 2006 at 10:23 am
I;ve been sitting on this for quite a while. To my knowledge it has never been used.
But I think it is time for someone to cause a bit of havoc.
http://www.megaupload.com/
The Koptalk Insider email Database. (before he removed the emails from profiles)
(link removed)
August 8, 2006 at 10:28 am
Don’t worry Matthew, lots of other good Liverpool forums out there without the nazi moderation.
August 8, 2006 at 10:37 am
Thanks Chunka
August 8, 2006 at 11:20 am
Sorry to hijack this thread and change the subject but it has just come to my attention that dunk has bought the domain name http://www.freemichaelshields.co.uk as opposed to the official one, ran by the family which is .org. Now there is not one reason on earth why he should need to do this as he could just direct people to the official site. But what is really making my blood boil is that I was also told he is advertising a different bank account number on his site to the one that is actually being used for the official fund. Now ripping LFC fans off with lies about insider info and bullshit transfer rumours is one thing, but IF he is robbing money that should be getting used to free that poor lad from prison then you best get him arrested and put in a cell now before someone gets there hands on the fat robbing bastard. If what ive been told is true, you should be able to prove it very easy, if you can prove it then get the fat get locked up before someone else gets locked up for doing him in. sorry if its a bit incoherent but im fuming.
August 8, 2006 at 11:23 am
Hi Paul – this is discussed on here too:
http://koptalkinsider.wordpress.com/2006/08/08/a-needless-lie-about-websites/#comment-4445
August 8, 2006 at 11:33 am
The bank accounts look the same to me
August 8, 2006 at 11:37 am
Does anybody know:
1) When Dunk registered the domain.
2) Made a donation.
Was the donation merely out of guilt for cybersquatting the Shields domain?
I recall him posting an editorial critical of the Michael Shields mosaic.
August 8, 2006 at 11:38 am
need to register before we can download from megaupload.com ??
August 8, 2006 at 12:38 pm
Posted in comments but I feel its relevant here too. Please read: -
Just for anyone who’s never seen it Wikipedias reply to Dunks response to, and tampering of, the Koptalk page in its online dictionary. The page was highly critical of KT and posted links to external sites (such as this one) that showed Fatty for what he truly is. Dunks responese? to continually edit the article ti hide damaging facts and info, and to deliberately tamper with the external links listed at the end of the article so as they linked to his own, more positive sites. However, it is important to pint out that since the page was locked, there only remains one external link on the whole page, yes, you guessed it! It leads straight to this blog! Guess Fatty lost this battle!
The part of the page I am providing is where one of the Wikipedia mods (i assume) gives Dunk a roasting for his continual re-editing of the page to change and hide facts. The mod states that where as Fatty’s detractors have provide an argument against him based on solid reasoning and evidence, Dunk himself has relied on school boy bully tactics, abusing Wikipedia policy, and has provided NO counter evidence what so ever! This should really make the few remaining loyal Dunkites think long and hard.
The segment of the article on Wikipedia: -
“If you think people are posting lies, then you should discuss it on the talk page of Koptalk, and cite your sources. I presume that you are the owner of the actual Koptalk site, which means that you are going to have to make sure that everything you do is above board. There was an incident yesterday when someone tried to change the external links to point away from the critical sites, and rather to point to similar domains owned by the owner of Koptalk. This manipulation was unacceptable, and was reverted.
As it stands, the criticisms that have been made have cited their sources. As you haven’t cited any counter-evidence, and have just blanked various critical sections, there could be problems. Wikipedia is about verifiability. It isn’t about avoiding all criticism or praise. Anything verifiable and notable has a place on Wikipedia. It seems that you have a vested interest in the Koptalk article, which, as I say, means that you should do everything by the book, and discuss it properly on the talk page.
For the record, I’m not a registered member of any ‘rival site’, or of Koptalk itself. I think I posted a couple of times on the official site a few years ago, but that’s it. KeithD 14:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)”
Damning to say the very least……..You can manipulate your own site Fatty but not other peoples!
