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Sorry about the lack of order in this post. It contains a selection of this evening’s Koptalk madness. I don’t think I need to say much, let’s just sit back and watch the movie of “The Day that Koptalk Died”. Even if Koptalk survives, I doubt it will be anything like it used to be, and its influence will be diminished a great deal. Anyway, watch the film…
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#1558383 – 06/07/19 03:22 PM Reply
Quotei am pretty offended by the way some people have been treated on here.
banning tom for posting that perfectly normal thread earlier on is just f**king ridiculous. and he was banned no matter what is said on here. he emailed me personally to tell me he was banned and he only received 1 email today from the site and it contained no explanation as to why he was banned.
i also received a snotty email after i posted a reply agreeing with toms very well advanced points which were for the good of this site.
its a disgrace. feel free to do with my membership as you like, im not bothered anymore. and dont bother emailing me either as i am too busy/not bothered to respond.
and its not just the tom being banned thing, thats was the straw that broke the camels back. its the constant deleting of threads, selective information is being exercised, i.e. censorship.
those of you who use google in china might know the feeling..
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So another long-time member departs. Still, Dunk’s got his wacky ideas to fall back on.
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19-07-06 07:19 PM – Post#273149Forget the millions football clubs have invested in Prozone… this weekend we will debut our custom made Prozac Board on the site.
We will be using photos from the latest technology we purchased from a garage at the end of some blokes garden this week for the confirmed team line-up that we publish on the site.
Then, time permitting, we will be using actual video footage using the Prozac board to show how the goals were scored.
Now you’re really feeling the excitement aren’t you?
Bring it on…
Dunk’s bought another domain name for himself, and has set up yet another blog. Needless to say it’s pretty crap. In fact it’s completely crap. Here’s the “disclaimer” he puts on the site…
“Oi You!
It’s important to note that what I say on this blog are my personal opinions. They are not read or approved by anyone at KopTalk before they are posted. Even though I work for KopTalk none of the views here reflect the views of the KopTalk website, any associated management, my co-workers or KopTalk partners, affiliates or suppliers. If you’re too thick to understand this, please leave now.”
We left anyway Dunk – it was crap, as we said earlier. If anyone wants the domain someone mentioned it in the comments.
A much better domain to visit is…
www.koptalksucks.com
…provided by a mystery benefactor – i.e. someone bought the domain themselves and pointed it at the blog. I know who, but they want to remain silent about it for now.
In another mad moment, Dunk brings back his websites for the blind idea. Another scam? Probably. Another way of trying to make himself look such a caring person? Almost certainly.
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#1558059 – Wed Jul 19 2006 05:15 PM Reply QuoteI’m thinking of making a site to run alongside koptalk.com that will be more user friendly for people with reading difficulties etc. We actually have a couple of blind gold club members and until we actually had the pleasure of speaking to them, we would never even have thought about them. Sometimes you just don’t think.
Does anyone have any experience of such websites? It’d be nice to offer something a bit different that can be used by all Reds.
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#1558146 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:00 PM Reply Quoteyou tried the RNIB?
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#1558219 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:50 PM Reply QuoteNot yet… I just wondered if we had an experts on before I send someone to look into it for me.
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If he cared about it he’d spend a little bit of his fortune on it. If he had a fortune.
He then tries a bit of humour. As we’ve said before, the best humour from Oldham is when he’s trying not to be funny. He’s the best unintentional comedian in the country. When he tries to be funny, it always seems to fail. “ST3″ is his sidekick and teenage former drinking partner.
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#1557896 – Wed Jul 19 2006 04:57 PM
Reply to this post ReplyWhy was my post removed about your ears?
It’s just like Nazi Germany
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#1557902 – Wed Jul 19 2006 04:59 PM
Reply to this post ReplyCommunity Manager
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#1557903 – Wed Jul 19 2006 04:59 PM
Reply to this post ReplyIs it the heat getting to everyone today or what?
