After being shown as a liar, Oldham responds with more.

Our publication of an email from Ian Cotton relating to Duncan Oldham and Koptalk seems to have upset Duncan more than anything else we’ve so far done with this blog.

Now it seems some of our readers are sending the email around to those they know who still frequent Koptalk – we saw a post earlier where someone was asking about the email they’d just received. Oldham locked the thread and said “I send mine to the old bill.” Hope so – I think they’ll find it all very interesting.

We had a very angry visitor earlier using the comment facility on the previous post to get their view across. They seemed to be using much the same arguments in their comments to defend Dunk as Dunk uses on his forum to defend himself. The person leaving the comments has a very similar IP address to Dunk’s, but used a fake email address. They even used a username that a previous person had used in our comments.

You’ll find this angry person’s comments listed with a username of “Fake Will Robbo” – we added the “Fake” bit because we didn’t want any mix-up with the previous “Will Robbo”. We removed them for a short time, but they’re all back again now.
Here’s Duncan’s response to the email. Thanks to everyone who sent it on to me.

Ian Cotton Email
#1556208 – 18/07/06 09:27 PM

This email is doing the rounds. I just thought I should reply for your benefit:

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Dear Mr (removed)

Thank you for your email which has been passed to me for reply.

There is no agreement with Koptalk regarding transfers or press conferences. Any club comment on transfers will be published on the Official site and certainly not given to an unofficial media organisation.

For your information, Koptalk do not attend any of our press conferences, nor do they have any access to Rick Parry.

Also, we do not arrange any interviews for our players with The Sun Newspaper for obvious reasons so I have no idea what Koptalk are referring to. They certainly have not come to any arrangement with Mr Parry.

I hope this is of help.

Yours sincerely

Ian Cotton

Head of Press
Press Office

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I would like to point out to the loon who contacted the club that:

1) Nobody from KopTalk has ever claimed to have any agreement with the club regarding transfers or press conferences. Anybody who thinks such must be pretty stupid. However, KopTalk will have a representative at every major press conference this season, rather than the odd one here and there. We have had contacts at such conferences in the past and will continue to do so, only from this season we won’t miss any out. The club would not grant access directly to any fans website as they would class this as a rival to their own. However, there are ways and means as we know.

2) We do not have any specific access to Rick Parry and have never claimed to have. This makes him sound like a toy that they wheel out or something. Again, anyone who thinks we have a swipe card or something to Parry’s office needs sectioning.

3) We have previously said that Sun journalists can access players just like any other rag. This makes it sound like the club sit their on the blower to The Sun specifically working with that paper. The club cannot stop any player doing an exclusive with the rag.

4) I’ve never said that the site has come to any arrangements with Rick Parry for anything.

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I’ll be speaking to Ian Cotton about the bitter who emailed him and will be putting him straight with what has actually been said and what is actually taking place.

There really are some sad ***** out there

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Funny though, I must confess

The person who contacted the club wasn’t us, and unless I’m very much mistaken would have been asking perfectly reasonable questions. Just because it calls into question Dunk’s integrity does that qualify them as a “loon”? Not really. The only loon involved in this is the Loon from the Toon – Mr Duncan Oldham.

Anyway, seeing as the person who contacted the club may not be a member of the insider or gold clubs, or may even be a former member since locked out for not finding a three-year-old email I suppose at least he can read Dunk’s response here.

Anyway, let’s look in more detail at Duncan’s panic-stricken response tonight. He says – “1) Nobody from KopTalk has ever claimed to have any agreement with the club regarding transfers or press conferences. Anybody who thinks such must be pretty stupid.” Really? Must be pretty stupid? Here’s what you said yesterday afternoon, just after 1pm – “I’m unable to reveal too much at this time but as from the 2006-07 season we will have an official representative at every first team competitive fixture. This will include all European fixtures regardless of location.We will also have every major LFC press conference covered e.g. parading of new signings etc.”

Official representative? So you didn’t mean an official koptalk representative? Oh I see. The stupid one is you really Oldham, because you still think you can lie your way out of every hole you dig for yourself. Do you remember saying it now? You also said, “Until now we have had to rely on friends in the local and national media to drop us snippets of info in return for a few pints on a Saturday night but as from next season, we will be stepping up our coverage as you will see. I have spent all morning holding talks with the suits and have come to an arrangement that will benefit the site.” So who the hell were “the suits” then? Are you talking to the products in Burton’s shop window or something? Certainly contradicts what you said tonight – “The club would not grant access directly to any fans website as they would class this as a rival to their own. However, there are ways and means as we know.”

Another one where you admit you’ve lost it and are now ready to be taken into care under the Mental Health Act – “2) We do not have any specific access to Rick Parry and have never claimed to have. This makes him sound like a toy that they wheel out or something. Again, anyone who thinks we have a swipe card or something to Parry’s office needs sectioning.”

Take a look at this then -  back on July 8th we reported you saying this – “I’m meeting Rick Parry at Anfield soon. I have told him I will try and get in before the season starts. We’re actually negotiating for something. He wants something I have, I want something he can give me. As my comments are always lifted from here and posted around the web, I can’t say any more. What I can say is that it will be informal because I only put a suit on for the beak or funerals. It will be tea and biscuits although I’d prefer pie and peas. I’ll report back AFTER the meeting.”
And later on you said, “There’s no way he’s going to tell me anything. However, it’s what he can do for me that I want and I know I’ll get it (no homo!).”

Pretty much contradicts your point 2) and puts you into your nearest insitution by your very own standards.

Your next point – “3) We have previously said that Sun journalists can access players just like any other rag. This makes it sound like the club sit their on the blower to The Sun specifically working with that paper. The club cannot stop any player doing an exclusive with the rag.”  You obviously missed why this response was given, as the original email hadn’t been published. The response was given by Mr Cotton after he’d been asked about your claims to have a tape of Peter Crouch giving an exclusive interview to the Sun. You continually try to slur Liverpool players with your claims they give exclusives for the Sun. It’s a lie, as it was with the “Crouch tape” – but why do it anyway unless you hate LFC and its players?

Your next point - “4) I’ve never said that the site has come to any arrangements with Rick Parry for anything.” You are repeating what you said in point 2), we’ll not repeat what we said, see above.

As for this – “I’ll be speaking to Ian Cotton about the bitter who emailed him and will be putting him straight with what has actually been said and what is actually taking place.” – well we’ve also contacted Ian Cotton. We look forward to hearing what is said, but I doubt very much there’ll be any backing for Koptalk.

And your parting shot is a little weak really – “There really are some sad ***** out there Funny though, I must confess” – You’ve a lot of former victims Oldham, are they all “sad”, or just angry at your lies, cheating and slurring? And you aren’t laughing are you? It’s not funny is it? Not any more. People have worked you out and won’t be cheated again.