BYDFTI
August 8, 2006 at 12:41 pm
Posted this somewhere else but feel its relevant here also: -
Just for anyone who’s never seen it Wikipedias reply to Dunks response to, and tampering of, the Koptalk page in its online dictionary. The page was highly critical of KT and posted links to external sites (such as this one) that showed Fatty for what he truly is. Dunks responese? to continually edit the article ti hide damaging facts and info, and to deliberately tamper with the external links listed at the end of the article so as they linked to his own, more positive sites. However, it is important to pint out that since the page was locked, there only remains one external link on the whole page, yes, you guessed it! It leads straight to this blog! Guess Fatty lost this battle!
The part of the page I am providing is where one of the Wikipedia mods (i assume) gives Dunk a roasting for his continual re-editing of the page to change and hide facts. The mod states that where as Fatty’s detractors have provide an argument against him based on solid reasoning and evidence, Dunk himself has relied on school boy bully tactics, abusing Wikipedia policy, and has provided NO counter evidence what so ever! This should really make the few remaining loyal Dunkites think long and hard.
The segment of the article on Wikipedia: -
“If you think people are posting lies, then you should discuss it on the talk page of Koptalk, and cite your sources. I presume that you are the owner of the actual Koptalk site, which means that you are going to have to make sure that everything you do is above board. There was an incident yesterday when someone tried to change the external links to point away from the critical sites, and rather to point to similar domains owned by the owner of Koptalk. This manipulation was unacceptable, and was reverted.
As it stands, the criticisms that have been made have cited their sources. As you haven’t cited any counter-evidence, and have just blanked various critical sections, there could be problems. Wikipedia is about verifiability. It isn’t about avoiding all criticism or praise. Anything verifiable and notable has a place on Wikipedia. It seems that you have a vested interest in the Koptalk article, which, as I say, means that you should do everything by the book, and discuss it properly on the talk page.
For the record, I’m not a registered member of any ‘rival site’, or of Koptalk itself. I think I posted a couple of times on the official site a few years ago, but that’s it. KeithD 14:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)”
Damning to say the very least……..You can manipulate your own site Fatty but not other peoples!
BYDFTI
August 8, 2006 at 12:43 pm
Superb, thanks for that file, will have some fun with this.
Poor Dunk won’t know what has hit him, the fat bastard.
August 8, 2006 at 12:46 pm
FFS
I thought he was Kopdan
August 8, 2006 at 12:57 pm
nah you don’t need to register
August 8, 2006 at 1:18 pm
hahahahahaha.
that list is awesome!!!
fatty is screwed bit time!!
August 8, 2006 at 1:30 pm
The second e-mail from Cricket to Dunk r.e. the deletion of the post strikes me as a major ‘toys out the pram moment’ from Cricket.
Don’t get me wrong i am not defending Dunk here i just think Crickets e-mail is childish and fairly rude.
…awaits the backlash
August 8, 2006 at 1:46 pm
Long time KT user here who is Australian.
I was recently “locked” out and supposedly needs to update my personal info. I have emailed them 2 times and have still got no response. I can only gather Dunk is pissed that I registered on another Liverpool forum despite me not saying anything bad against him.
So that’s how it goes, you register on another Liverpool forum and you get banned.
KT used to be a great place to be, but now it is a joke. Not worth being on there for free let alone 30 pounds.
Dunk, shame, shame, shame. Cricket gave you some of your own back and you can’t take it.
How does it feel?!
Proud Red, proud Aussie and proud not to be giving anymore of my cash to a liar like Dunk.
Inside info my arse.
August 8, 2006 at 1:56 pm
Hi there, another KT mug here. Would quite like to create some hell for this devious fat twat, but having difficuly downloading the e-mail list from Mega Download. Can anyone send to me, or give some advise please? Aussie LFC fan, Honnahon.
August 8, 2006 at 2:12 pm
paulcooper and sinon: I’m glad you brought up the Michael Shields issue because in my view the blog has some unfinished business.
Are you aware that we started to deal with it before?