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#1557910 – Wed Jul 19 2006 05:02 PM
Reply to this post ReplyThe new height of laziness – Dunk can’t be bothered to rotate his chair and talk to Steve!
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#1557919 – Wed Jul 19 2006 05:04 PM
Reply to this post ReplyShouldn’t you lock this thread as well before anyone gets the chance to respond?
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#1557922 – Wed Jul 19 2006 05:05 PM
Reply to this post ReplyGood call… wakey, wakey Steve… come and deal with the inmates.
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#1557926 – Wed Jul 19 2006 05:06 PM
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Community ManagerPlease, just take me away…. he just earnt himself a few more driving lessons today. I am soooooo looking forward to never turning a computer on again
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#1557929 – Wed Jul 19 2006 05:06 PM
Reply to this post ReplyTell him to put the kleenex down and concentrate……………..
and not on Katie!
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#1557980 – Wed Jul 19 2006 05:27 PM
Reply to this post ReplyRich… I really need a day out in York again mate
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#1557988 – Wed Jul 19 2006 04:25 PM
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Rich… I really need a day out in York again mateCool! I can put up with steve for the day!
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Is someone please going to tell Rich Tea about Duncan? Before he spends another day in his company? If you’ve got his email address, please put him out of his misery.
Back to the Prozac. Prozac?
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#1558128 – Wed Jul 19 2006 05:52 PM
Reply to this post Reply Reply to this post QuoteForget the millions football clubs have invested in Prozone… this weekend we will debut our custom made Prozac Board on the site.
We will be using photos from the latest technology we purchased from a garage at the end of some blokes garden this week for the confirmed team line-up that we publish on the site.
Then, time permitting, we will be using actual video footage using the Prozac board to show how the goals were scored.
Now you’re really feeling the excitement aren’t you?
Bring it on…
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#1558153 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:07 PM
Reply to this post Reply Reply to this post QuoteI am going to start making silly gadgets and sell them to Dunk – it seems the guy will buy anything!! I will make a fortune.
Now Dunk sir would you be interested in owning this shiny button – you can sew this button onto any shirt and your shirt becomes instantly exlusive and one of a kind!!**
I also have this lovely beer and pizza holder – it will allow you to hold a slice and a bottle in one hand freeing up the other hand to hold down the lid of your pizza box so steve can’t rob a slice. **
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#1558170 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:16 PM
Reply to this post Reply Reply to this post QuoteIt’s just something… let’s say… “different”
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#1558173 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:18 PM
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#1558176 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:19 PM
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#1558185 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:25 PM
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hey dunk if its done in a good way it will be great don’t let the hard***** get to you
I for one appreciate what you are trying to do..????
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#1558213 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:43 PM
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Eth,is that you in your avater?It’s quality mate.no mate its Shaun Parkes aka Koop from Human Traffic
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#1558215 – Wed Jul 19 2006 06:44 PM
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hey dunk if its done in a good way it will be great don’t let the hard***** get to you
I for one appreciate what you are trying to do..Fortunately the majority do. Those who don’t we bin anyway
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If you’ve been banned this week you now know what Dunk thinks of you.
Time for another mad moment on a mad day for the mad ego.
Dunk
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#1557965 – 19/07/06 05:20 PM Reply QuoteI was just reading the topic about where on the Kop fans used to stand (if they were lucky to).
It made me think about those Reds overseas who have NEVER and probably will NEVER get to visit Anfield because let’s face it, it can be expensive and it can be hard to organise.
So.. I was thinking, why don’t we organise something to make someone’s dream happen? We collectively nominate/decide members who should be considered or we run a competition. Personally a competition would be better because I know I couldn’t say Person A deserves and Person B doesn’t.. this is someone’s dreams.
Then, at some stage next season for example, KopTalk pays for their flights from wherever they live in the world to bring them to Liverpool. I provide some hotel digs and some match tickets also and members here could also meet the forum member at the match.
What do you think? Limit it to the Gold Club also? Good idea or pointless?
See the comedy value? It’s there when he least expects it. Has anyone had their Xbox yet? PSP? I believe from one of the comments in here that “Piedro” has been waiting a long time for his prize.
Then Dunk started posting thread after thread of single posts, claiming it was positve feedback on his site. This is how he introduced it.
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Posts: 8561THE FEEDBACK IS IN THIS SECTION – PLEASE READ
#1558370 – Wed Jul 19 2006 08:13 PM
Reply to this post ReplyThis is a selection of the feedback I have received by email recently. The folder I keep it all in is packed with these kind of ‘heads up’ messages. Truth be told for every 100 positive emails I receive, there’s usually 1 negative. In fact, it could be 500 to 1.
The majority of these comments will be added to the main site over the coming weeks along with the usernames of the contributing members.
There may be sites obsessed with what takes place here along with my every move and word but if we were ever to create a positive feedback only site, we’d need to employ staff purely to publish the thankyou’s we get.
It is because of our genuine supporters – and not those in their cliques that claim to be your friends – that we continue to come up with new ideas to try and make things more entertaining and enjoyable.
We welcome feedback by email – positive or negative – and I personally respond to every geneuine email from members no matter how nice or harsh. If people come in good faith then we’ll look after them, if someone’s just taking the St Mike, we bin them.
Contributions by members makes it all possible and for that I am grateful. However, I prefer quality and not quantity which is why we try to bin the idiots. This enables us to give you a more mature community. However, I know that there are areas that need cleaning up and as a result we will be denying the renewals of certain members who we believe are maybe better suited elsewhere.
Thankyou for your continued support. Let’s look forward to 2006-07
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Someone called “Disco1999″ wanted to know what the point was of all these crazy threads on “feedback”. Milkman warned him that he may see himself in trouble if he dared ask such questions…
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#1558401 – Wed Jul 19 2006 08:29 PM
Reply to this post ReplyI’ll try again – nothing to do with t’other posts. I realise they can’t be commented on.
What’s the feedback all about? Why post it in the gold club?!
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#1558404 – Wed Jul 19 2006 08:30 PM
Reply to this post Replywaits for jd again
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#1558406 – Wed Jul 19 2006 08:31 PM
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waits for jd againYou’re not helping!
I’m just interested in its purpose.
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#1558408 – Wed Jul 19 2006 08:33 PM
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waits for jd againYou’re not helping!
I’m just interested in its purpose.
me too, i started a thread on it then jd popped along and did his stuff
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#1558412 – Wed Jul 19 2006 08:34 PM
Reply to this post ReplyIt’s going in both sections, not just here. If you have any questions, please email myself direct or Steve. The forums are NOT for support relates issues.
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#1558415 – Wed Jul 19 2006 08:35 PM
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waits for jd againYou’re not helping!
I’m just interested in its purpose.
me too, i started a thread on it then jd popped along and did his stuff
i have only locked one thread all day. As for the other threads being deleted that was not me but people really should know not to use the forums to raise concerns. Any whinges in this thread and it will be pulled.
Now getting back to Discos question no idea mate. Sorry.
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The mad, mad world of Koptalk. No other Liverpool FC site is anything like it. Thank goodness.
July 19, 2006 at 11:50 pm
Can you lose points for driving a site while under the inlfuence?
July 19, 2006 at 11:51 pm
The forum for the blind is just to develop a market for his book with blank pages.
July 19, 2006 at 11:52 pm
can u lose points for copyrighting a pic that was not taken by koptalk? theres one now that says c propaganda/koptalk
how has this fat prick not been done by police or anythin yet
July 19, 2006 at 11:52 pm
I now have another name he calls his paying members – “inmates”.
July 19, 2006 at 11:57 pm
So it looks like he was on Woodpecker and Prozac all day.