Go to: http://koptalkinsider.wordpress.com/?s=michael+shields
Look at my post “Duncan Oldham’s Big Lie” and the post by Insider “Some Responses” and also at the previous posts by Insider which cites Oldham’s big rant against this blog regarding the Michael Shields issue. Some of you may remember the poster “Disco” seizing on Oldham’s reply to prove that this blog was wrong on that subject and probably others.
This is the story so far: remarks were made on here similar to but different from the remarks you have just made not only about the Michael Shields issue but about extraordinary practices in the conduct of other “appeals” and “charities” and the stance Oldham takes not to support the Micheal Shields campaign, or the appeals surrounding the Hillsboroguh events inlcuding the boycott of the S**.
Oldham issued his defence in which among other things he said that he had given 1,000 to the Michael Shields campaign of his personal money and that the family of Michael Shields had been in touch with him to support what he had done for the campaign and disagree with what was being said about him and that they had undertaken to watch what was said on the net about him and correct the false impressions being put about. In that rant he also said someone had been doctoring pictures of his young daughter. You can read it if you go back to the above posts.
I responded in my “Big Lie” post.
Insider responded that he would check into Oldham’s claims that he had paid 1,000 to the campaign and into his claim that the campaign/family supported Oldham and would take a stand against anyone who criticised him .
I think we can all assume that Insider did what he said he would and made the appropriate checks, as far as he could. You will notice that he never did report back to this blog. I think it is reasonable to specualte that that was at the request of those with whom he talked.
But you may also notice that Michael Shields’s family or the campaign has never made a statement correcting or criticising what was said on this blog .
My comment about the 1,000 was made independently of whatever Insider’s respondents might eventually say. My point was that Oldham directed the Michael Shields site to his own site, rather than advertising the appeal and having the hits go to the Michael Shields campaign, which would be the normal thing to do if you wanted to help an appeal.
We don’t know how many hits that little deal earned for Oldham and how many new members he recruited from those hits. But it is reasonable to assume he took in some revenues as a result.
Because he never gives an account of his appeals or charities or any of his activites, we don’t know if what he earned from that was less or more than 1,000. In any case, it is stretching it a bit for him to say that the donation was from his “personal pocket” unless you think it is alright to say that all the revenues into his business is his personal money.
I’ve commented before on the mingling of personal, business and charity money in a single bank account. It must make it very difficult to decide what taxes to pay – and we know that he would be keen to pay his fair share. It may also be illegal.
I don’t want to confuse the issue though – as far as I know he did not receive funds for the Michael Shield’s campaign, did he? – just hits, advertising revenues and possibly some new memberships and sales of goods and services.
Did he actually pay the 1,000? That is for the campaign to say. >I actually believe that he intended to do so.
But that does not alter the true statements made in this blog about his failure to account to readers or members of KT and the unsual way he handles appeals.
Nor did it alter our main point, at that time, that he does not want KT to be involved in the Michael Shields campaign or appeals surrounding the events at Hillsborough. He said many times – that those campaigns were “political” and his site was about “entertainment”- he even said that the people involved in those two campaigns were very difficult to deal with, very “political”. He said that a couple of weeks before his defence.
So giving a PC to the Hillsborough campaign (and I have read it took him a long time to deliver on that promise) and 1,000 to the Michael Shields campaign – if it arrived – was a pay-off. That was the price of washing his hands of them.
What’s wrong with that, it’s his business isn’t it? Yes, it’s his business. But since he falsely claims to be the No. 1 fan site for LFC with 6,000 paying members and hundreds of thousands of visitors to his free sites, and given that his con is built on the premises that he has extraordinary devotion to LFC and its fans, and is in some way representative of them against the “suits” i.e. the shareholdes and officials and other employees at LFC- and given all his other claims – it is extraordinary and worthy of critical comment that he wants to distance his site from two causes which are supported by most, if not every other LFC fan site.