July 20, 2006 at 12:04 am
How about making a list of the names Oldham call his readers and paying members:
numpties
idiots
bellends
bitters
girls
bitches
inmates
rejects (from lobster)
trolls (from lobster)
loons (from jj)
anymore?
Please note “feedback” on KT has now been classifed as “whinges”
July 20, 2006 at 12:06 am
I wonder how long until Koptalksucks.co.uk is registered….?
http://www.whois-search.com/whois/koptalksucks.co.uk
July 20, 2006 at 12:11 am
Since Im on nightwatch let me be the first to announce that our hits today reached an all time record, even exceeding the unusually high spike during the Battle of Wikepedia – which we won, of course.
July 20, 2006 at 12:33 am
alan, i emailed the guy from propaganda this morning but haven’t had a reply. I did suggest that all might be in order given that the lump had even filed the pic in a propaganda folder
July 20, 2006 at 12:33 am
“can u lose points for copyrighting a pic that was not taken by koptalk? theres one now that says c propaganda/koptalk
how has this fat prick not been done by police or anythin yet ”
Report any abuse of copyright to:
sales@propaganda-photo.com
July 20, 2006 at 12:48 am
Hope everyone likes the domain. No doubt as soon as Dunk reads this he’ll be snapping up the .net/.org/.co.uk versions. Feel free Dunk, waste of money, 95% of people type .com.
July 20, 2006 at 12:49 am
Hope everyone likes the domain. No doubt as soon as Dunk reads this he’ll be snapping up the .net/.org/.co.uk versions. Feel free Dunk, waste of money, 95% of people type .com.
Oh and if anyone would like to donate towards the purchase of more domains to annoy Mr Oldham please contact Insider-Insider.
July 20, 2006 at 12:51 am
its not that i departed per say, i was banned within 2 minutes of posting my thread
July 20, 2006 at 1:26 am
You there Rupert?
July 20, 2006 at 4:44 am
did anyone see his new blog entry???im sure the insider-insider will touch on it pretty soon…
hes using that sympathy ploy again…
the difference this time being that he uses the PLIGHT IN THE MIDDLE-EAST instead of his family….
this guy never fails to amaze me….
July 20, 2006 at 5:44 am
this is his new blog entry btw. enjoy!
” We’ve been in the office 16 hours today and I can confess that I feel like shite. I’m knackered and there’s still a couple of more hours to do yet. 4 of us have been in here all day but to be honest there’s been little conversation as it’s been so busy.
It was like a playground on the forums today with people kicking off and crying like fecking 6-year-olds, although maybe that’s unfair as my lad’s 6 and he’s more switched on than some people.
The world’s on the verge of a potential nuclear holocaust because of the trouble between Israel and Lebanon and you have people crying over why there post was removed.
You see the photo? They’re all brothers. Their homes, some of their family members and friends, were wiped out following an Israeli warplane missile attack in the southern village of Srifa, Lebanon earlier today.
Now I don’t know who’s to blame for the crisis over there and I’ll admit that I’m not educated enough to even have an opinion on the political topics in that region. But what I do know is that in the world today there’s far more important things happening than what takes place on community forums on the internet.
This is why I have little time for people who need to take their heads from out of their arses.”
July 20, 2006 at 6:06 am
“It is because of our genuine supporters….”
He has a problem with the concept that his customers are LFC supporters not Oldham supporters.
“- and not those in their cliques that claim to be your friends – ”
OK hands up – who are in cliques claiming to be his friends? It can’t be us! In fact it must be refreshing for him to deal with us if his friends are not to be trusted. With us he knows where he stands.
“…that we continue to come up with new ideas to try and make things more entertaining and enjoyable.”
There’s the “royal we” again. But let’s give him credit for his new ideas – a hotel with an LFC theme for Gold Club members to stay free, a house overlooking Melwood from where to film training, a collection to buy him a share in LFC, a collection to pay the mortgage on the house of his relatives….the new ideas are never ending.
“We welcome feedback by email – positive or negative -”
Later in his soliloquy he refers to feedback as “whinges” which he says he “bins”.