August 8, 2006 at 2:15 pm
Honnahon the link to download from megadownload is in the top right. you have to enter 3 Digits into the box
August 8, 2006 at 2:24 pm
BYDFTI : I think the Wikipedia story was longer than the interesting account yu have given. As I understand it, the reason that non-KT people went to the Wiki site and altered it, was because Oldham had been there first. He had doctored the LFC entry so that it presented KT as the No.1 supporters’s site and gave what was essentially a false, self-serving history of his site, and eliminated mention of all other sites.
Some people objected to that as not being not to the standard of objectivity required by an encylopaedia. They made their own correctiopns. He went back to Wiki and eliminatad the corrections and posted new pro-KT entries. The battle raged for a few days. Eventually the editor of Wiki came unto this blog and said he was monitoring the situation. Then he eliminated all references to KT, permanently, on the grounds that none of its claims were supported by evidence whereas the claims of the objectors (mainly from this blog) were supported by evidence. In addition the KT entries were in conflict with Wiki’s charter.
I wish the editors of News Now could be as conscientious.
August 8, 2006 at 2:35 pm
I’ve just noticed that Insider has posted about the Micheel Shields campaign on the previous thread while I was making my post on this thread.
August 8, 2006 at 2:35 pm
awaits the backlash
there is history, yes i went off but it was not the firsttime he has deleted mine or others posts for no reason.
It was the straw……
August 8, 2006 at 3:43 pm
Found this blog on friday and i’m now realising whats been going on, suspected for some time but was never able to put my finger on it
August 8, 2006 at 4:02 pm
chunka, would u mind uploading it to another place like yousendit.com? megaupload is being an ass to me…and since it is an XLS….u would save a lot of space if u could zip it. thanks a lot.
August 8, 2006 at 4:15 pm
http://rapidshare.de/files/
(link removed)
August 8, 2006 at 4:58 pm
Nice one Chunky.
August 8, 2006 at 5:03 pm
Could someone explain what’s actually in those files?
August 8, 2006 at 5:20 pm
its a list of emails of koptalkers some current some ex members.
certainly explains why ive been getting so many fucking spam e mails lately.
August 8, 2006 at 5:26 pm
Its never been used. ROCK. Insider Insider knows this. If it was ever going to be used it would only be used to promote this blog and bring down Lord Lardiness.
August 8, 2006 at 5:40 pm
ROCK This is better than Murder Mystery in some Cornish hotel on a winter weekend. All the clues are dropping into place. I’m still waiting for the News Now connection to be exposed.
August 8, 2006 at 5:42 pm
well i might suggest its removed from here then,thankfully i never give out my proper e mail to anyone but the one i have given out to places like kt has been inundated with spam and porn for the last few weeks
August 8, 2006 at 5:53 pm
I see that Brendan has been having a go at univ_of_chicago on Est 1892 for transcribing the Oldham podcast on here. Insider asked people to record Oldham’s broadcasts because he gives away stuff when he is talking. univ_of_chicago was doing us a service. The fact that so many have read and commented on the podcast rant proves that it was of some interest.
Sure the podcast was – as Fagan says – like witnessing a car crash – but the audience is not responsible for the quality of the act.
Besides listening to an Oldham broadcast is marginally more entertaining and a hell of a lot more informative than Brendan’s swearing parrot act.
August 8, 2006 at 6:02 pm
I was given access to this database myself by a reader of the blog a few months back, this exact same list as chunka has given us all access to today.
I used it to send one email to about 20 people all in go one day last month.
I also used it to send occasional emails to odd people on the list. You can match a user up from the insider site to their email address on the spreadsheet by looking at their user number / member number.
I never (unless I made a mistake) sent an email to the same person more than once, unless they replied to me first.
A few people have mentioned getting spam all of a sudden in recent weeks. It’s not come as a result of this mailing list. All of these email addresses were available to all (up until recently) by visiting the koptalkinsider.coN website. You didn’t even need to be a member or logged in to see the email addresses.
A lot of people are saying that all of a sudden they seem to be getting a lot of spam, and they seem to associate it with Dunk in some way.
If you’ve been getting a lot more spam than usual lately – to your Koptalk-registered email address, let me know, or leave a comment. State whether it’s on a “free” email address, like hotmail or gmail, or if it’s a work or paid-for email account. (in other words you don’t need to post your email address on here).
It might not be Dunk’s fault, but it will be interesting to see.
For the record, I’ve not noticed any extra spam on any of the email addresses I’ve supplied to Dunk. However one of my email accounts already gets 200 spams a day so it would be hard to see a sudden surge really!
(If anyone is still having trouble getting the list off those download sites drop me a line and I’ll pass it on to you.)
August 8, 2006 at 6:17 pm
I used a particular hotmail account for only two sites, one of them KT the other YNWA over a number of years. About 2-3 weeks ago I started receiving lots of spam that gets past the “medium” hotmail filter. I posted the addresses on here.
August 8, 2006 at 6:32 pm
Evening chaps. Interesting stuff from Cricket. I missed it because I was on Est1892
The number of decent posters who’ve left NOT because of this blog, but because of Dunk’s ‘behaviour’ (censorship/paranoia/deleted posts), is getting ridiculous. He’s surely got to wake up and smell the roses.
August 8, 2006 at 6:37 pm
There is a substantial reduction in the number of KT come-ons in the News Now top 20 today. Has something happened?
August 8, 2006 at 7:05 pm
The email address I use on here has only been used on Koptalk previously and I regualrly get Spam about Viagra, penis enlargement, cheap watches and nonsense about “reply to this and share in millions of unclaimed inheritances”.
I’ve received it ever since the account was created and this blog has made no difference to the volume of spam. The account is a googlemail account.
August 8, 2006 at 7:13 pm
Rupert
At YNWA the email addresses of our users are shielded from public view – you can send a email to a user but unless they contact you directly back you will not learn of their email address. The emails are used occasionally to send out bits of info (only once or twice that I can think of) and have been used to ensure that current users have current email address (if its bounced then they are locked out and have to access the forum that’s open to all to update their email).
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The email address at YNWA have never been made public to anyone and we have no intention of ever doing so. We have nothing to gain from doing and everything to lose (well our credibility at least… lets not comment on that
If your address has only been used on YNWA and Koptalk and you are getting dspam – well lets just say its not initiated by anything at YNWA…
We even had someone approach us to email our users for a perfectly legitimate reason which would have raised funds for the site to help keep it going and we turned them down in the interests of the privacy of our users.
M
August 8, 2006 at 7:14 pm
“Dunk’s ‘behaviour’ (censorship/paranoia/deleted posts), is getting ridiculous.”
Careful you might fall off your fence.
Instead of trying to convince the contributors to this blog that it has no effect, like an emu with its head stuck in the sand, you might be more profitably employed for Oldham by doing what you do best – extracting the KT user-name or other identifying features of EST 1892 users, and then justifying Oldham’s subsequent banning of them from KT.
August 8, 2006 at 7:27 pm
I’m of the opinion that until you leave Koptalk, you don’t really have your eyes wide open. That’s my experience anyway.
August 8, 2006 at 7:32 pm
Easy tiger! You misunderstood my post. I’m not interested in criticising any ‘claims’ you make any more.
I’ll rephrase it slowly for you.
“Irrespective of my views on a lot of the claims made on this blog, several major posters have left Koptalk independently of this blog.”
or, to put it slightly differently.
“He seems to be losing members himself, even if this blog didn’t exist”
As for Est-1892 : what are you talking about?! I obviously know these posters very well, so I ‘know’ who everyone is (well, the major posters from KT at least). One person I didn’t, I certainly recognised from their banter and they PM’d me their name.
You’re some sort of weird stalker really.
August 8, 2006 at 7:46 pm
Nice list of email addresses
I can’t access them currently here due to not having Office installed (don’t ask) – I’m assuming someone has mailed all of these addresses with an alternative URL to koptalk?
August 8, 2006 at 7:52 pm
Disco:
Yawn !
August 8, 2006 at 8:02 pm
LOL mate, fair play to you.