“….. and I personally respond to every geneuine email from members no matter how nice or harsh. ”
Oh what a porkie!
“If people come in good faith then we’ll look after them, if someone’s just taking the St Mike, we bin them.”
So if you are “binned” that, by definition means you did not communicate in good faith. I see! But good to see he “looks after” genuine enquiries even if they are only paying customers.
“Contributions by members makes it all possible and for that I am grateful. However, I prefer quality and not quantity which is why we try to bin the idiots.”
Notice his rare use of the pronoun “I” ? And notice that if you are an idiot who gets binned, that means by definition, that your communication was not quality.
“This enables us to give you a more mature community.”
So he’s not only a Community Manager but also a Community Engineer.
But fair do’s I have noticed a rise in maturity ….the traffic light game in the shoutbox, for example, the hundreds of posts from his main worker bees, Brendand and Ryan, with , variations on the theme “You fkucking unfunny, shyte, muck, leg-humping, looney., mentally sick, unfortunate poster ….”
“However, I know that there are areas that need cleaning up and as a result we will be denying the renewals of certain members who we believe are maybe better suited elsewhere.”
What he means is that certain members will not be renewing in fact they have already left so they will be re-classified as “rejects” and “jealous” and “loons”.
And what are these areas that need cleaning up ? His porn ads, his adult date finder, his dodgy competitions, his unregistered charities,his copyright theft, his lies about the “wallet” and access to Rick Parry, the Croch S** tape archives……?
I like his Community Guidance Counsellor tone “who we believe are maybe better suited elsewhere.”
July 20, 2006 at 6:10 am
How about making a list of the names Oldham call his readers and paying members:
numpties
idiots
bellends
bitters
girls
bitches
inmates
rejects
trolls
loons
jealous
fecking 6-year-olds
need to take their heads out of their asses
anymore?
Please note “feedback” on KT has now been classifed as “whinges”
July 20, 2006 at 6:25 am
Looks like I stumbled into a freefor all here. I am still not clear what Tom did to get banned but it must have been something pretty juicy. Interesting slang, i am still trying to figure out what some of it means eg. “Oh what a porkie!” ???
July 20, 2006 at 6:32 am
“We’ve been in the office 16 hours today and I can confess that I feel like shite…”
You look like shite, too. No need to confess it – we already knew. You should get out of the shed and go for a walk around Wallsend – don’t worry its safe enough there’s no LFC supporters around there.
“4 of us have been in here all day but to be honest there’s been little conversation as it’s been so busy.”
Actually there were two of them but the Woodpecker and Prozac produces double vision.
And how can you have a decent conversation if your busy talkng to yourself all day?
July 20, 2006 at 7:17 am
I’ll be addressing some of this in my forthcoming *blockbuster* – don’t worry I’m not going to charge for it, and I gaurantee that it will appear.
I’ll also be posting a selection of comments from the 50 or so emails I got supporting my post. 50 emails isn’t bad seeing as the post was pulled after about 6 minutes.
July 20, 2006 at 8:00 am
has anyone seen his batman and robin pic on his blog?
shouldnt it be Fatman and Robin?
http://www.dunkknowsbest.com . The only things he knows best are how to excessively over eat and lie .
July 20, 2006 at 8:49 am
Fatman and Bobin, rather.
July 20, 2006 at 8:52 am
Hang on, missed his new toy; the tactics board! So funny, he can’t help himself. Chubby Brown eat your pies out!
July 20, 2006 at 8:57 am
haha his blog is really a good laugh.
July 20, 2006 at 9:32 am
The reason I used to log onto koptalk was the quality of the posting and general pearls of wisdom from the community in there – Dunk was just the bloke who ran it – he offered nothing to the debate. He had stumbled, quite unintentionally onto a winner – and repays these posters by banning them. Now there is just nothing.