Do you actually post at all on Est-1892? (and, no I don’t want to know your fucking username
) I’m sure we’d actually get on when either this blog or Koptalk closes and we can talk about football 
August 8, 2006 at 8:16 pm
Disco, have you considered that the reporting of Dunks actions and claims by this blog may be causing his irrational moderating and locking out of members? Previously he was quite safe and only his major scams or S*n-related comments got wide coverage. Now a repository exists to show Koptalkers.
August 8, 2006 at 8:33 pm
Chunky – “considered” : I’ve said several times that it’s got to him!
This whole data-clense is suspiciously like ‘let’s find rupert and insider’
I really don’t get why if someone gets a post deleted, they also get their account locked. It’s treating people by children, and we must be getting close to double figures of decent posters who this has happened to. I can also see why they’ve not phoned up/e-mailed either : it’s pretty demeaning.
I guess when I said “independently” earlier, you could argue that his actions (caused by paranoia of the blog) that have resulted in people leaving aren’t therefore independent. I don’t know, but it’s certainly ironic!
August 8, 2006 at 8:35 pm
I like Disco, he’s good on est. However I think he’s wrong about this blog. It’s significantly raised awareness of Dunkin’s activities and in doing so hugely contributed to the flight from KT of many of the posters.
August 8, 2006 at 8:55 pm
Cheers Tom…. I think
IMO though, the more significant losses (if I was to be as crass as suggesting that some posters were more ‘important’ to KT than others) have been down to Dunk’s behaviour towards them or simply because Est1892 seems a more relaxed place to be and NOT the blog.
Presumably the editors here aren’t too bothered how they leave though
August 8, 2006 at 8:57 pm
I like Disco too. It’s like I said, you only really have your eyes opened when you finally leave Koptalk in my experience, especially if you’ve been there a good while.
August 8, 2006 at 9:03 pm
Anyway, what’s happened to http://www.dunkknowsbest.coN ? It seems to be down plus no blobcast today.
Summat’s up.
August 8, 2006 at 9:51 pm
“Presumably the editors here aren’t too bothered how they leave though”
But you are. You are obsessed on this and other boards in trying to define precisely why they leave in order to downplay the contributions of the blog. I suppose it doesn’t have anything to do with the criticism you received on here when you came calling (repeatedly) defending all the Oldham practices which you now apepar to decry.
I can’t speak for other contributors – but it doesn’t matter to me what precise configuration of factors caused people to stop using Koptalk or sending it money.
August 8, 2006 at 9:55 pm
Please remove a link to the email list in these comments for this thread. You are playing with fire on that one.
August 8, 2006 at 10:14 pm
Rupert – what’s with the aggression mate?! This is the first time I’ve been on here in bloody ages, yet you know what I’ve been saying on other forums (albeit a fucked up version). One of us is obsessed mate, and it isn’t me
I don’t care much for this blog, and you don’t care much for my views, so let’s just move along and play nicely.
August 8, 2006 at 10:15 pm
Red_Al – I was wondering why I was suddenly getting e-mails linking to this site
August 8, 2006 at 10:18 pm
my guess is that he has abandoned it again and moving on to a new version…
dunk’s koptalkblog version 21.5
August 8, 2006 at 10:35 pm
GUYS GUYS GUYS
Lets not go to town with that list of emails. It’s a list of members (ie ordinary fans) not a list of Dunks email addresses. Sending crap to them will only lose credibility for this blog – IMHO.
I think if the administrators of this fine blog have already sent a mail shot letting them know about this blog, then that should suffice. I am fully aware that there is some nasty stuff out there that can be sent by email, but remember that these guys are fans – they aren’t Dunk himself.
August 8, 2006 at 11:09 pm
mentioned previously – the reason the list is out there is because dunk the fucktard had it advertised to the world on koptalk.guys guys guys complain to him if anything happens – its his fault.it was a list he collected and then made available to any twat.
August 9, 2006 at 12:05 am
So my email would be on that list?
And it could be sold to any spanmmer in the world?
Is that what happened – he or someone who got access to a list he did not guard – sold it to spammers. Isnt that why we have the Data Protectiona Act – to set standards for protecting the privacy of personal information?
August 9, 2006 at 12:22 am
but rupert, the lying con artist said his info is only stored on paper remember
August 9, 2006 at 12:30 am
In light of some comments received and some emails received, I’ve decided to remove the links to the email list.
Bear in mind that this email list was taken from a website and any spambot was capable of finding the email addresses – they weren’t hidden to members only.
I don’t particularly think anyone wants spammers (and I mean true spammers) to get hold of the email addresses now if they’ve already failed to get hold of them straight off Koptalk.
That’s the reason I removed the link to the list.
If you still want the link to the list drop me a line, but to be honest I think all of those on it have already been sent a link to the blog by now. If you email me though try and explain why you want it then I know you’re not a Manc on a mission to wind up some Reds.
August 9, 2006 at 12:35 am
Fatty has actually bothered to collate all the emails and present it on a nice spreadsheet.
What are the chances of him keeping a database of his GC/Insider member’s work email, address and telephone number on a similiar spreadsheet? Very likely – which would be in violation of the Data Protection Act.
August 9, 2006 at 12:37 am
Is the email list Gold club members only? I am not on there or is charlie1 (my mate). We never went to the upper levels of gold.
August 9, 2006 at 3:26 am
Was Charlie 1 a cricketer, too?
August 9, 2006 at 3:52 am
univ: “Fatty has actually bothered to collate all the emails and present it on a nice spreadsheet.”
I’m just wondering why he would do that. I suppose an innocent purpose would be to make it e sier to send out administration emails. But it does seem odd.
August 9, 2006 at 4:42 am
Cahrlie1 is no more a cricketer than you are a bear.
August 9, 2006 at 5:02 am
It is odd. Everything the fat man does is odd.
But going back to my earlier point, if Fatty put all the emails down on a spreadsheet, then its “99.9%” certain that he would do the same with the new set of emails/addresses/tel no. The loon claims that all the info is stored on paper. What BULLSHIT!!
August 9, 2006 at 5:03 am
Red_Al – agree 100%. I don’t appreciate spam whether it be from oldham or anyone else.
August 9, 2006 at 9:01 am
Thats not Fatty’s spreadsheet. The Data was mined from Koptalk insider quite easily. All you do is download this software
http://www.mailutilities.com/aee/
And put the Koptalk Insider URL into the box and press GO
and a couple of hours later it spits out a nice excel spreadsheet.
The reason it was so simple to do, as someone frpm YNWA has said elsewhere is because fatty uses Fusion BB. A Cheap piece of shite compare to Vbulletin or other various forums available.
I’m sorry if anyone got spam because of it, But I listened to that Podcast and got annoyed at his Australian rant.
I’ve watched neigbours for years.
August 9, 2006 at 10:05 am
itwasalreadyoutthere
I’m not doubting what you say. The point I was making is that people here shouldnt go on a mission to piss off Dunk via his members who are at the end of the day – ordinary fans.
I dont care who else could easily get the list, the fact remains that none of us should use the list for our own ends or for negative reasons.
August 9, 2006 at 10:36 am
Rupert – as to your question why Fatty would collate all the email addresses, I believe that the reason boils down to what it always does – money.
I could be wrong, but a big of list of email addresses could be VERY useful to some people who want to profit from it, via spam, begging letters and scams such as the Nigeria syndicate. Dunk would just let them know, for a price, where to find such addresses.
August 9, 2006 at 10:39 am
Insider – do you know if my email address is on that list? Its my works email but I haven’t got access to the list or been sent any spam (maybe it’s filtered away from me). Reason being is I was only ever a ‘free’ member of KT and therefore never supplied phone number, address etc. Cheers
August 9, 2006 at 11:03 am
Sinon, it was Koptalk insider. not the free site.
August 11, 2006 at 8:44 pm
newcomer to your blog and i find it very informative in relation to a decision i am about to make. cheers