July 20, 2006 at 10:07 am
This is what tom posted:
“Koptalk – a ten point manifesto for renewal.
Lets face it, for some time Koptalk has deteriorated. Immature posts,
excessive authoritarianism and a gold-fish bowl “us against them” mentality
are some of the reasons for this. As a long-time poster and lover of the
site, I’ve devised a series of action points that I think will re-knew KT
and in the process return it to its glory days. Effectively this requires
the site grows up, becomes more democratic, transparent and accountable to
its members:
i) Firstly and most importantly “Information wants to be free” ( Stewart
Brand at the first Hackers’ Conference, 1984). Drop the charge for
membership. Charging for information that is almost always available free on
the net elsewhere is iniquitous and brings the site into disrespect amongst
serious Liverpool fans. Aside from this, community sites exist through
content contribution by members. We are effectively being charged for
posting our own content. If fees are to be retained it should be on a
voluntary basis only. This is also fairer as it allows the low-waged or
unemployed to participate.
ii) The gold club used to be a very effective debating forum. Now it sucks.
Some alternatives, ditch fees (or make them voluntary as above). Gold club
membership should be conferred on the basis of quality of a members posts
and their standing in the community – not on the depth of their pockets. I
suggest that membership of the Gold club operates through a “recommendation” mechanism – via other members.
iii) Allow and encourage the links and sharing of information between
different Liverpool sites. The ban on content from other sites is daft. I go
to matches with people who post on other sites. Naturally we share gossip.
Are we to be banned from discussing things we read on KT, YNWA, RAWK etc. in real life? Are we to be policed on the streets as well as on the net!
iv) Remove the block on copy and paste (see above).
v) Back-off from the heavy handed authoritarianism, the locking and removing
of serious posts and threads. This place is turning it Stalin’s Russia. Do
things in a clearer way, merge threads don’t lock them.
vi) Explain- when people are banned – why that is the case. Allow them to
defend themselves publicly in the KT forums and let the membership decide by
voting whether they should be shipped out or not. More democracy, less
Stalinism and KGB/Stasi behaviour please.
vii) Please block the soft-porn avatars. My kids and wife sometimes look at
this site, it’s offensive and degrading. This is 2006 not 1976.
viii) Please remove the adds for *bet-fair* etc. for the same reason. Income
can be generated through “cleaner” adds or pop-ups -even in the gold club.
ix) Amnesty for banned members, and outreach to other LFC sites. Maybe even
appoint some form of member panel, to help spread the word that Koptalk has
reformed.
x) And finally, lets be adult here, we are all aware of the controversy
surround Dunk, my final suggestion for the site is that Dunk takes a back
seat and isn’t so visible, operating more as a background administrator.
Surely that would be a relief for him, whoever he is, as he must be
suffering at the moment. Less of the made-up gossip, nom de plumes etc. A
bit more honesty all round. Try it Dunk – you might find it suits you.
What is the option if this can’t be achieved? Ideas? ”
it was well received by everyone who read it except 1.
July 20, 2006 at 10:53 am
His blog is ridiculous. You can just see his rage building while he is writing that ‘Oi You!’ disclaimer bit on the right!
And quoting 50 Cent?! Does he fancy himself as some kind of gangster now?
July 20, 2006 at 11:13 am
Showing injured children is quite possibly the lowest he has ever gone to detract criticism.
The man is a fool.
July 20, 2006 at 11:42 am
Totally agree Outsider. It’s absolutely vile
July 20, 2006 at 2:21 pm
“Hang on, missed his new toy; the tactics board!”
So that’s what he was doing for 16 hours – no wonder he’s knackered.
July 20, 2006 at 2:51 pm
tom im gutted u and fagan have been banned. i dont have ur email to offer my support
July 20, 2006 at 4:41 pm
Tom , Fagan i to am gutted you have gone i see no wrong in your post in fact it is spot on
and would have made a dead place better
July 20, 2006 at 6:57 pm
many thanks lads. see you on est1892?